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Title: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: david25 on 12 November 2017, 12:29

“The Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive,” said Volkswagen’s small car line director, Ralf Kölling. “The Golf has performance more oriented to the highway, the Polo GTI is more agile for a really good drive. The shorter wheelbase than the Golf gives the Polo that extra feeling of agility."

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-volkswagen-polo-gti-more-agile-golf-gti-plus-exclusive-images


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlKppE4s_F4 (nice lights!)

2018 2.0
200PS (de-tuned EA888?)
320Nm 6sp DSG (I guess)
Manual available after launch

2016 1.8
192PS
250Nm 7sp DSG
320Nm 6sp man
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 November 2017, 14:41
The red accents on the interior are horrendous!
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: kalimon on 12 November 2017, 14:44
The red accents on the interior are horrendous!
They are someone's idea of a joke, surely :sick:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Mark V GTD on 12 November 2017, 15:00
Yikes thats truly awful!!!!

The German Youtube reviewer (thankfully) suggests other colours are available 'grey for example'....
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: SRGTD on 12 November 2017, 15:23
Yikes thats truly awful!!!!

The German Youtube reviewer (thankfully) suggests other colours are available 'grey for example'....

Yes, red or grey colour options for the dashboard, door trim and centre console inserts on the GTI model. The red does look pretty nasty IMO.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: BobbyT on 12 November 2017, 15:24
I like the P in the tail lights, much like when they put CC into them. Not keen on the red inside. I guess the Polo is aimed at a younger crowd
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Snooze on 12 November 2017, 17:48
That’s looks horrific!  :sick:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: SRGTD on 12 November 2017, 17:56
Pictures of the GTI dashboard with the grey inserts at the link below. Much more subtle and much nicer IMO;

https://paultan.org/2017/06/16/volkswagen-polo-gti-mk6-gets-200-ps-2-0-tsi-engine/der-neue-volkswagen-polo-gti-19/
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Davey-c on 12 November 2017, 18:22
Pictures of the GTI dashboard with the grey inserts at the link below. Much more subtle and much nicer IMO;

https://paultan.org/2017/06/16/volkswagen-polo-gti-mk6-gets-200-ps-2-0-tsi-engine/der-neue-volkswagen-polo-gti-19/

Plus 1 for the grey.👍🏻
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: kalimon on 12 November 2017, 18:33
I like the grey, in fact I like the car a lot :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Watts on 12 November 2017, 18:48
I like the Polo and I bet it is a really fun drive but I struggle with space in the Golf on holiday so couldn't go smaller. Plus I do prefer the look of 3 doors. They should do a coupe GTI Polo, that could look great.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Finglonga on 12 November 2017, 19:18
The interior is Chavtastic! :sick:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: scanesare on 12 November 2017, 20:08
Interior looks quite good actually, main lines and overall design with more trapezoids replacing rectangles are a welcome step forward and away from typical "boring VW" look which especially on a car like the Polo is needed. I don't get how most comments here are about the red (optional) dash as it's irrelevant anyway. There's always the grey option but the big news is that the next gen Polo GTI will be a much improved/better car. Bullet-proof 2.0 TSI (if it is the EA888 gen3 with IS20 we are practically talking 300bhp with only a remap - on such a light chassis, more focused suspension, bigger interior, bigger boot - do people realise it will have the same boot volume as an MK7/7.5 Golf R??

It can certainly steal sales from people that are not absolutely maxing out the usability of current Golf/Focus/Leon/Astra and most of them are anyway in bigger cars already. All in all a very tempting car I'd say.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: SRGTD on 12 November 2017, 20:22
Interior looks quite good actually, main lines and overall design with more trapezoids replacing rectangles are a welcome step forward and away from typical "boring VW" look which especially on a car like the Polo is needed. I don't get how most comments here are about the red (optional) dash as it's irrelevant anyway. There's always the grey option but the big news is that the next gen Polo GTI will be a much improved/better car. Bullet-proof 2.0 TSI (if it is the EA888 gen3 with IS20 we are practically talking 300bhp with only a remap - on such a light chassis, more focused suspension, bigger interior, bigger boot - do people realise it will have the same boot volume as an MK7/7.5 Golf R??

It can certainly steal sales from people that are not absolutely maxing out the usability of current Golf/Focus/Leon/Astra and most of them are anyway in bigger cars already. All in all a very tempting car I'd say.

It’s pretty much the same size as the mk4 Golf, so shows just how much larger both the Golf and the Polo have become over time.

There are to be two GTI trim levels; GTI and GTI+. The GTI+ will be the same power output as the non-plus model, but with a higher spec. I like it and it will certainly be a main contender when the time comes to change my current car in 2-3 years time - hopefully there’ll be some decent discounts to be had by them and if there are any initial teething problems, they’ll have been ironed out.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: fredgroves on 12 November 2017, 20:25
Quite nice... I actually quite like the red dash.

My problem with it is that a car that small is going to be horrible over distance. I guess "the golf is for the highway" is saying exactly that.

I suppose it will suit some here though
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 12 November 2017, 20:33
Interior looks quite good actually, main lines and overall design with more trapezoids replacing rectangles are a welcome step forward and away from typical "boring VW" look which especially on a car like the Polo is needed. I don't get how most comments here are about the red (optional) dash as it's irrelevant anyway. There's always the grey option but the big news is that the next gen Polo GTI will be a much improved/better car. Bullet-proof 2.0 TSI (if it is the EA888 gen3 with IS20 we are practically talking 300bhp with only a remap - on such a light chassis, more focused suspension, bigger interior, bigger boot - do people realise it will have the same boot volume as an MK7/7.5 Golf R??

It can certainly steal sales from people that are not absolutely maxing out the usability of current Golf/Focus/Leon/Astra and most of them are anyway in bigger cars already. All in all a very tempting car I'd say.

New Polo - 351 litres.
Mk 7 Golf 380 litres

Not quite the same. But close. The Golf boot is pretty small, I certainly wouldn't have anything smaller than this.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Watts on 12 November 2017, 20:40
Interior looks quite good actually, main lines and overall design with more trapezoids replacing rectangles are a welcome step forward and away from typical "boring VW" look which especially on a car like the Polo is needed. I don't get how most comments here are about the red (optional) dash as it's irrelevant anyway. There's always the grey option but the big news is that the next gen Polo GTI will be a much improved/better car. Bullet-proof 2.0 TSI (if it is the EA888 gen3 with IS20 we are practically talking 300bhp with only a remap - on such a light chassis, more focused suspension, bigger interior, bigger boot - do people realise it will have the same boot volume as an MK7/7.5 Golf R??

It can certainly steal sales from people that are not absolutely maxing out the usability of current Golf/Focus/Leon/Astra and most of them are anyway in bigger cars already. All in all a very tempting car I'd say.

New Polo - 351 litres.
Mk 7 Golf 380 litres

Not quite the same. But close. The Golf boot is pretty small, I certainly wouldn't have anything smaller than this.

In fairness the quote above was for the R which is 340L, 11 less than the Polo! But 380 in the GTI is as low as Ican go especially as I came from an Audi A4 which at times was completely stuffed.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: scanesare on 12 November 2017, 20:46
My problem with it is that a car that small is going to be horrible over distance. I guess "the golf is for the highway" is saying exactly that.

Have done a few highway trips on last gen Polo GTI, no comfort issues at all at and above speed limits (i was a passenger of course). Next gen can only be even more refined so hardly an issue I'd imagine.

do people realise it will have the same boot volume as an MK7/7.5 Golf R??

New Polo - 351 litres.
Mk 7 Golf 380 litres

Not quite the same. But close. The Golf boot is pretty small, I certainly wouldn't have anything smaller than this.

If you read again, i specifically mentioned Golf R, and that has 343 lt due to the Haldex, still many swear by its usability. Last gen Polo was 300, those extra 50lt are quite a jump that could make a small family's stuff from impossible to fit to "don't know how but we've managed". Despising most estates I've always had to play with volumes around those values so I can vouch it's a big improvement.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: BobbyT on 12 November 2017, 22:49
What's that strange handle in the centre of the car?  :undecided:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: CHB100 on 12 November 2017, 23:02
Fabulous smallish car, I would love it, having had several Clio Williams, Sports,. So chuckable and I imagine quicker than my R on the narrow road from Cirencester to Withington.
Wonder if I could persuade my other half to px her Mk7 GTI.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Splashalot on 13 November 2017, 00:45
What's that strange handle in the centre of the car?  :undecided:

I think it's some new high-tech device they got from the VW rally team.  Allows more agile dirt-road cornering and faultless reliability, apparently.   :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: BobbyT on 13 November 2017, 02:14
What's that strange handle in the centre of the car?  :undecided:

I think it's some new high-tech device they got from the VW rally team.  Allows more agile dirt-road cornering and faultless reliability, apparently.   :wink:

I see, sounds like the future. I like when new tech comes in  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 November 2017, 13:02
Fabulous smallish car, I would love it, having had several Clio Williams, Sports,. So chuckable and I imagine quicker than my R on the narrow road from Cirencester to Withington.
Wonder if I could persuade my other half to px her Mk7 GTI.

But you wouldn't swap your Mk7.5 R for one, only your missus' car??

I doubt there would be any driving situation that the new Polo would be quicker than the Golf R, except perhaps through a tight multi-storey car park.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: scanesare on 13 November 2017, 13:05
But you wouldn't swap your Mk7.5 R for one, only your missus' car??

I doubt there would be any driving situation that the new Polo would be quicker than the Golf R, except perhaps through a tight multi-storey car park.

BUT if it has the MK7 GTI engine indeed it surely would be quicker everywhere with just a software treatment except maybe the traffic lights. Very curious to confirm that...
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 November 2017, 13:31
But you wouldn't swap your Mk7.5 R for one, only your missus' car??

I doubt there would be any driving situation that the new Polo would be quicker than the Golf R, except perhaps through a tight multi-storey car park.

BUT if it has the MK7 GTI engine indeed it surely would be quicker everywhere with just a software treatment except maybe the traffic lights. Very curious to confirm that...

So a tuned Polo would be a quick than a standard R. That's a completely different statement and certainly different goal posts!
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: TurboTrev on 13 November 2017, 14:33
I like it, just a shame they're not doing it in 3 doors. :angry:
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: SRGTD on 13 November 2017, 15:20
I like it, just a shame they're not doing it in 3 doors. :angry:

I remember reading somewhere that the 3 door version of the outgoing model (Polo in general, not specifically the GTI model) accounted for a small proportion of total Polo sales, so this was no doubt a factor in VW’s decision not to build a 3 door version.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: Guzzle on 13 November 2017, 15:34
Correct, no 3 door version planned this time around. Sales of 3 door cars are in decline. There will be no 3 door SEAT Ibiza this time, Skoda Fabia has only ever been a 5 door, 3 door Audi A3 and the VW Scirocco have both been canned. Ford also no longer build a 3 door version of the Focus.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: fredgroves on 13 November 2017, 15:41
Didn't I read that the Mk8 Golf is only going to be 5 door too...
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: SRGTD on 13 November 2017, 16:01
Correct, no 3 door version planned this time around. Sales of 3 door cars are in decline. There will be no 3 door SEAT Ibiza this time, Skoda Fabia has only ever been a 5 door, 3 door Audi A3 and the VW Scirocco have both been canned. Ford also no longer build a 3 door version of the Focus.

I suppose with the costs of dieselgate facing VW and the need to fund development of ‘cleaner’ cars, VW need to make cost savings where they can, and streamlining the number of body variants of each model produced is one way to do this.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: wigit on 13 November 2017, 19:54
Having seen one in the flesh the red highlight is not the best on the dash, the press shots show a different colour

High on the list for a daily for me as its a bit smaller andI actually want some fun

The seats in it are much nicer than the mk7 as do feel sporty and more supportive

Plastics not up to Golf levels but in reality its a work horse
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: CHB100 on 13 November 2017, 23:15
Fabulous smallish car, I would love it, having had several Clio Williams, Sports,. So chuckable and I imagine quicker than my R on the narrow road from Cirencester to Withington.
Wonder if I could persuade my other half to px her Mk7 GTI.

But you wouldn't swap your Mk7.5 R for one, only your missus' car??

I doubt there would be any driving situation that the new Polo would be quicker than the Golf R, except perhaps through a tight multi-storey car park.

Exactly, so you know the road past Rendcomb airfield where Nick Mason keeps his stable of Ferrari's etc

The R would blow it away on the straights for sure but hairpins? You need to lift a rear wheel . Be fun though and probably a tad more satisfying.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: fredgroves on 14 November 2017, 08:59
If "satisfying" is your objective, surely a FWD hatch, even a warm one, isn't going to be it?

Isn't petrol head nirvana where the power comes from the rear?

I considered a GT86 last time around, except that its too small to fit large children and their friends in the back (yes, dads taxi keeps on running past the point at which they learn to drive!!) and the residuals and associated financials were eye watering.
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: wigit on 15 November 2017, 13:54
Would I swap a R for a Polo GTI , yes I would

In day to day life I just find for quick cars for commuting a complete chore and in reality only need something that is quick up to 60 for the twisties which does not attract too much attention, previous sh!ttys for the city before the R Wagon were a Fiat 500 TA and a Polo Blue GT, the estate remains my fav R

In all but snow I prefer driving the M2 over the R as contrary to what I thought give it a wet and twisty road the BMW is a faster point to point car, would I use it for the daily grind, no as its just a waste of fuel and tyre rubber

Issue with RWD is you do have to drive it and not be hamfisted like you can with the R, R feels like playstation but is never truly  a balanced car

I think we have all go a bit numbers and track mad when it come to cars, whilst I have a M2 CS deposit down I am resisting the urge to go Carrera T with only 370ps and a manual box and not many toys, why, because its going to be fun and nicely balanced which will probably mean if i do I go for a cheap rental





Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: david25 on 15 November 2017, 18:25
Anyone know what these double fog lights are?

(https://s3.paultan.org/image/2017/06/New-Volkswagen-Polo-GTI-Mk6-13-850x567.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Polo GTi is shorter, lighter and better to drive
Post by: SRGTD on 15 November 2017, 18:35
Anyone know what these double fog lights are?

Presumably one is a fog light, and the other is a cornering light.

Edit; as suspected, the larger of the two is the cornering light; see it in action at 1 min 55 sec in the video of the R Line at the link below;

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iNUAS7ZVBb8