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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Wide on 05 November 2017, 20:44
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Has tested a set of brake cooling from Stertman Motorsport. These are for most of MQB cars. Would try to make a test and see if this really works. (many racing cars and super sports cars have similar brake cooling)
And think it works.. :laugh:
https://youtu.be/q-7-yNSOiIY (https://youtu.be/q-7-yNSOiIY)
https://youtu.be/l1YoFMP4ruI (https://youtu.be/l1YoFMP4ruI)
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If anyone doubts about Stertman knowledge, they have just built their new Demo car. :drool:
A Mk7 CS that seems to be the world's fastest 100-200km/ CS , 6,79sek!! :whistle:
https://www.facebook.com/stertmanmotorsport/posts/1633481376715635 (https://www.facebook.com/stertmanmotorsport/posts/1633481376715635)
and they are responsible for tuning most of Jon Olsson's cars .. :whistle:
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Are those really just plastic with inbuilt cable tie style fasteners?
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Are those really just plastic with inbuilt cable tie style fasteners?
The Duct has "clips" that hold it on place on the wishbone!. It was hard to see in the Video.. :angry:
And the Zip is extra to keep in place. I think it is pretty solid mount. :smiley:
I can attach a better picture of this..
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Isn't there a chance that it gets knocked either off or around the wishbone? Particularly thinking of snow...
Is the duct metal or plastic?
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Is this for some sort of racing application? Can't see any reason why you would need to fit these for road use?
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Is this for some sort of racing application? Can't see any reason why you would need to fit these for road use?
We had a big long discussion about this somewhere on here the other day... ;-)
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=282463.0
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Is this for some sort of racing application? Can't see any reason why you would need to fit these for road use?
We had a big long discussion about this somewhere on here the other day... ;-)
Yeah, did see most of it. Still don't know really know why you would need these for the road though.
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Is this for some sort of racing application? Can't see any reason why you would need to fit these for road use?
We had a big long discussion about this somewhere on here the other day... ;-)
Yeah, did see most of it. Still don't know really know why you would need these for the road though.
Porsche has had a similar solution for 25 years, and these cars go well 99% on the street. and they can build cars capable of being battered. Their brakes are known to "never" fade ..
https://teamspeed.com/forums/991-997-996/76829-ecs-tuning-brake-duct-upgrade-kits.html (https://teamspeed.com/forums/991-997-996/76829-ecs-tuning-brake-duct-upgrade-kits.html)
So why not have the best brakes in hard driving?!, Even on the street :wink:
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If you can suffer from brake fade on the road then you probably need a speed awareness course and not better brakes ;-)
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If you can suffer from brake fade on the road then you probably need a speed awareness course and not better brakes ;-)
Lol maybe.. :grin:
But are not the brakes the first to upgrade?!.
To tune the engine and put on a better chassis you don´t need if you just drive on the streets?!.
1 .Brakes
2 Tires and wheels
3. Chassi
4. Engine
Wrong?! :wink:
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I think the main point here is - fast road driving is about making progress with a focus on smoothness, reading the road ahead and being safe. Same in a car as on a motorbike. On a typical B road here in the UK, a fast drive for me in the Peaks involves very little hard braking at all, so brake fade through extreme heat is completely unlikely. Hard and late braking is something racing drivers do as they are either on the throttle or in the brakes, no in-between. So this modification is completely pointless for fast road driving, it may however be appropriate for someone who tracks their car every weekend and has upgraded their brakes and still finds they get brake fade. To put simply, you can't drive hard enough on the public road for brake fade to be an issue in the GTI and if you do, you will soon end up either banned, crashing or dead.
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I think the main point here is - fast road driving is about making progress with a focus on smoothness, reading the road ahead and being safe. Same in a car as on a motorbike. On a typical B road here in the UK, a fast drive for me in the Peaks involves very little hard braking at all, so brake fade through extreme heat is completely unlikely. Hard and late braking is something racing drivers do as they are either on the throttle or in the brakes, no in-between. So this modification is completely pointless for fast road driving, it may however be appropriate for someone who tracks their car every weekend and has upgraded their brakes and still finds they get brake fade. To put simply, you can't drive hard enough on the public road for brake fade to be an issue in the GTI and if you do, you will soon end up either banned, crashing or dead.
But in that case you don´t need the PP brakes?!. I think one of the good think about the GTI is the handling and the brakes. The power in the GTI you get from a ordinary Volvo today.. :smiley:
And not drive on the track with a GTI?!.. Why buy a GTI?! :wink:
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Did I just bang my head against a brick wall with my last post?!
The GTI is a road car, that's why I drive one. Because I use it to get to work, use it go see clients and use it at weekends for driving around. On the road. If I wanted a car to take on the track, I very much doubt it would be a GTI :smiley:
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Did I just bang my head against a brick wall with my last post?!
The GTI is a road car, that's why I drive one. Because I use it to get to work, use it go see clients and use it at weekends for driving around. On the road. If I wanted a car to take on the track, I very much doubt it would be a GTI :smiley:
No, you're underestimating GTIn, I was amazed that you hung up much more expensive and on paper faster cars :). Then I'm going to run with Semi Slicks next time is another story :)
My friend have a 991 Carrera 4 and that is a litte bit better on track :wink:. But on the Highway it feels like a Golf.. :smiley:
I also have a towbar on my, so this is a complete family car :grin: :grin:
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I found a nice Video, that have the same result as mine!. Think this will save brake pads a lot! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=88&v=WEhu1Oae8To (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=88&v=WEhu1Oae8To)
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Reading this months VW driver mag the CSS brakes don't like light track work, one owner (& first visits to track) had minor warping & was quoted £1,300 for new discs & pads.....
So got the discs pro lathe cut insitu & new better pads...
HOWEVER it turns out what happened is common on top end Audis also.....the discs have directional internal vanes....but the same disc blank is used for both sides, so one side the vanes rotate in the correct way, the other side they do not!! So on this side the discs get way hotter......& problems...
Very clever VW..NOT....
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Reading this months VW driver mag the CSS brakes don't like light track work, one owner (& first visits to track) had minor warping & was quoted £1,300 for new discs & pads.....
So got the discs pro lathe cut insitu & new better pads...
HOWEVER it turns out what happened is common on top end Audis also.....the discs have directional internal vanes....but the same disc blank is used for both sides, so one side the vanes rotate in the correct way, the other side they do not!! So on this side the discs get way hotter......& problems...
Very clever VW..NOT....
That didn´t sound so good.. :sad:. My worked on a pretty fast track, for probably 30 laps witout any isues. ( 3 push laps, one cooling..)
I think this option is a no brainer then!, if you can save your brakes. This is the cheapest option...
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I'll add more info..
Owner or Clubsort S (CSS) had 4500miles road use & one track evening at Bedford autodrome...& did cooling down lap.
Warped front discs was the result
The UK drivers side (your passenger side) appears to be the one with the internal vanes rotating the wrong way as they scoop the air from the outer edge & try force it throught the disc to the hub which is the wrong way...
My ATE 312mm discs have internal vanes (like most vented discs), but NOT directional....so I won't have this problem..
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He is testing brake cooling plastic wind deflectors in November in Sweden, I'd say brakes won't really need cooling this time of year (let alone the rest of the year for road use).
I have never come into a situation on the road where brake fade would be an issue and I do sometimes like to trash it on empty B roads.... or the German motorway.
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He is testing brake cooling plastic wind deflectors in November in Sweden, I'd say brakes won't really need cooling this time of year (let alone the rest of the year for road use).
I have never come into a situation on the road where brake fade would be an issue and I do sometimes like to trash it on empty B roads.... or the German motorway.
:grin: :grin:Good point. But i am testing for next summer events, the wether was not easy to change.. :wink:
You don´t need ventilated brakes in the front if you just drive on the street :wink:
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You don´t need ventilated brakes in the front if you just drive on the street :wink:
All the discs on your car are vented as you have the PP ...
The CCS has the same size discs as your car just the fronts are in a lighter two piece version with drilled holes.
The internal vents are directional on the CCS disc, but both the left & right disc use the same blank, so the direction of rotation on one side is wrong..this is what causes the extra heat build up & causes the discs to warp as per the article in this months VW driver mag.
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You don´t need ventilated brakes in the front if you just drive on the street :wink:
All the discs on your car are vented as you have the PP ...
The CCS has the same size discs as your car just the fronts are in a lighter two piece version with drilled holes.
The internal vents are directional on the CCS disc, but both the left & right disc use the same blank, so the direction of rotation on one side is wrong..this is what causes the extra heat build up & causes the discs to warp as per the article in this months VW driver mag.
I know, i was only kidding.. :wink:
But it sounds realy strange that the CCS disc is not proper tested at VW.. :sad:
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The same problem (warping of one disc due to "asymmetric" directional vanes on both discs) is present on the Brembo brakes of Performance Pack of the Leon Cupra, several reports on SEAT forums. Sounds almost incredible to have something so obvious leave the design office of Audi, SEAT, and now VW... It's so basic that you gotta wonder about couple of things...
On another note, just one track event and discs got warped? I'm smelling too much enthusiasm ("gotta live up to the Nurburgring record story" and all... :tongue:) Oh and £1300 for CSS brakes and pads seriously? Those 4 items shouldn't be costing more than 500 eur altogether iirc so I guess there's a pretty big (inflated) labour cost included in that quote.
2 track days with the CS so far, one of them on a really small, tight and quite brutal track for brakes without any issues...
PS. I'll second what was mentioned earlier in this thread though that you shouldn't(mustn't) need ducts for road use or you must be doing something really (like really really) wrong. Having them on for extra piece of mind if doing regular track days or just for showing off to friends in the pub is fine but anyone actually claiming he suffered brake fade, with the PP brakes, on a public road, unless doing repeated 100-0km/h tests OR driving down a very steep empty hill, needs to have his licence revoked...
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The same problem (warping of one disc due to "asymmetric" directional vanes on both discs) is present on the Brembo brakes of Performance Pack of the Leon Cupra, several reports on SEAT forums. Sounds almost incredible to have something so obvious leave the design office of Audi, SEAT, and now VW... It's so basic that you gotta wonder about couple of things...
On another note, just one track event and discs got warped? I'm smelling too much enthusiasm ("gotta live up to the Nurburgring record story" and all... :tongue:) Oh and £1300 for CSS brakes and pads seriously? Those 4 items shouldn't be costing more than 500 eur altogether iirc so I guess there's a pretty big (inflated) labour cost included in that quote.
2 track days with the CS so far, one of them on a really small, tight and quite brutal track for brakes without any issues...
PS. I'll second what was mentioned earlier in this thread though that you shouldn't(mustn't) need ducts for road use or you must be doing something really (like really really) wrong. Having them on for extra piece of mind if doing regular track days or just for showing off to friends in the pub is fine but anyone actually claiming he suffered brake fade, with the PP brakes, on a public road, unless doing repeated 100-0km/h tests OR driving down a very steep empty hill, needs to have his licence revoked...
You have some brake cooling from start on the GTI, why not improve that and save the Brakes for no money at all?.
It is the heat that destroy the brakes, so think you will have an extra 1000miles on the pads with extra cooling for normal GTI driving on the street.. :wink: :smiley:
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The same problem (warping of one disc due to "asymmetric" directional vanes on both discs) is present on the Brembo brakes of Performance Pack of the Leon Cupra, several reports on SEAT forums. Sounds almost incredible to have something so obvious leave the design office of Audi, SEAT, and now VW... It's so basic that you gotta wonder about couple of things...
On another note, just one track event and discs got warped? I'm smelling too much enthusiasm ("gotta live up to the Nurburgring record story" and all... :tongue:) Oh and £1300 for CSS brakes and pads seriously? Those 4 items shouldn't be costing more than 500 eur altogether iirc so I guess there's a pretty big (inflated) labour cost included in that quote.
2 track days with the CS so far, one of them on a really small, tight and quite brutal track for brakes without any issues...
PS. I'll second what was mentioned earlier in this thread though that you shouldn't(mustn't) need ducts for road use or you must be doing something really (like really really) wrong. Having them on for extra piece of mind if doing regular track days or just for showing off to friends in the pub is fine but anyone actually claiming he suffered brake fade, with the PP brakes, on a public road, unless doing repeated 100-0km/h tests OR driving down a very steep empty hill, needs to have his licence revoked...
Couple of points the article in VW Driver mag I think the owner is a writer for the mag as refered to previous "instalments". Also the race track was Bedford, & it was £1320 for All new discs & pads inc fitting front & rear...
VAG like many manufactures will do things down to the cheapest price, it is cheaper to use the same blank....why they did not use radial (non directional) vanes I have no idea..
Also of note:- the side which has the wrong rotation is the side that the FXD "Haldex unit" is on..
Final point, you can cook most brakes at legal speeds in UK & driving sensibly, you just need the right roads...& I live near the best UK drivers roads & one is about 2hrs end to end .....& has three steep descents/ascents....very easy to cook brakes & with mates & ski gear in even easier...
I have the light 1.4lt so way less nose weight than GTI & R...& the standard 288mm discs I cooked & have total loss of braking after the last descent of the drive....upgraded to 312mm ATE discs & pads & Audi TT cooling ducts & no problems...however if I had the 340mm setup on a GTI/R with the heavier engine I think I could still cook that set up....at least the piston seals...
The 340mm set up with a big cast iron sliding fist caliper & one piston is a joke....a 312mm 4 pot brembo is way better at heat disipation & braking & way lighter (reduced unsprung weight)...& the Seat Cupra R used to have this fiited years ago & it was an easy aftermarket upgrade for the Skoda Fabia VRS..
VW just upselling rubbish to get the most profit...
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The same problem (warping of one disc due to "asymmetric" directional vanes on both discs) is present on the Brembo brakes of Performance Pack of the Leon Cupra, several reports on SEAT forums. Sounds almost incredible to have something so obvious leave the design office of Audi, SEAT, and now VW... It's so basic that you gotta wonder about couple of things...
On another note, just one track event and discs got warped? I'm smelling too much enthusiasm ("gotta live up to the Nurburgring record story" and all... :tongue:) Oh and £1300 for CSS brakes and pads seriously? Those 4 items shouldn't be costing more than 500 eur altogether iirc so I guess there's a pretty big (inflated) labour cost included in that quote.
2 track days with the CS so far, one of them on a really small, tight and quite brutal track for brakes without any issues...
PS. I'll second what was mentioned earlier in this thread though that you shouldn't(mustn't) need ducts for road use or you must be doing something really (like really really) wrong. Having them on for extra piece of mind if doing regular track days or just for showing off to friends in the pub is fine but anyone actually claiming he suffered brake fade, with the PP brakes, on a public road, unless doing repeated 100-0km/h tests OR driving down a very steep empty hill, needs to have his licence revoked...
Couple of points the article in VW Driver mag I think the owner is a writer for the mag as refered to previous "instalments". Also the race track was Bedford, & it was £1320 for All new discs & pads inc fitting front & rear...
VAG like many manufactures will do things down to the cheapest price, it is cheaper to use the same blank....why they did not use radial (non directional) vanes I have no idea..
Also of note:- the side which has the wrong rotation is the side that the FXD "Haldex unit" is on..
Final point, you can cook most brakes at legal speeds in UK & driving sensibly, you just need the right roads...& I live near the best UK drivers roads & one is about 2hrs end to end .....& has three steep descents/ascents....very easy to cook brakes & with mates & ski gear in even easier...
I have the light 1.4lt so way less nose weight than GTI & R...& the standard 288mm discs I cooked & have total loss of braking after the last descent of the drive....upgraded to 312mm ATE discs & pads & Audi TT cooling ducts & no problems...however if I had the 340mm setup on a GTI/R with the heavier engine I think I could still cook that set up....at least the piston seals...
The 340mm set up with a big cast iron sliding fist caliper & one piston is a joke....a 312mm 4 pot brembo is way better at heat disipation & braking & way lighter (reduced unsprung weight)...& the Seat Cupra R used to have this fiited years ago & it was an easy aftermarket upgrade for the Skoda Fabia VRS..
VW just upselling rubbish to get the most profit...
Several questions here: Why did he have to change all 4 disks and pads? Do the rears have directional vented as well? Even more, if his style is so brutal as to destroy them so easily, why the hell would he waste another £1320 on under-perfoming items and not invest in a better setup? Doesn't make any sense.
I know UK has some really great drivers roads (I read about them and stare at them with envy at every EVO issue) but I doubt you can cook them so easy while driving "sensibly" at the same time. I can only speak for myself and well, 2 track days and 15,000km in and the brakes are fine. Several owners confirming they're more than up to the job on the road also so I gotta take the cooking proneness with a pinch of salt. I can appreciate everybody's style is different but a very good point was made a few posts back regarding driving fast, especially on a public road and it's nothing to do with braking hard but with rather keeping pace at an optimal level. Towing or transporting loads could be different.
Even if not the best out there, the 340mm setup hasn't let me down once yet on road and track and despite my pre-ownership temptations to invest in a better setup once I got the car, I have almost completely given up on the idea now as it just doesn't feel necessary.
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You have some brake cooling from start on the GTI, why not improve that and save the Brakes for no money at all?.
It is the heat that destroy the brakes, so think you will have an extra 1000miles on the pads with extra cooling for normal GTI driving on the street.. :wink: :smiley:
I am only saying I haven't experienced brake fade on neither the track or the road yet so I just don't see it as an issue especially from a braking performance and consistency point. Regarding the longevity of the brake pads, again I feel there should not be an observable difference since you don't usually go at or beyond the optimal temperature range on typical public road driving, where the extra cooling would have the chance to provide some benefit. And it shouldn't make any difference on everyday braking at all. Does that 1000miles value come from some test or review?
In the end, I guess for the price they cost it won't hurt having them on and you can probably worry less on a track but that's different than to say I actually need them because the stock setup has let me down or that I will actually save the pads from wearing out.
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Several questions here: Why did he have to change all 4 disks and pads? Do the rears have directional vented as well? Even more, if his style is so brutal as to destroy them so easily, why the hell would he waste another £1320 on under-perfoming items and not invest in a better setup? Doesn't make any sense.
He went to the dealers & was quoted the £1320 to solve the brake juddering he had after the track session.....
he declined the offer & went to a specialist brake centre & got the existing warped discs pro lathe cut insitu on the car hubs....& just bought & fitted different pads (EBC yellow stuff).....discs were well within min thickness tolerance after cut
I'll leave the argument of driving style & cooking brakes, just that most people I know who really drive the cars on these roads always upgrade the brakes....2hrs of solid driving on these roads is worse than a track event...twisty as hell & up & down...go look at google for the A939 near bridge of brown, or c o c k bridge....or the ferness bridge.....or the lecht...
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I'll leave the argument of driving style & cooking brakes, just that most people I know who really drive the cars on these roads always upgrade the brakes....2hrs of solid driving on these roads is worse than a track event...twisty as hell & up & down...go look at google for the A939 near bridge of brown, or c o c k bridge....or the ferness bridge.....or the lecht...
Totally agree with you on this one, in reality on track when its your own car lift and coast as prolonged B roads just keep the temps up there
I had some tuition in a M4 at Oulton and it was all data logged and then pointed out lift and coast, aftercare was braking later and 10mph quicker on each straight and even the APs were making their voice know, would I have driven my car that hard, no
My main beef is the callipers as just no real pedal feel on VWs
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go look at google for the A939 near bridge of brown, or c o c k bridge....or the ferness bridge.....or the lecht...
I did and what a stunning looking area, you are very lucky to be living near there!
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Isn´t this want every car nut want?!?! :drool:.. But i do the little cheaper way :wink:
But you can´t have to big och to good brakes! :smiley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDGwDXWqpt0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDGwDXWqpt0)
(http://www.modbargains.com/images/Products/AP%20Racing/Golf%20GTI-R/AP-Racing-Red-BBK-2-2.jpg)
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Isn´t this want every car nut want?!?! :drool:.. But i do the little cheaper way :wink:
(http://www.modbargains.com/images/Products/AP%20Racing/Golf%20GTI-R/AP-Racing-Red-BBK-2-2.jpg)
Of-course not, who wants bronze wheels seriously... Glossy black all the way :tongue:
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Isn´t this want every car nut want?!?! :drool:.. But i do the little cheaper way :wink:
(http://www.modbargains.com/images/Products/AP%20Racing/Golf%20GTI-R/AP-Racing-Red-BBK-2-2.jpg)
Of-course not, who wants bronze wheels seriously... Glossy black all the way :tongue:
I love those bronze wheels! :cool:
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Isn´t this want every car nut want?!?! :drool:.. But i do the little cheaper way :wink:
(http://www.modbargains.com/images/Products/AP%20Racing/Golf%20GTI-R/AP-Racing-Red-BBK-2-2.jpg)
Of-course not, who wants bronze wheels seriously... Glossy black all the way :tongue:
:grin: :grin: No i talk brakes :grin:. But i love the bronze.. :whistle:
(http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/_1473324931.jpg)
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Isn´t this want every car nut want?!?! :drool:.. But i do the little cheaper way :wink:
(http://www.modbargains.com/images/Products/AP%20Racing/Golf%20GTI-R/AP-Racing-Red-BBK-2-2.jpg)
Of-course not, who wants bronze wheels seriously... Glossy black all the way :tongue:
I love those bronze wheels! :cool:
Me too, was thinking how good they look against the TR :kiss: :laugh:
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I love those bronze wheels! :cool:
Me too, was thinking how good they look against the TR :kiss: :laugh:
@Watts; They’d look really good on your TR GTI :grin:. One to add to the GTI shopping list? :whistle:
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I love those bronze wheels! :cool:
Me too, was thinking how good they look against the TR :kiss: :laugh:
@Watts; They’d look really good on your TR GTI :grin:. One to add to the GTI shopping list? :whistle:
I was eyeing up the matt bronze Revo wheels sandtrap is selling in the classifieds but too many other demands at the moment. And I do love the Santiagos so I really shouldn't...
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I love those bronze wheels! :cool:
Me too, was thinking how good they look against the TR :kiss: :laugh:
@Watts; They’d look really good on your TR GTI :grin:. One to add to the GTI shopping list? :whistle:
I was eyeing up the matt bronze Revo wheels sandtrap is selling in the classifieds but too many other demands at the moment. And I do love the Santiagos so I really shouldn't...
I've been eyeing them up too. Anyone want a brand new set of GTD wheels with new PS4 tyres? :whistle:
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I love those bronze wheels! :cool:
Me too, was thinking how good they look against the TR :kiss: :laugh:
@Watts; They’d look really good on your TR GTI :grin:. One to add to the GTI shopping list? :whistle:
I was eyeing up the matt bronze Revo wheels sandtrap is selling in the classifieds but too many other demands at the moment. And I do love the Santiagos so I really shouldn't...
I've been eyeing them up too. Anyone want a brand new set of GTD wheels with new PS4 tyres? :whistle:
They would look good against the blue....
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This is what happens if you have to bad brake cooling.. :whistle: :grin: :grin:
https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk (https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk)
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This is what happens if you have to bad brake cooling.. :whistle: :grin: :grin:
https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk (https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk)
The genuine (from dealers) VW centre caps I got for my TD wheels would fit yours...& look similar.....& there is no way they would come out that easy...the "tangs" are way stronger ..those are china knock offs from the look of it as the VW ones are always very strong...there are at least 3 different genuine VW types which fit the MK7 alloys...& other aftermarkets with the same CB..
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This is what happens if you have to bad brake cooling.. :whistle: :grin: :grin:
https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk (https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk)
No, that is what happens if you drive on track and don't cool your brakes down properly. It's like people going on track and then coming into the parking area and holding the car with their foot on the brake, I keep thinking say hello to new discs.
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This is what happens if you have to bad brake cooling.. :whistle: :grin: :grin:
https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk (https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk)
The genuine (from dealers) VW centre caps I got for my TD wheels would fit yours...& look similar.....& there is no way they would come out that easy...the "tangs" are way stronger ..those are china knock offs from the look of it as the VW ones are always very strong...there are at least 3 different genuine VW types which fit the MK7 alloys...& other aftermarkets with the same CB..
This is from a German dealer, but mayby chines :sad:. But now i got better one on the car.. :grin:. And next trackday i will have other wheels.. :grin: :smiley:
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This is what happens if you have to bad brake cooling.. :whistle: :grin: :grin:
https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk (https://youtu.be/eghevyO40Rk)
No, that is what happens if you drive on track and don't cool your brakes down properly. It's like people going on track and then coming into the parking area and holding the car with their foot on the brake, I keep thinking say hello to new discs.
No i don´t think so. I did 4 push lap, and then did at least one cooling lap when it was black flag.... :smiley:
So think the Centercap was not the best quality! :grin:
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One better video and shorter , when i did the other wheel this weekend. :whistle:
Have only used on Brake duct this winter, to see if i will have som problem with it.
But No... :laugh:
https://youtu.be/l1YoFMP4ruI (https://youtu.be/l1YoFMP4ruI)
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Please be aware that these items are NOT a straight forward easy 100% fit!!
They were designed for the Audi RS3 FL (2017->) which has 375mm discs with 8 piston monoblock callipers & aluminium wishbones.
We have smaller discs & pressed steel wishbones, & therefore these items have to be modified to properly fit our wishbones..then a degree of modification is required to stop interference between the calliper & duct on full steering lock & full suspension droop (wheels in air).
I have GTI/GTD 312mm discs & VW factory sports suspension (-15mm) & these items interfered with wheels on ground at 3/4 to full lock each side....2/3 locks wheels in air. If you have differnt brakes & suspension you will have to modify more or less for the calliper to duct interferrence issue...
I am more concerned because if you have an inspection etc. (in UK we have MOT each year for cars over 3yrs old) & they see a cable tied part to the wishbones (alarm bells may ring) with the car in the air on a two post lift (so wheels at full drop), & that the brake callipers hit the this duct which stops you from getting full steering lock....FAIL
Also ditch the thin 7.6mm wide cable ties supplied & use 9mm wide ones....looks way more OEM...
I did a "how" to guide here:-
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41323
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Please be aware that these items are NOT a straight forward easy 100% fit!!
They were designed for the Audi RS3 FL (2017->) which has 375mm discs with 8 piston monoblock callipers & aluminium wishbones.
We have smaller discs & pressed steel wishbones, & therefore these items have to be modified to properly fit our wishbones..then a degree of modification is required to stop interference between the calliper & duct on full steering lock & full suspension droop (wheels in air).
I have GTI/GTD 312mm discs & VW factory sports suspension (-15mm) & these items interfered with wheels on ground at 3/4 to full lock each side....2/3 locks wheels in air. If you have differnt brakes & suspension you will have to modify more or less for the calliper to duct interferrence issue...
I am more concerned because if you have an inspection etc. (in UK we have MOT each year for cars over 3yrs old) & they see a cable tied part to the wishbones (alarm bells may ring) with the car in the air on a two post lift (so wheels at full drop), & that the brake callipers hit the this duct which stops you from getting full steering lock....FAIL
Also ditch the thin 7.6mm wide cable ties supplied & use 9mm wide ones....looks way more OEM...
I did a "how" to guide here:-
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41323
Realy nice guide! :smiley:
I have tried on one side 6 month now on ruff winter roads.. Maybe i have been lucky?!.. Or that i have the 340mm brakes in front?..
But your mod is very easy to do! :smiley:, i have plan to change the stripes like yours, then i can cut these aswell! :wink: