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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Pretzel on 21 October 2017, 16:33

Title: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Pretzel on 21 October 2017, 16:33
I had an appointment to view a GTi this morning which was cancelled at short notice because the car had the interior panels removed to check the wiring. I've had a quick look at the 142 point checklist and don't really see any need to remove trim panels.

My only thought is that there has been some aftermarket modification to the car or possibly a Tracker.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: wantmygti on 21 October 2017, 16:40
Is it at a VW dealership?
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Watts on 21 October 2017, 16:42
Sounds very unlikely. I'd want to know exactly what the problem was before going further. Could be anything.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Pretzel on 21 October 2017, 17:15
Is it at a VW dealership?

Yes - a large VW dealership
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Pretzel on 21 October 2017, 17:17
Sounds very unlikely. I'd want to know exactly what the problem was before going further. Could be anything.

Exactly hence my post, trying to decide if I walk away before even seeing the car,
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Watts on 21 October 2017, 17:25
Sounds very unlikely. I'd want to know exactly what the problem was before going further. Could be anything.

Exactly hence my post, trying to decide if I walk away before even seeing the car,

Still worth going to look if it's what you're after but I'd be wanting a decent explanation.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: SRGTD on 21 October 2017, 17:26
I had an appointment to view a GTi this morning which was cancelled at short notice because the car had the interior panels removed to check the wiring. I've had a quick look at the 142 point checklist and don't really see any need to remove trim panels.

My only thought is that there has been some aftermarket modification to the car or possibly a Tracker.

Any ideas?

Not necessarily; it could be that an electrical problem was discovered when the 142 point check was being carried out, and it was necessary to remove the panels to gain access to the wiring.

Why not ask the dealer why it was necessary to check the wiring behind the trim panels?

Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: wantmygti on 21 October 2017, 18:30
I would suspect they are addressing a fault/defect of some sort.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Finglonga on 21 October 2017, 19:06
Trim panel could mean the engine tray as that needs removing to even see the bottom of the engine.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Vwjap on 21 October 2017, 19:12
Trim panel could mean the engine tray as that needs removing to even see the bottom of the engine.
he said interior panel
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Gaz W on 21 October 2017, 19:18
Nothing to be concerned about.

The checks are comprehensive and you will find that cars generally mechanically at least are prepared to a high standard. Most likely something was identified which they are rectifying as part of the multi point check.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Exonian on 22 October 2017, 14:58
The 142 point check in reality probably involves the apprentice wandering quickly around the car with a clipboard to spot if anything dreadful is wrong with the car, then a diagnostic scan for fault codes.
There was probably something flagged up with the electronics so they had to go digging, or possibly just an electrical issue like a mirror not folding properly or a window not opening or closing as it should, central locking issue, ambience lighting issue...

There's no way a dealership will spend a penny more than they have to when they sell a car so they'll rectify any serious faults flagged but won't go digging for any, and certainly none that won't be covered by VW UK as a warranty claim.
The onus will be on the owner to come back and moan if there's something wrong, then the sales team will have to argue their case with the workshop team as to who's paying for the time and parts cost.
The 142 point check is just a safety and general appearance check to make sure the car is roadworthy and fairly presentable.

Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: JoeGTI on 22 October 2017, 16:35
Yeah. There is no way on earth the dealers are going to be ripping out interior panels unless they really really have to. So I’d therefore be asking exactly why before committing to that car.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Pretzel on 27 October 2017, 23:08
Quick update to finish the thread.

Seven days after cancelling my viewing while I was on my way to the dealership, they finally phoned back. I asked them to elaborate as to why the car was no longer available for viewing.

Apparently part of the 142 point check involves removing and inspecting all of the light units for blown LED's which means removing the rear trim to gain access!


Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: JoeGTI on 27 October 2017, 23:37
I smell bull.
Ripping the interior out to check for possible (and very unlikely) blown bulbs? On every used car? No chance.
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: barrym381 on 28 October 2017, 00:13
Quick update to finish the thread.

Seven days after cancelling my viewing while I was on my way to the dealership, they finally phoned back. I asked them to elaborate as to why the car was no longer available for viewing.

Apparently part of the 142 point check involves removing and inspecting all of the light units for blown LED's which means removing the rear trim to gain access!

Stay away from that dealer  :grin:
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: Gulfstream11 on 28 October 2017, 07:10
Just had my 15k service at the dealers. I complained about a rattle from the glovebox area. The service guy found the problem and said that the trim has been removed and replaced under and to the right of the glovebox and for £90 can fix it. (Apparently rattles only covered for 1 year under warranty). I asked why and he said probably routine inspection. Is this what you guys mean by 142 point check?
Title: Re: Are trim panels removed for the 142 point check
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 28 October 2017, 12:34
Quick update to finish the thread.

Seven days after cancelling my viewing while I was on my way to the dealership, they finally phoned back. I asked them to elaborate as to why the car was no longer available for viewing.

Apparently part of the 142 point check involves removing and inspecting all of the light units for blown LED's which means removing the rear trim to gain access!

Surely the best way to check for blown led's would be to look at each light from the outside?

What a crock of sh!t.