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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jeni_R_ on 19 October 2017, 16:11
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So its been a whole month since i got my pal and shes great i love her, the few niggles i had are due to be dealt with on Nov 1st as taking her into VW Specialist Cars in Dunfermline to have the creak from the rear when reversing looked into im not a little concerned about something which may be nothing
Accelerating individual mode so engine set to 'normal' why oh why does she struggle in 1st and 2nd ?? almost hesitant to actually push her ar*e up the slip road ? am i doing something wrong or is this just the GTD and how she plays if your not in sport ? someone did say that sport is good for 1-3rd but lags 4-6th and normal mode is slow for 1-3 but nippy in 4-6th is this correct is anyone else feeling this ? Smetimes feel like I m redlining when trying to overtake a lorry :rolleyes:
I am currently running a full tank in 'normal' mode and then next full tank will be in SPORT BABY !!!!!!! trying to work out my fuel economy in comparison to the mini which incidentally went away with no issues according to the guy at BCA whether its 3 years old or 7 doesnt matter they look over the car in the same manner and charge accordingly ...........so much so that he missed the gouge out of the rear wheel and the ding on the bonnet from a stone chip :grin:
Hope you are all well and have survived storm Ophelia i wanted to bring the car inside away from the nasty branches and leaves but DH was having none of it :cry: :grin:
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Difference between sport and normal is just a throttle pedal mapping... nothing else...
It is manual not DSG yeah?
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The guy that told you about the difference between normal and sport and 123rd and 456th is bullsh!ting you.
The more troubles you say you have with the car the more I think you bought a pup.
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The guy that told you about the difference between normal and sport and 123rd and 456th is bullsh!ting you.
The more troubles you say you have with the car the more I think you bought a pup.
Shes going in on the 1st so will get her checked top to bottom then my mini was mapped and had guts plua lighter so being told its hard to compare like for like
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Difference between sport and normal is just a throttle pedal mapping... nothing else...
It is manual not DSG yeah?
Hey yup shes a manual
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The guy that told you about the difference between normal and sport and 123rd and 456th is bullsh!ting you.
The more troubles you say you have with the car the more I think you bought a pup.
Shes going in on the 1st so will get her checked top to bottom then my mini was mapped and had guts plua lighter so being told its hard to compare like for like
The torque in a GTD would make it the opposite to the mini in that respect and would have absolutely no problem getting up even the steepest of hills.
Who told you this, was it someone in the place where you bought it?
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The guy that told you about the difference between normal and sport and 123rd and 456th is bullsh!ting you.
The more troubles you say you have with the car the more I think you bought a pup.
Shes going in on the 1st so will get her checked top to bottom then my mini was mapped and had guts plua lighter so being told its hard to compare like for like
The torque in a GTD would make it the opposite to the mini in that respect and would have absolutely no problem getting up even the steepest of hills.
Who told you this, was it someone in the place where you bought it?
No problems getting up hills i think im just nervous to floor it i dont think im explaining myself right 1st and 2nd are very short so when i pull away for example into traffic if i floor it she revs and im shifting in2 2nd very quick then in2 3rd as the first 2 gears are short thats what i mean does that make more sense ? It was on here i was told 123 and 456 it was about 1 and 2 being short in normal but longer in sport ?
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The wife had a mini and i have had a gtd mk7 and now a mk7 gti, i think its the throttle response or lack of it, from memory the mini felt like a go kart and was very responsive but the gtd/gti does have a very relaxed accelerator pedal which does not respond well to a light foot...check out pedal box...i think this may be your answer.
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First and second are quite short, you really don't spend much time with them. From about 1500rpm it's strong right up just short of the red line, you don't need second for long, get into third quickly. If in doubt, just follow the shift instructions on the display...
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The guy that told you about the difference between normal and sport and 123rd and 456th is bullsh!ting you.
The more troubles you say you have with the car the more I think you bought a pup.
Shes going in on the 1st so will get her checked top to bottom then my mini was mapped and had guts plua lighter so being told its hard to compare like for like
The torque in a GTD would make it the opposite to the mini in that respect and would have absolutely no problem getting up even the steepest of hills.
Who told you this, was it someone in the place where you bought it?
No problems getting up hills i think im just nervous to floor it i dont think im explaining myself right 1st and 2nd are very short so when i pull away for example into traffic if i floor it she revs and im shifting in2 2nd very quick then in2 3rd as the first 2 gears are short thats what i mean does that make more sense ? It was on here i was told 123 and 456 it was about 1 and 2 being short in normal but longer in sport ?
Not sure you're doing a great job of explaining it, maybe some punctuation might help!
Diesels like the Golf don't rev much so 1st and 2nd won't be very revvy. The Sport mode makes no difference to this as someone else already said.
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The wife had a mini and i have had a gtd mk7 and now a mk7 gti, i think its the throttle response or lack of it, from memory the mini felt like a go kart and was very responsive but the gtd/gti does have a very relaxed accelerator pedal which does not respond well to a light foot...check out pedal box...i think this may be your answer.
I was also thinking the dead accelerator was a suspect here therefore ge pedal box would help...
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The wife had a mini and i have had a gtd mk7 and now a mk7 gti, i think its the throttle response or lack of it, from memory the mini felt like a go kart and was very responsive but the gtd/gti does have a very relaxed accelerator pedal which does not respond well to a light foot...check out pedal box...i think this may be your answer.
I was also thinking the dead accelerator was a suspect here therefore ge pedal box would help...
Will go have a look do u guys have experience of the pedalbox ?
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Yes I’m running one (on a GTi though) and have been for a few weeks. Take a look at the DTUK Pedalbox thread - it won’t give you more power, but Booth11 summed it up nicely saying ‘it wakes the car up’.
Well worth the money and you’ll end up feeling ‘this is how it should of come out of the factory’.
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Yes I’m running one (on a GTi though) and have been for a few weeks. Take a look at the DTUK Pedalbox thread - it won’t give you more power, but Booth11 summed it up nicely saying ‘it wakes the car up’.
Well worth the money and you’ll end up feeling ‘this is how it should of come out of the factory’.
Super thanks for the advice will go bak in2 hiding again now :grin:
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https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/product/dtuk-crd-t-dual-channel-fuel-and-boost-system-1909/
Been chatting with Simon at DTUK and he has recomended this any thoughts ?
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https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/product/dtuk-crd-t-dual-channel-fuel-and-boost-system-1909/
Been chatting with Simon at DTUK and he has recomended this any thoughts ?
That’s their tuning box - depends if you want to go down the tuning route to get more power, and then if you decide you do need more power, there are a fair few products/routes to navigate.
I’ve never felt the need for more power, but couldn’t live with the accelerator.
Or you could go for both!
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Pedal box is a must imo. Car is not complete without it.
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Pedal box is a must imo. Car is not complete without it.
So this isnt the peddlebox its just tuning ?
He asked what my concerns were this was his recommendation :undecided:
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Fully Adjustable Digital Petrol and Diesel Tuning Boxes Up to 40% gain dyno proven Power and Torque
Up to 20% improvement in Fuel Economy**
Programmed specifically for your car, van, motorhome or tractor
*****Improved throttle response with smoother drive
Improved low rev range Torque, which is ideal for towing
Says this in the desc of the tuning chip
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Pedal box is a must imo. Car is not complete without it.
So this isnt the peddlebox its just tuning ?
He asked what my concerns were this was his recommendation :undecided:
No, the post you linked to is the tuning box, is an increase in power. The pedal box does not increase power output but does sharpen throttle pedal response which may address some of your concerns.
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My good mate has both fitted to his vrs, its 184 hp like the gtd and now is just as fast as my gti pp, but before you consider the tuning box I would recommend trying the pedal box first, it wakes the car up and if you do have a light foot you wont believe the difference it will make to the drive of your gtd, the tuning box can still be added at a later date if required. :smiley:
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My good mate has both fitted to his vrs, its 184 hp like the gtd and now is just as fast as my gti pp, but before you consider the tuning box I would recommend trying the pedal box first, it wakes the car up and if you do have a light foot you wont believe the difference it will make to the drive of your gtd, the tuning box can still be added at a later date if required. :smiley:
Thanks all shall order one today are they easy enough to fit ?
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
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Reading this thread from the start, I think that the OP has not got used to the gear ratios and torque delivery of the diesel yet. A pedal box won't make any difference to any of that.
OP seems to be running out of revs in the lower gears, so needs to short shift and ride the wave of torque, rather than hang onto the gears to the redline. It's easily done in the lower gears, especially if you are used to driving a petrol. Most situations are dealt with in a gear higher that you would in a petrol engined car, so take more time to learn how to drive it.
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
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Reading this thread from the start, I think that the OP has not got used to the gear ratios and torque delivery of the diesel yet. A pedal box won't make any difference to any of that.
OP seems to be running out of revs in the lower gears, so needs to short shift and ride the wave of torque, rather than hang onto the gears to the redline. It's easily done in the lower gears, especially if you are used to driving a petrol. Most situations are dealt with in a gear higher that you would in a petrol engined car, so take more time to learn how to drive it.
My previous car was a Cooper SD it had no lag in 1st and 2nd and bolted when asked to the golf is very different i agree i am getting used to short shifts in 1 and 2 - its a case of altering the drive style from past 3 years with the mini to something different but i am off to order the pedal box as Rebecca and others recommended it before and it gets lots of great reviews thanks for your advice :wink:
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
Many thanks for the code CHB100 i will order the newer version it looks nicer anyway :grin:
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
Codes not working :( never mind thanks anyway x
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That's why I like a DSG on diesel models. With the relatively limited rev and power band, in 1st and 2nd it's quite easy when making a quick getaway to run our of revs or hit the rev limiter. With a DSG box, you just plant the throttle and let the car take care of it, with lightening quick gear changes. Over my last 3 VW diesels, (one Scirocco and two MK7 GTD's), they have all been DSG, and I wouldn't go back to a manual now, except maybe in a petrol engine sports or hot hatch vehicle.
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https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/product/dtuk-crd-t-dual-channel-fuel-and-boost-system-1909/
Been chatting with Simon at DTUK and he has recomended this any thoughts ?
Course he did, it's more than twice the price. :whistle:
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https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/product/dtuk-crd-t-dual-channel-fuel-and-boost-system-1909/
Been chatting with Simon at DTUK and he has recomended this any thoughts ?
Course he did, it's more than twice the price. :whistle:
Its negligible now anyway insurance wont cover it and would make my policy invalid :angry: WANKE*S
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The pedal box should be insurance friendly... sometimes they struggle to understand what it is if you declare it but essentially its no different to the "sport" mode most cars have these days, its just more adaptable than the fixed settings the OEM provides.
Its not tuning, it doesn't provide any more power than you have already, it just delivers it differently depending on throttle position.
Minis are geared really differently, they are designed to be city cars. A Golf is not a city car...
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The pedal box should be insurance friendly... sometimes they struggle to understand what it is if you declare it but essentially its no different to the "sport" mode most cars have these days, its just more adaptable than the fixed settings the OEM provides.
Its not tuning, it doesn't provide any more power than you have already, it just delivers it differently depending on throttle position.
Minis are geared really differently, they are designed to be city cars. A Golf is not a city car...
Hi Fred
I came across another fab wee chap on Privilege there and he said i can have it tralalalalalala :grin: ordered and awaiting dispatch for delivery tomorrow sometimes it pays to get a second opinion particularly when the first never asked my age or driving history ! :wink:
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You will love pedal box :smiley: it cost me nothing to add to the insurance too.
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
Codes not working :( never mind thanks anyway x
Probably too late now but it’s code RF80 for discount not RF20. Pedal Box Plus is the updated pedal box designed to work with newer digital SENT sensors, and the one to get if buying now. Fitting advice here although it now has a oem red clip not the old dodgy grey clip which is a big improvement. Takes minutes to fit and can either get access by removing trim plate or accessing via driver’s side cubby, feeding the cable over the back or removing cubby if needs be (see P.4 of the linked thread).
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Also here. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
Codes not working :( never mind thanks anyway x
Probably too late now but it’s code RF80 for discount not RF20. Pedal Box Plus is the updated pedal box designed to work with newer digital SENT sensors, and the one to get if buying now. Fitting advice here although it now has a oem red clip not the old dodgy grey clip which is a big improvement. Takes minutes to fit and can either get access by removing trim plate or accessing via driver’s side cubby, feeding the cable over the back or removing cubby if needs be (see P.4 of the linked thread).
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Also here. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
I got the RF80 code of the vWROC page where i see you are as prominent a figure as on here Rebecca - reading some of your posts with ginja ninja earlier and was chuckling away to myself over the banter :) £189 in total as went for the plus my cars a 2016 will it have the SENT you mention ?
How are you otherwise ? Jen x
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
Codes not working :( never mind thanks anyway x
Probably too late now but it’s code RF80 for discount not RF20. Pedal Box Plus is the updated pedal box designed to work with newer digital SENT sensors, and the one to get if buying now. Fitting advice here although it now has a oem red clip not the old dodgy grey clip which is a big improvement. Takes minutes to fit and can either get access by removing trim plate or accessing via driver’s side cubby, feeding the cable over the back or removing cubby if needs be (see P.4 of the linked thread).
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Also here. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
I got the RF80 code of the vWROC page where i see you are as prominent a figure as on here Rebecca - reading some of your posts with ginja ninja earlier and was chuckling away to myself over the banter :) £189 in total as went for the plus my cars a 2016 will it have the SENT you mention ?
How are you otherwise ? Jen x
Ah, glad you got the right code.
ginga ninja?
No, it doesn’t have SENT sensor, that will likely come with mk8 Golf, but the pedal box plus works with both analogue and digital sensors and looks much more modern than the older style.
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Sorry wrong code, did it from memory and I only used it a month ago. :rolleyes: Age, goes to show ask me what happened in 50/60s I'm your man. Last week! Now, why did I come upstairs? :wink:
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There are 2 kinds any advice on which one ? X
The pedal box plus is a later model with more adjustments, recommended.
Use code RF20 for £10 discount.
Fitting although basically easy can be awkward depending on your nimbleness there are picture links on here as well as step by step advice. Basically you disconnect the fitting above the throttle pedal and insert the connections between the vacant connections
I would recommend city mode first and adjust to sport? As you get used to it.
Codes not working :( never mind thanks anyway x
Probably too late now but it’s code RF80 for discount not RF20. Pedal Box Plus is the updated pedal box designed to work with newer digital SENT sensors, and the one to get if buying now. Fitting advice here although it now has a oem red clip not the old dodgy grey clip which is a big improvement. Takes minutes to fit and can either get access by removing trim plate or accessing via driver’s side cubby, feeding the cable over the back or removing cubby if needs be (see P.4 of the linked thread).
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/13010-mk7-r-how-to-fit-a-dtuk-pedalbox/
Also here. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276517.0
I got the RF80 code of the vWROC page where i see you are as prominent a figure as on here Rebecca - reading some of your posts with ginja ninja earlier and was chuckling away to myself over the banter :) £189 in total as went for the plus my cars a 2016 will it have the SENT you mention ?
How are you otherwise ? Jen x
Ah, glad you got the right code.
ginga ninja?
No, it doesn’t have SENT sensor, that will likely come with mk8 Golf, but the pedal box plus works with both analogue and digital sensors and looks much more modern than the older style.
SORRY - ninja_geezer the chat about you upgrading and he would decide based on your opinion whether to get one or not was funny reading it all
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Sorry wrong code, did it from memory and I only used it a month ago. :rolleyes: Age, goes to show ask me what happened in 50/60s I'm your man. Last week! Now, why did I come upstairs? :wink:
i do that and im not old :grin: i tend to go back to where i was when the idea came to me and it works ........sometimes.........i blame the kids for my memory issues and the vodka, and work, and life and.............. :rolleyes:
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SORRY - ninja_geezer the chat about you upgrading and he would decide based on your opinion whether to get one or not was funny reading it all
Ah yes, ninja_geezer. He got one. I rather like the name ginga ninja, lol.
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Has arrived cars been washed and waxed this morning and im off to fit this bad boy....who said a woman needs a man eh :grin:
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And its done :smug:
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Great stuff Jeni, I'm sure you'll enjoy it, wouldn't want to drive mine without now and you don't have to drive like an idiot to get the benefit! Might be too late now but I would recommend starting low and building up as it takes a while for the right foot to compensate :laugh:
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Great stuff Jeni, I'm sure you'll enjoy it, wouldn't want to drive mine without now and you don't have to drive like an idiot to get the benefit! Might be too late now but I would recommend starting low and building up as it takes a while for the right foot to compensate :laugh:
Hi
Ita on green which i think is city ? Havent changed it as only been out to the shops and back but by god what a difference i think its safe to say i definitely LOVE my car now the lag was really beginning to piss me off and now poof just like that its fixed !
Thanks for the advice everyone always grateful happy Saturday folks x
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Great addition Jeni. I’d start in the middle, say on Sport program setting (amber) and then adjust up and down as you feel suits you best.
Glad you are enjoying the car more now. The pedal box is a necessity imo, be it a GTI, R or GTD.
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Happy days.