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Title: Still got no idea which tyres?!?
Post by: kane1210 on 11 October 2017, 18:51
Been looking at tyres for weeks!! Need some guidance as to which brand! Feels a bit like lookimg at different shades of  paint colours!! Help ......

Need some for my 19 inch brescia.

Does anybody have these rims?

What rubber you running on them?

Ben.

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Post by: fredgroves on 11 October 2017, 18:54
PS4. Job done, nothing further to say
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Post by: Guzzle on 11 October 2017, 19:08
PS4 if the budget will stretch, otherwise Eagle Asymmetric 3.
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Post by: Tara on 11 October 2017, 19:10
I have 4 new ps4's on mine and they are fantastic but mine are 18" but if I was buying 19" I would have considered the new Continental Contact Sport 6
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Post by: Booth11 on 11 October 2017, 19:37
PS4S (if available in your size). Not cheap but boy are they worth the money. Eat the potholes, very comfortable ride, very quiet.....and then there's the grip! 
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Post by: Snooze on 11 October 2017, 19:39
PS4’s
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Post by: kane1210 on 11 October 2017, 19:47
Ps4s don't last though am I right? Squishy like a jaffa cake!
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Post by: Daz Auto on 11 October 2017, 19:49
PS4S (if available in your size). Not cheap but boy are they worth the money. Eat the potholes, very comfortable ride, very quiet.....and then there's the grip!
I wish I could have waited for the PS4 S in size 18, but I didn't fancy driving around all winter with the OEM Bridgestone's :angry:

The only thing I don't like about my standard PS4 tyres are the noise levels.
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 October 2017, 20:02
PS4. Job done, nothing further to say

That's what I'd be putting, there has been lots of coverage of these (they've won tyre tests, great reviews etc). Would be a simple choice for me.
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Post by: Booth11 on 11 October 2017, 20:41
PS4S (if available in your size). Not cheap but boy are they worth the money. Eat the potholes, very comfortable ride, very quiet.....and then there's the grip!
I wish I could have waited for the PS4 S in size 18, but I didn't fancy driving around all winter with the OEM Bridgestone's :angry:

The only thing I don't like about my standard PS4 tyres are the noise levels.

Yeah, they need to get their skates on and put them out in 18s!  PS4 a good alternative though.  Are you finding them quite noisy then?
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Post by: fredgroves on 11 October 2017, 21:06
Ps4s don't last though am I right? Squishy like a jaffa cake!

The S is different to the normal PS4. Normal PS4 is all you need. Wears just fine.
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Post by: Daz Auto on 12 October 2017, 09:52
Are you finding them quite noisy then?
Yes, especially on the motorway. 

There haven't really been too many damp cold roads yet to test traction and braking. Though the car is  noticeably more comfortable now. With the increased comfort I am surprised that the road noise has not noticeably reduced. I honestly think that my old Mk6 GTD with 17 inch Goodyear AS2s was much quieter.

I realise the sound issue when I get into the car the next day and have to turn the radio down. It is probably the only thing that disappoints me about my new car. Though I can't help wondering if other tyres would fix it. I think I'll just live with it.

Tyre performance matters far more to me and these are probably the best available in their price bracket.
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Post by: Watts on 12 October 2017, 10:59
Mine is due a full set imminently and after exhaustive research* I'm going to spend the extra on PS4S. The ride, grip and noise improvements sound like money well spent. Or perhaps the Contis, mind you the new P Zeros are supposed to be good too :rolleyes: :whistle:





*I read bits of one review but got distracted by some nonsense on the telly which I'd seen before...
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Post by: Booth11 on 12 October 2017, 12:38
Mine is due a full set imminently and after exhaustive research* I'm going to spend the extra on PS4S. The ride, grip and noise improvements sound like money well spent. Or perhaps the Contis, mind you the new P Zeros are supposed to be good too :rolleyes: :whistle:


So that's decision made then.  :grin:

Do yourself a big favour, get the PS4S.  Pretty much the perfect tyre in my eyes/experience and although it's early days with mine, I believe the lifespan is quite a bit better than Contis (I got 12-13k out of last 3 sets of 5Ps, not sure how the 6's fare) and certainly quieter and better bump/rough road absorbing comfort. 
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Post by: Booth11 on 12 October 2017, 12:41


Tyre performance matters far more to me and these are probably the best available in their price bracket.

This.  Every time, but the added bonus of the PS4S is a much quieter ride compared to some (Conti 5Ps in my case).  You can have it all in a tyre.  So roll on next year for the 18" version.
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Post by: GTI2016 on 13 October 2017, 23:03
PS4S. Pilot Supersport replacement. Not only is the grip amazing (no juddering) I've found the feeling from the front end superior to the PSS and a noticeable change.
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Post by: ajmoir36 on 14 October 2017, 08:19
Michelin
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Post by: Wide on 15 October 2017, 14:35
Continental 6! 😀 or The Ps4..
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Post by: CocoPops on 15 October 2017, 15:34
I ran the MPSS on my Evora, now run the MPS4S.

Would happily run the MPS4S on my GTI. What do they come fitted with? (Still on order)
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Post by: mcmaddy on 15 October 2017, 17:51
If you've ordered 18" wheels then either Bridgestones or possibly Continental. 19s come with pirellis usually.
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 October 2017, 20:55
I ran the MPSS on my Evora, now run the MPS4S.

Would happily run the MPS4S on my GTI. What do they come fitted with? (Still on order)

Mine has the Bridgestone S001 - they are pretty average. Easy to induce wheel spin even in the dry.
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Post by: kane1210 on 15 October 2017, 21:26
Why does everyone bad mouth these Bridgestone!? I've driven on way worse!!!
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Post by: mcmaddy on 15 October 2017, 21:37
Drive sensibly on them and they are an ok tyre. It's just that other tyres are far better.
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Post by: Tara on 16 October 2017, 10:23
Are you finding them quite noisy then?
Yes, especially on the motorway. 

There haven't really been too many damp cold roads yet to test traction and braking. Though the car is  noticeably more comfortable now. With the increased comfort I am surprised that the road noise has not noticeably reduced. I honestly think that my old Mk6 GTD with 17 inch Goodyear AS2s was much quieter.

I realise the sound issue when I get into the car the next day and have to turn the radio down. It is probably the only thing that disappoints me about my new car. Though I can't help wondering if other tyres would fix it. I think I'll just live with it.

Tyre performance matters far more to me and these are probably the best available in their price bracket.
Hi
I just wanted to ask if you where getting a high pitch almost wind/whistle noise from the rear with these tyres ? Only ask as i have the same tyres on mine and I know it's not bearings as they have been done and just thought it might be the tyres, thanks
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Post by: Daz Auto on 16 October 2017, 10:42
Hi
I just wanted to ask if you where getting a high pitch almost wind/whistle noise from the rear with these tyres ? Only ask as i have the same tyres on mine and I know it's not bearings as they have been done and just thought it might be the tyres, thanks
No, it is just road noise. If the road is smooth there is no noise. If the road is rough there is lots of tyre roar.

You could try swapping your front and rear tyres.
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Post by: Tara on 16 October 2017, 13:05
Hi
I just wanted to ask if you where getting a high pitch almost wind/whistle noise from the rear with these tyres ? Only ask as i have the same tyres on mine and I know it's not bearings as they have been done and just thought it might be the tyres, thanks
No, it is just road noise. If the road is smooth there is no noise. If the road is rough there is lots of tyre roar.

You could try swapping your front and rear tyres.

Ok will do.
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Post by: Sandtrap on 16 October 2017, 13:46
PS4 ..
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Post by: DarrenW on 16 October 2017, 21:35
Anyone running Dunlop SP Sportmaxx RT2? Would go for the PS4 but the noise is concerning.

The Dunlops were excellent on my MINI. Can’t believe how prone to wheelspin and tramping the Potenzas are.
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Post by: Watts on 18 October 2017, 21:06
This has just got a bit trickier, was sold on the Michelins but have just checked the prices on blackcircles. P Zeros just under £600, Conti 6s about £630 and PS4S at £780. The P Zeros have been updated recently and review well, pretty happy with my current ones having covered near 20k miles so not sure I want to spend the extra £180, that's 200 packets of pork scratchings! Hmmm....
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 18 October 2017, 21:59
Why does everyone bad mouth these Bridgestone!? I've driven on way worse!!!

Why.... Because they are crap! They were crap back in 2011. They came 8th of out 10 in a tyre test on the GTI in 2011

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tyre-guides/36695/tyre-test-2011

They would be fine for an SE model but not the GTI. I'm dreading the temperature dropping as they are already struggling for traction unless you drive like Miss Daisy.
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Post by: clubsport on 18 October 2017, 23:04
I fitted a pair of 18" PS4 on the rear today. I will report back when I have driven a little further on them.
So far they seem ok and look good with a hint of rim protection.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2017, 06:31
Why does everyone bad mouth these Bridgestone!? I've driven on way worse!!!

Why.... Because they are crap! They were crap back in 2011. They came 8th of out 10 in a tyre test on the GTI in 2011

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tyre-guides/36695/tyre-test-2011

They would be fine for an SE model but not the GTI. I'm dreading the temperature dropping as they are already struggling for traction unless you drive like Miss Daisy.
So are you saying you'd drive the same in every road condition if you had a "better" tyre? You drive to the road conditions in front of you so if that means take your time or 'drive like miss daisy" then that's what you do.
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Post by: Daz Auto on 19 October 2017, 19:41
So are you saying you'd drive the same in every road condition if you had a "better" tyre? You drive to the road conditions in front of you so if that means take your time or 'drive like miss daisy" then that's what you do.
With good tyres fitted to my car - I do drive the same in most conditions.

As someone else pointed out to you before - The problem with Bridgestone tyres is the difference between their performance in warm weather and their poor performance in cold wet weather. A good tyre will perform almost the same in most conditions.

In the winter - you don't have to be going fast at all on Bridgestone tyres to experience wheel spin, ABS and understeer. Not things I want my performance Golf to be doing! I want tyres I have confidence in.

Obviously I drive a lot more cautiously in extreme weather conditions - even with winter tyres fitted.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 19 October 2017, 20:12
I've never had wheelspin, and lights or anything in mine and I don't drive like miss daisy either.
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 20 October 2017, 12:44
Why does everyone bad mouth these Bridgestone!? I've driven on way worse!!!

Why.... Because they are crap! They were crap back in 2011. They came 8th of out 10 in a tyre test on the GTI in 2011

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tyre-guides/36695/tyre-test-2011

They would be fine for an SE model but not the GTI. I'm dreading the temperature dropping as they are already struggling for traction unless you drive like Miss Daisy.
So are you saying you'd drive the same in every road condition if you had a "better" tyre? You drive to the road conditions in front of you so if that means take your time or 'drive like miss daisy" then that's what you do.

No, I don't remember saying anything like that, maybe re-read my comment. The Bridgestone S001's are a crap old tyre, crap back in 2011 and made to look even crapper now by the likes of the Michelin PS4. It's not just the views of people who own the car that's why I posted the test results (from 2011!!). Wet performance is crap. Better tyres mean better grip. It's not exactly rocket science.  :rolleyes:

If you've never had any wheelspin or TC lights then well done you. You probably get 50 mpg as well.  :grin:
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Post by: mcmaddy on 20 October 2017, 17:55
No nowhere near 50!! Maybe I'm just a better driver than others and can manage a so called inferior tyre without using a lead right foot and wheel spinning. I don't care what tyres you have but you adjust your driving style to suit the road conditions and not drive the same in all conditions. You must be one of these loonys who drives like an idiot in rain, hail and snow and thinks it's great. Anyway as I've said the Bridgestones are not the best tyre but certainly not worth chucking for new ones immediately.
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Post by: Daz Auto on 20 October 2017, 21:07
If you've never had any wheelspin or TC lights then well done you. You probably get 50 mpg as well.  :grin:
:grin:

Maybe I'm just a better driver than others and can manage a so called inferior tyre without using a lead right foot and wheel spinning. I don't care what tyres you have but you adjust your driving style to suit the road conditions and not drive the same in all conditions.

Anyway as I've said the Bridgestones are not the best tyre but certainly not worth chucking for new ones immediately.
So... You adjust your driving to the 'poor' conditions. While other people like me think - these tyres are 'poor', buy good tyres, and just drive their cars. (excepting extreme weather conditions obviously).

My dad always thought this 4x4 was 'poor' in the winter because he always bought the cheapest tyres. :rolleyes:

As I explained to you before - I replaced my tyres because I'm not prepared to slide around on Bridgestone tyres for 2/3 years in a brand new performance car. Just like a mod - I replaced my tyres to improve the performance of my performance car.




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Post by: Hurdy on 20 October 2017, 21:44
Just about to put a set of MPS4 tyres at 235/40/18 on my 400bhp Cupra.

The MPS4 225/45/17 tyres are great, so a little wider should help when the power gets upped to 460-470bhp.
Here's keeping the fingers crossed that next year the MPS4S tyres come in 245/40/18!
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 20 October 2017, 23:20
No nowhere near 50!! Maybe I'm just a better driver than others and can manage a so called inferior tyre without using a lead right foot and wheel spinning. I don't care what tyres you have but you adjust your driving style to suit the road conditions and not drive the same in all conditions. You must be one of these loonys who drives like an idiot in rain, hail and snow and thinks it's great. Anyway as I've said the Bridgestones are not the best tyre but certainly not worth chucking for new ones immediately.

Jesus, making a lot of assumptions there about my driving! Shall I send you my dashcam footage?!

Maybe I'm just a better driver.. yes ok Lewis, chill yourself out...! At least you could qualify for moronic forum post of 2017  :wink:
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 20 October 2017, 23:25
If you've never had any wheelspin or TC lights then well done you. You probably get 50 mpg as well.  :grin:
:grin:

Maybe I'm just a better driver than others and can manage a so called inferior tyre without using a lead right foot and wheel spinning. I don't care what tyres you have but you adjust your driving style to suit the road conditions and not drive the same in all conditions.

Anyway as I've said the Bridgestones are not the best tyre but certainly not worth chucking for new ones immediately.
So... You adjust your driving to the 'poor' conditions. While other people like me think - these tyres are 'poor', buy good tyres, and just drive their cars. (excepting extreme weather conditions obviously).

My dad always thought this 4x4 was 'poor' in the winter because he always bought the cheapest tyres. :rolleyes:

As I explained to you before - I replaced my tyres because I'm not prepared to slide around on Bridgestone tyres for 2/3 years in a brand new performance car. Just like a mod - I replaced my tyres to improve the performance of my performance car.

Agreed, unfortunately some people seem happy that a performance hatch in 2017 is fitted with tyres that are some of the worst available.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 21 October 2017, 07:59
No nowhere near 50!! Maybe I'm just a better driver than others and can manage a so called inferior tyre without using a lead right foot and wheel spinning. I don't care what tyres you have but you adjust your driving style to suit the road conditions and not drive the same in all conditions. You must be one of these loonys who drives like an idiot in rain, hail and snow and thinks it's great. Anyway as I've said the Bridgestones are not the best tyre but certainly not worth chucking for new ones immediately.

Jesus, making a lot of assumptions there about my driving! Shall I send you my dashcam footage?!

Maybe I'm just a better driver.. yes ok Lewis, chill yourself out...! At least you could qualify for moronic forum post of 2017  :wink:
Not really but most of yours would qualify too! I'm agreeing that the Bridgestones aren't the best but you can still drive the car properly without inducing wheelspin or any traction control lights. If you can't then it's down to driving style.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 21 October 2017, 08:03
Why would you be sliding around Daz Auto?? Driving style maybe  :whistle:
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 October 2017, 08:57
No nowhere near 50!! Maybe I'm just a better driver than others and can manage a so called inferior tyre without using a lead right foot and wheel spinning. I don't care what tyres you have but you adjust your driving style to suit the road conditions and not drive the same in all conditions. You must be one of these loonys who drives like an idiot in rain, hail and snow and thinks it's great. Anyway as I've said the Bridgestones are not the best tyre but certainly not worth chucking for new ones immediately.

Jesus, making a lot of assumptions there about my driving! Shall I send you my dashcam footage?!

Maybe I'm just a better driver.. yes ok Lewis, chill yourself out...! At least you could qualify for moronic forum post of 2017  :wink:
Not really but most of yours would qualify too! I'm agreeing that the Bridgestones aren't the best but you can still drive the car properly without inducing wheelspin or any traction control lights. If you can't then it's down to driving style.

Ok - maybe the post wasn't that bad!

I wonder if having the diff on the PP makes a difference? I'm not saying it's un-driveable but I will be interested to see how it feels when I need to change the tyres as definitely wouldn't get the Bridgestones again.
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Post by: I wanted a GTi on 21 October 2017, 17:03
Before I sold my Lugano wheels I tried them on the Golf and braking from 60mph to a stop and the P Zeros stoped over 30ft quicker(from memory) than the Bridgestones. It was late March and not cold and dry and the abs was working the whole way with the BS.

Tried it with my Cup 2's as well and they were much better than the P Zeros.

If a kid runs out in front of me I know which tyre I wouldn't want on the car.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 21 October 2017, 17:19
I was just thinking the same Jim. Might explain why I don't get the wheel spin. I do admit that when cold the Bridgestones are not the best and I wouldn't buy a set but I've done 9000 miles on them and they are ok (nicer when warmed up though 😁).
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Post by: Watts on 16 November 2017, 16:25
This problem is now resolved for me, just ordered 4x PS4S on Blackcircles. They are doing £40 off for 4 plus when I went through the checkout they offered 6 months interest free with no deposit. Well, it'd be rude not to accept :wink: Hope all you wonderful people are right about these tyres, P Zeros were £120 cheaper and my existing ones have covered 20k miles so I'm expecting miracles :whistle:
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Post by: Booth11 on 16 November 2017, 16:38
This problem is now resolved for me, just ordered 4x PS4S on Blackcircles. They are doing £40 off for 4 plus when I went through the checkout they offered 6 months interest free with no deposit. Well, it'd be rude not to accept :wink: Hope all you wonderful people are right about these tyres, P Zeros were £120 cheaper and my existing ones have covered 20k miles so I'm expecting miracles :whistle:

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:
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Post by: Watts on 16 November 2017, 17:00
This problem is now resolved for me, just ordered 4x PS4S on Blackcircles. They are doing £40 off for 4 plus when I went through the checkout they offered 6 months interest free with no deposit. Well, it'd be rude not to accept :wink: Hope all you wonderful people are right about these tyres, P Zeros were £120 cheaper and my existing ones have covered 20k miles so I'm expecting miracles :whistle:

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:

Oh no :sad: :laugh:
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Post by: golfdave on 16 November 2017, 17:17
This problem is now resolved for me, just ordered 4x PS4S on Blackcircles. They are doing £40 off for 4 plus when I went through the checkout they offered 6 months interest free with no deposit. Well, it'd be rude not to accept :wink: Hope all you wonderful people are right about these tyres, P Zeros were £120 cheaper and my existing ones have covered 20k miles so I'm expecting miracles :whistle:

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:

Agree especially at this time of year.....Alpin 5's much better...  :tongue:
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Post by: Watts on 16 November 2017, 17:46
This problem is now resolved for me, just ordered 4x PS4S on Blackcircles. They are doing £40 off for 4 plus when I went through the checkout they offered 6 months interest free with no deposit. Well, it'd be rude not to accept :wink: Hope all you wonderful people are right about these tyres, P Zeros were £120 cheaper and my existing ones have covered 20k miles so I'm expecting miracles :whistle:

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:

Agree especially at this time of year.....Alpin 5's much better...  :tongue:

But it's 25c and sunny every day down here :wink:
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Post by: golfdave on 16 November 2017, 17:51

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:

Agree especially at this time of year.....Alpin 5's much better...  :tongue:
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But it's 25c and sunny every day down here :wink:
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haha.....


I come from London.....& lived at the bottom of a hill...one winter the snow was so bad even with chains (one summers/normal tyres) we couldn't get out....
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Post by: Watts on 16 November 2017, 18:05
It's flat round my way and in over 30 years of driving I have never got stuck due to snow or ice. Have thought about winter tyres but doubt I'd ever get my money's worth.
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Post by: I wanted a GTi on 16 November 2017, 18:06

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:

Agree especially at this time of year.....Alpin 5's much better...  :tongue:

But it's 25c and sunny every day down here :wink:
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haha.....


I come from London.....& lived at the bottom of a hill...one winter the snow was so bad even with chains (one summers/normal tyres) we couldn't get out....
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Not being able to get out of your road when it snows is God's way of telling you that the afternoon is meant to be spent by the fire with a good whiskey:grin:
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Post by: Watts on 16 November 2017, 18:10

Terrible decision, they are crap tyres.   :laugh:

Agree especially at this time of year.....Alpin 5's much better...  :tongue:

But it's 25c and sunny every day down here :wink:

haha.....


I come from London.....& lived at the bottom of a hill...one winter the snow was so bad even with chains (one summers/normal tyres) we couldn't get out....
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Not being able to get out of your road when it snows is God's way of telling you that the afternoon is meant to be spent by the fire with a good whiskey:grin:
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Bugger, hadn't thought of that. I'm moving to the bottom of a hill....
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Post by: golfdave on 16 November 2017, 18:18

Not being able to get out of your road when it snows is God's way of telling you that the afternoon is meant to be spent by the fire with a good whiskey:grin:

when I lived in London at the bottom of a hill I had no fire & didn't drink whiskey...

Now I live in Scotland, on the flat, with a wood burning stove & drink whiskey...& have winters on the car....


I think I buggered up somewhere..... :undecided:

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Post by: Watts on 27 November 2017, 17:00
Had my PS4S a week now and I'm impressed. They grip much better than the old Pirellis, even when they were nearly new. I've not had any wheelspin or tramping neither has the traction control light come on and it has been wet and cold. I'd have had all 3 regularly ibefore changing :rolleyes:

Only annoyance is some marks where the wheels were clamped for tyre removal/refitting. Checked with the garage, and they are very good been going there for years, and they said they were as careful as they could be, no marks on the faces, but couldn't entirely avoid some marking as the machine had to be able to grip. Anyone else noticed this? It is right at the rear of the barrels so very difficult to see so I'm not too annoyed but certainly disappointed after all the efforts I have put in to keep them tidy. :sad:
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Post by: Eccie on 27 November 2017, 17:36
Had my PS4S a week now and I'm impressed. They grip much better than the old Pirellis, even when they were nearly new. I've not had any wheelspin or tramping neither has the traction control light come on and it has been wet and cold. I'd have had all 3 regularly ibefore changing :rolleyes:

Only annoyance is some marks where the wheels were clamped for tyre removal/refitting. Checked with the garage, and they are very good been going there for years, and they said they were as careful as they could be, no marks on the faces, but couldn't entirely avoid some marking as the machine had to be able to grip. Anyone else noticed this? It is right at the rear of the barrels so very difficult to see so I'm not too annoyed but certainly disappointed after all the efforts I have put in to keep them tidy. :sad:

I've experienced those sort of marks Watts, as you say I think they are unavoidable as the machine has to clamp the wheel
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Post by: Watts on 27 November 2017, 17:45
Had my PS4S a week now and I'm impressed. They grip much better than the old Pirellis, even when they were nearly new. I've not had any wheelspin or tramping neither has the traction control light come on and it has been wet and cold. I'd have had all 3 regularly ibefore changing :rolleyes:

Only annoyance is some marks where the wheels were clamped for tyre removal/refitting. Checked with the garage, and they are very good been going there for years, and they said they were as careful as they could be, no marks on the faces, but couldn't entirely avoid some marking as the machine had to be able to grip. Anyone else noticed this? It is right at the rear of the barrels so very difficult to see so I'm not too annoyed but certainly disappointed after all the efforts I have put in to keep them tidy. :sad:

I've experienced those sort of marks Watts, as you say I think they are unavoidable as the machine has to clamp the wheel

Thanks. Having googled, it shouldn't happen if the right kit is used. They have been really careful but as they aren't specifically a tyrefitters I don't think they are so experienced to be able to avoid the problem. Next time I'll choose my fitters more carefully and in the meantime I'll have to get some touch up paint.
Title: Re: Still got no idea which tyres?!?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 27 November 2017, 19:05
Had my PS4S a week now and I'm impressed. They grip much better than the old Pirellis, even when they were nearly new. I've not had any wheelspin or tramping neither has the traction control light come on and it has been wet and cold. I'd have had all 3 regularly ibefore changing :rolleyes:

Only annoyance is some marks where the wheels were clamped for tyre removal/refitting. Checked with the garage, and they are very good been going there for years, and they said they were as careful as they could be, no marks on the faces, but couldn't entirely avoid some marking as the machine had to be able to grip. Anyone else noticed this? It is right at the rear of the barrels so very difficult to see so I'm not too annoyed but certainly disappointed after all the efforts I have put in to keep them tidy. :sad:

If they do it the easy way then use they will mark the wheel but if the use it the harder way then there should be no marking. The machine should have two ways to grip the wheel, one where it holds the inside rim edge which will leave no marks that can be seen without taking the wheel off and looking at where the tyre and rim meet and even then should be very hard to notice.

The other way is where the jaws of the machine hold the wheel from the inside of the barrel and that will leave 4 marks with each one having 3 or 4 lines. That's what the dealer done to two of my new wheels wheels so I rejected them.

Today was the first time I've driven the car with the PS4's and the difference was quite startling. I have done a few brake tests before I had the PS4's fitted but still need to do it with the Michelin's but waiting until the temperature is the same.
Title: Re: Still got no idea which tyres?!?
Post by: Watts on 27 November 2017, 19:35
Had my PS4S a week now and I'm impressed. They grip much better than the old Pirellis, even when they were nearly new. I've not had any wheelspin or tramping neither has the traction control light come on and it has been wet and cold. I'd have had all 3 regularly ibefore changing :rolleyes:

Only annoyance is some marks where the wheels were clamped for tyre removal/refitting. Checked with the garage, and they are very good been going there for years, and they said they were as careful as they could be, no marks on the faces, but couldn't entirely avoid some marking as the machine had to be able to grip. Anyone else noticed this? It is right at the rear of the barrels so very difficult to see so I'm not too annoyed but certainly disappointed after all the efforts I have put in to keep them tidy. :sad:

If they do it the easy way then use they will mark the wheel but if the use it the harder way then there should be no marking. The machine should have two ways to grip the wheel, one where it holds the inside rim edge which will leave no marks that can be seen without taking the wheel off and looking at where the tyre and rim meet and even then should be very hard to notice.

The other way is where the jaws of the machine hold the wheel from the inside of the barrel and that will leave 4 marks with each one having 3 or 4 lines. That's what the dealer done to two of my new wheels wheels so I rejected them.

Today was the first time I've driven the car with the PS4's and the difference was quite startling. I have done a few brake tests before I had the PS4's fitted but still need to do it with the Michelin's but waiting until the temperature is the same.

I am a bit fed up over it but I'll get over it, not like they're mint anyway, just a bit less mint and no-one else will ever notice.

Not sure the Michelins are much if at all quieter but superior in all other departments. I'm impressed with your scientific integrity :laugh: