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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 2007GTI on 02 October 2017, 10:03
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So I fired up OBDeleven and purchased the option to disable the soundaktor, however it hasn't taken the 10 credits i should of cost.
Anyone else experienced this?
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I've never used the credits because I use long coding but I think that should be about right. I can check later when I'm in the car because I've built up something like 60-70 credits over the time I've been using it.
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I've done only one with credits (others done with long coding) but 10 is about right.
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Thanks, yeah it is deffo costs 10 credits, but what Im saying is, it has not deducted it from my balance with is odd!
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Don't you get a free 10 credits first?
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You can get 5 credits a day, I got to over 500 and stopped getting them as I use the adaptations or long coding.
OP have you got the "Pro" version and did the Soundmakingannoyingnoisething get turned off?
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I got the 10 credits by downloading apps
Don't you get a free 10 credits first?
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Yes I have Pro version.
I think it did get turned off
You can get 5 credits a day, I got to over 500 and stopped getting them as I use the adaptations or long coding.
OP have you got the "Pro" version and did the Soundmakingannoyingnoisething get turned off?
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Isn't idea of pro that you don't need 'credits'?
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Thats what I thought, only after it arrived realised that is not the case, they do say on their website...
https://obdeleven.com/en/content/7-app-and-features
** Apps always uses credits even with PRO version.
Apart from long coding of course, thats free
Isn't idea of pro that you don't need 'credits'?
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I've been using OBD11 Pro for the last year. I accumulate the points by clicking on the ads and have >1200 points now!
I have used the apps to consume points along the way, sometimes it takes a while for the points on the app to catch up, not always but as I say sometimes.
The first thing I would do is go to Google play store, search for OBD11 and you will be given the option to Install, or open/update.
If you have the open option on the right, you most likely have the latest OBD11 version, if it says update... then update your version of the app.
At this point when the app is current, the points total among other things seem to work more smoothly.
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Thanks, definitely the latest version.
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Am I glad I use VCDS and VCP and don't have to click on ads to use a product I paid for :whistle:
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Am I glad I use VCDS and VCP and don't have to click on ads to use a product I paid for :whistle:
If you used it you would see that you don't. I've never clicked on an advert and I've done everything that I could have done with VCDS for just over £50, how much is VCDS again?
Oh yeah and I don't need to have a laptop to run it on, all done from my phone which I always have with me.
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I can see both sides, might be much better to have the full system and do everything for free, but as a former app developer, I can see the logic in providing a free app (which takes thousands of pounds to develop) and then the user only paying for what you need. As frustrating as it might be for some and that it might seem like a rip off to pay for features, but in fact its almost like paying as you go.
Am I glad I use VCDS and VCP and don't have to click on ads to use a product I paid for :whistle:
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Am I glad I use VCDS and VCP and don't have to click on ads to use a product I paid for :whistle:
do you have some kind of scripts you can use in VCDS? (Serious question)
That's all a app is, the coding all put together in a one click,
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Of course VCDS is a lot more, but then I find it a lot easier to use for what I do.
What I mean is that you get more overview, it is easier to look at coding notes at the same time as I have VCDS or VCP open, with possibly the exception of 'Leuchte' configuration on the MQB platform where VCP has the best usability. I don't like using a tiny mobile phone screen and I usually have a laptop in the car for work anyway.
If you only want to do basic coding OBD11 is OK (I tried on someone's phone who came over to have me code things that you need VCP for) but if you get more into depth or do many cars VCDS (or VCP for some stuff) is just a lot more comfortable, plus I can easily send logs and coding changes by email, save EEPROM dumps (VCP) to local disc and so forth.
I know app development can be expensive but if I buy the 'pro' pack I'd expect that I can do it all without needing to accumulate some funny credits. If it was the basic version I'd understand...
VCDS doesn't have scripts as such, VCP can do a lot of things automated, they call it guided functions.
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Good simple video here of the basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHSr-M0gog
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Of course VCDS is a lot more, but then I find it a lot easier to use for what I do.
What I mean is that you get more overview, it is easier to look at coding notes at the same time as I have VCDS or VCP open, with possibly the exception of 'Leuchte' configuration on the MQB platform where VCP has the best usability. I don't like using a tiny mobile phone screen and I usually have a laptop in the car for work anyway.
If you only want to do basic coding OBD11 is OK (I tried on someone's phone who came over to have me code things that you need VCP for) but if you get more into depth or do many cars VCDS (or VCP for some stuff) is just a lot more comfortable, plus I can easily send logs and coding changes by email, save EEPROM dumps (VCP) to local disc and so forth.
I know app development can be expensive but if I buy the 'pro' pack I'd expect that I can do it all without needing to accumulate some funny credits. If it was the basic version I'd understand...
VCDS doesn't have scripts as such, VCP can do a lot of things automated, they call it guided functions.
Again you don't need to use credits to do anything with the pro version.
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What are they there for then in pro version? Guided functions?
(No full quote needed btw)
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What are they there for then in pro version? Guided functions?
(No full quote needed btw)
Have you ever read anything about OBDeleven or are you just assuming stuff again? You seem to know so much about it :rolleyes:
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I think you'll find there there in the standard version, the pro upgrade adds the coding, no point in removing stuff
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I wasn't saying functionality should be removed, just that I don't understand why you'd have to spend imaginary credits for anything if you have the pro version (and before someone who wanted a GTI says again you don't need to use credits why does the website say you need credits even if using certain things in pro version).
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Because VIM and MIM is not available any other way 😉
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Standard version......You can only code using Apps and the Apps need credits to use.
Pro Version..... As the above with the standard but it has unlocked functionality and now you can use long coding and adaptations and unlike with using the App's it is totally free.
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If you've got the Pro, why not use the long coding rather than the apps. That way you know exactly what you've changed and have a log of it. Surely the reason for getting the pro version?
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You can adjust the sound with adaptation instead of long coding - scroll to the bottom control unit option, choose adaptation hit the only option on there and set a new percentage.
I'm always fiddling with mine, had it on zero for ages and then I miss it every now and then so re enable it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mzzKIEGkMo
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thanks for that!
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If you aren't very experienced and bought pro I think it'd be nice to still be able to use the automated functions to code something (without needing credits).
OBD11, even in pro version, is aimed more at the occasional user who often would not necessarily have the experience would have, excluding a few users on here.
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So I tried to turn off the start stop in my mums 2015 Polo, used adaptions, turned it to not active and it said change accepted, then a warning message came up on dash, and the bloody thing is not turned off! Did it twice, exactly the same!
Any ideas?
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You turn stop start off by either setting the temperature or voltage dude, there's no actual turn off
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So I tried to turn off the start stop in my mums 2015 Polo, used adaptions, turned it to not active and it said change accepted, then a warning message came up on dash, and the bloody thing is not turned off! Did it twice, exactly the same!
Any ideas?
I would use the app to set it back to ‘on’ in an attempt to remove the coding the app has performed then use long coding to disable it.
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So I tried to turn off the start stop in my mums 2015 Polo, used adaptions, turned it to not active and it said change accepted, then a warning message came up on dash, and the bloody thing is not turned off! Did it twice, exactly the same!
Any ideas?
I would use the app to set it back to ‘on’ in an attempt to remove the coding the app has performed then use long coding to disable it.
This is what I'd do too. And why long coding/adaptation is preferable method of making adaptations with apps imo.
Disable stop/start
1) Select Control unit 19
2) Select Adaptation
3) Select Stop start limit voltage
4) Change value to 12 (default is 7.6)
5) Press the green tick to confirm
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Just to say the original adaption a tried to make was under engine module. I went back to set it to on as suggested, but it was already on, so obv didn’t work before.
I just followed that guide above and set the voltage to 12 and it has worked, thanks.
Just curious exactly how changing that voltage value affects the stop start?
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Just to say the original adaption a tried to make was under engine module. I went back to set it to on as suggested, but it was already on, so obv didn’t work before.
I just followed that guide above and set the voltage to 12 and it has worked, thanks.
Just curious exactly how changing that voltage value affects the stop start?
It simply changes the voltage to a limit that stop/start is required to reach to kick in which if set at 12, it will never reach and so S/S won't function. The engine coolant temp method uses same principle, it will never achieve adapted set temp so stop start won't kick in. It can probably be explained better given more time.
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Essentially stop-start only works (i.e. automatically turns engine off and restarts if required) when certain parameters are met. Two of these are the battery voltage and the coolant temperature, using adaptations these parameters can be edited.
Depending on the car's model year if you set either of these to within what the car sees as a valid number but outside of what you'd realistically get presto, S-S will no longer work.
It will still restart the engine if you stalled it when you push clutch down again all the way - at least with keyless.
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Thanks both