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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 7MAT on 20 September 2017, 08:59
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The REMUS Responder improves throttle response by means of modifying the accelerator pedal output signal.
No more throttle delay and reduced lag during automatic shifting makes driving with the REMUS Responder more fun.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/7MAT/Golf%20GTI/remusresponder_zpsxiibbw5a.jpg)
After reading up on the Remus Responder I found one UK company with stock, after a few email exchanges they happily offered 10% for forum members. Many thanks to JV for allowing me to post up this offer.
RRP = £169.95, less 10% + £5.95 P&P = £158.91 delivered!
Coupon Code = GTI10
Available from Motech Performance, link below. Just about to order one for myself. :smiley:
http://motechperformance.bigcartel.com/product/remus-responder-vw
Discount appears to work site wide and is available on all products including the Remus Powerizer (https://www.remus.eu/tuning-parts/tp-powerizer.html) tuning box.
Matt
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How does this compare to the DTUK pedal box?
That seems to be the "Gold standard"?
I'd be interested in the feedback of others, but also if they do the same thing, then cheapest price wins :)
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How does this compare to the DTUK pedal box?
That seems to be the "Gold standard"?
I'd be interested in the feedback of others, but also if they do the same thing, then cheapest price wins :)
They are the same thing, even the DTUK tuning boxes are not theirs, they’re just DTE systems tuning box.
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Nice find, Just ordered mine, just to let you know they have sold out but they are on back order from Remus and should be in next week.
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I much prefer the look of the DTE Pedalbox + myself as the finish and quality are a lot better. If you have it hidden I don't suppose it makes much difference but mine is on show so decided for the + instead.
(https://www.pedalbox.com/media/wysiwyg/pedalbox/home/pedalbox_set_de_1.png)
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£560 quid for a tuning box!!
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It says coming soon on that link, are they even in stock?
The REMUS Responder improves throttle response by means of modifying the accelerator pedal output signal.
No more throttle delay and reduced lag during automatic shifting makes driving with the REMUS Responder more fun.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/7MAT/Golf%20GTI/remusresponder_zpsxiibbw5a.jpg)
After reading up on the Remus Responder I found one UK company with stock, after a few email exchanges they happily offered 10% for forum members. Many thanks to JV for allowing me to post up this offer.
RRP = £169.95, less 10% + £5.95 P&P = £158.91 delivered!
Coupon Code = GTI10
Available from Motech Performance, link below. Just about to order one for myself. :smiley:
http://motechperformance.bigcartel.com/product/remus-responder-vw
Discount appears to work site wide and is available on all products including the Remus Powerizer (https://www.remus.eu/tuning-parts/tp-powerizer.html) tuning box.
Matt
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It says coming soon on that link, are they even in stock?
See Finglonga post above. :wink:
Now sold out, but more stock due in next week.
Update: Mike Hodder from MotechPerformance has just emailed me to say thanks for the business. He's also confirmed he's now out of stock, but has more due in from REMUS next week.
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The Remus box is the same as the old style DTUK box that they used to sell (maybe they still do?). Does it have the nasty old style clip, or have they updated it to the proper VW one as per the DTUK version?
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The Remus box is the same as the old style DTUK box that they used to sell (maybe they still do?). Does it have the nasty old style clip, or have they updated it to the proper VW one as per the DTUK version?
That's a very good point. Is it the old dodgy grey clip or new oem style red clip. I have the old clip version.
This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
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This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
And this is where I'm at.
PedalBox Plus is £189 inc discount.
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This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
And this is where I'm at.
PedalBox Plus is £189 inc discount.
Agree :wink: Love it, much prettier :drool: and think it has more scope than the original?
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A bit late to the party probably as I've avoided paying attention to pedal boxes before due to having a remap. However it just dawned on me that perhaps a pedal box and remap could be perfect partners - does the pedal box just adjust the pedal itself or is it more involved? Anyone tried it with an ECU flash?
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I think this graph demonstrates it very well.
(https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/pedalbox-functioning.jpg)
That is the graph from DTUK's PedalBox Plus page.
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A bit late to the party probably as I've avoided paying attention to pedal boxes before due to having a remap. However it just dawned on me that perhaps a pedal box and remap could be perfect partners - does the pedal box just adjust the pedal itself or is it more involved? Anyone tried it with an ECU flash?
Well known in these parts as the perfect way of turning your car into a rocketship.
Do it!
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A bit late to the party probably as I've avoided paying attention to pedal boxes before due to having a remap. However it just dawned on me that perhaps a pedal box and remap could be perfect partners - does the pedal box just adjust the pedal itself or is it more involved? Anyone tried it with an ECU flash?
The pedalbox actually works even better with mapped cars. The ECU remap (or tuning box) doesn't remove the dead inch of travel in the throttle pedal, no remap does and I posted up a disagreement with one of the most highly regarded tuners of Golf R's I had on VWROC on here in another thread recently. I've since spoken to a member of VWROC who lives fairly locally to me who has had one of their maps and he still runs the pedalbox, albeit on a more gentle setting. Ignore what tuners say, they spend too much time with cars on rollers analysing EGT's, ignition advance and 3D maps not driving them in real world conditions, the ECU map and throttle pedal dead zone are not linked.
When you think about it, there's an initial pedal induced lag, then you hit peak spool on a remapped car which is a far less muted turbo spool than a factory standard grandma friendly map.
The pedalbox takes out that dead inch of travel which means you can drive the car through the turbo spool using your foot as the modulator of throttle to make much smoother and more responsive progress. Or very jerky progress if your pedalbox is set to Sport plus! :grin:
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How does this compare to the DTUK pedal box?
That seems to be the "Gold standard"?
I'd be interested in the feedback of others, but also if they do the same thing, then cheapest price wins :)
They are the same thing, even the DTUK tuning boxes are not theirs, they’re just DTE systems tuning box.
thats correct, and we've never hided the fact that we use DTE hardware ;) but sometimes, quite a lot of the time we develop our own software for the UK market :) - this goes for the pedalbox(+) too after feedback from customers and from our own vehicles
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The Remus box is the same as the old style DTUK box that they used to sell (maybe they still do?). Does it have the nasty old style clip, or have they updated it to the proper VW one as per the DTUK version?
That's a very good point. Is it the old dodgy grey clip or new oem style red clip. I have the old clip version.
This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
after using both the pedalbox and the pedalbox + is have to agree, the plus is more refined and the "perfect tune" makes things that touch better again.
Just found this on the R forum...
As a few of you will know I now have a pedal box plus fitted to my R.
Having had 3 of the standard type pedal box I was never blown away with it.
I found it to be really good when going for it but had issues where it was either on or off on light throttle.
Other issues I had were on light throttle I could feel a hesitation at certain speeds.
Having had 3 of them I could rule out a faulty unit and could work around this problem by running a pretty tame setting of Sport -2 or -3
This still eliminated the dead spot but made me wonder why I had it if using on a very low setting.
I sold my unit only last week and then while browsing the net found dtuk had released a pedalbox + unit.
After talking to Chris I asked the difference and his reply was that the new unit is smoother in operation and obviously looked much nicer.
I ordered it and it came the next day
Having now done 40 miles with the new one fitted I can confirm that fitting is exactly the same and if the additional holder isn't used it still fits in the cubbyhole perfectly
14fb35120bec6507e05b730ae14add78.jpg
As you can see in the pic I'm already running sport -1.
With the new one I'm switching between sport and sport -1 pickup and operation is smoother without any sign of hesitations and no problem on light throttle in traffic etc.
As Chris said he didn't think it'd warrant anyone who already has one to upgrade due to cost, but I can confirm the new unit is an improvement over the standard unit.
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The Remus box is the same as the old style DTUK box that they used to sell (maybe they still do?). Does it have the nasty old style clip, or have they updated it to the proper VW one as per the DTUK version?
That's a very good point. Is it the old dodgy grey clip or new oem style red clip. I have the old clip version.
This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
after using both the pedalbox and the pedalbox + is have to agree, the plus is more refined and the "perfect tune" makes things that touch better again.
Just found this on the R forum...
As a few of you will know I now have a pedal box plus fitted to my R.
Having had 3 of the standard type pedal box I was never blown away with it.
I found it to be really good when going for it but had issues where it was either on or off on light throttle.
Other issues I had were on light throttle I could feel a hesitation at certain speeds.
Having had 3 of them I could rule out a faulty unit and could work around this problem by running a pretty tame setting of Sport -2 or -3
This still eliminated the dead spot but made me wonder why I had it if using on a very low setting.
I sold my unit only last week and then while browsing the net found dtuk had released a pedalbox + unit.
After talking to Chris I asked the difference and his reply was that the new unit is smoother in operation and obviously looked much nicer.
I ordered it and it came the next day
Having now done 40 miles with the new one fitted I can confirm that fitting is exactly the same and if the additional holder isn't used it still fits in the cubbyhole perfectly
14fb35120bec6507e05b730ae14add78.jpg
As you can see in the pic I'm already running sport -1.
With the new one I'm switching between sport and sport -1 pickup and operation is smoother without any sign of hesitations and no problem on light throttle in traffic etc.
As Chris said he didn't think it'd warrant anyone who already has one to upgrade due to cost, but I can confirm the new unit is an improvement over the standard unit.
No question Andy and I have bias , this unit is the 'dogs' Ok in sport + you need to be gentle in traffic, light footed. I'm using sport for now but will know Sport + +3! Is always available. Truth is factory build in delay with fly by wire. I guess for safety reasons ? This unit acts as fast as your brain to foot, far safer for sure when getting onto busy roundabouts or out of junctions. Recommended.
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The Remus box is the same as the old style DTUK box that they used to sell (maybe they still do?). Does it have the nasty old style clip, or have they updated it to the proper VW one as per the DTUK version?
That's a very good point. Is it the old dodgy grey clip or new oem style red clip. I have the old clip version.
This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
after using both the pedalbox and the pedalbox + is have to agree, the plus is more refined and the "perfect tune" makes things that touch better again.
Just found this on the R forum...
As a few of you will know I now have a pedal box plus fitted to my R.
Having had 3 of the standard type pedal box I was never blown away with it.
I found it to be really good when going for it but had issues where it was either on or off on light throttle.
Other issues I had were on light throttle I could feel a hesitation at certain speeds.
Having had 3 of them I could rule out a faulty unit and could work around this problem by running a pretty tame setting of Sport -2 or -3
This still eliminated the dead spot but made me wonder why I had it if using on a very low setting.
I sold my unit only last week and then while browsing the net found dtuk had released a pedalbox + unit.
After talking to Chris I asked the difference and his reply was that the new unit is smoother in operation and obviously looked much nicer.
I ordered it and it came the next day
Having now done 40 miles with the new one fitted I can confirm that fitting is exactly the same and if the additional holder isn't used it still fits in the cubbyhole perfectly
14fb35120bec6507e05b730ae14add78.jpg
As you can see in the pic I'm already running sport -1.
With the new one I'm switching between sport and sport -1 pickup and operation is smoother without any sign of hesitations and no problem on light throttle in traffic etc.
As Chris said he didn't think it'd warrant anyone who already has one to upgrade due to cost, but I can confirm the new unit is an improvement over the standard unit.
No question Andy and I have no bias , this unit is the 'dogs' Ok in sport + you need to be gentle in traffic, light footed. I'm using sport for now but will know Sport + +3! Is always available. Truth is factory build in delay with fly by wire. I guess for safety reasons ? This unit acts as fast as your brain to foot, far safer for sure when getting onto busy roundabouts or out of junctions. Recommended.
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The Remus box is the same as the old style DTUK box that they used to sell (maybe they still do?). Does it have the nasty old style clip, or have they updated it to the proper VW one as per the DTUK version?
That's a very good point. Is it the old dodgy grey clip or new oem style red clip. I have the old clip version.
This is a good discount for this unit but have say if I was buying a pedal box now I'd be going for the DTUK Pedal Box Plus.
after using both the pedalbox and the pedalbox + is have to agree, the plus is more refined and the "perfect tune" makes things that touch better again.
Just found this on the R forum...
As a few of you will know I now have a pedal box plus fitted to my R.
Having had 3 of the standard type pedal box I was never blown away with it.
I found it to be really good when going for it but had issues where it was either on or off on light throttle.
Other issues I had were on light throttle I could feel a hesitation at certain speeds.
Having had 3 of them I could rule out a faulty unit and could work around this problem by running a pretty tame setting of Sport -2 or -3
This still eliminated the dead spot but made me wonder why I had it if using on a very low setting.
I sold my unit only last week and then while browsing the net found dtuk had released a pedalbox + unit.
After talking to Chris I asked the difference and his reply was that the new unit is smoother in operation and obviously looked much nicer.
I ordered it and it came the next day
Having now done 40 miles with the new one fitted I can confirm that fitting is exactly the same and if the additional holder isn't used it still fits in the cubbyhole perfectly
14fb35120bec6507e05b730ae14add78.jpg
As you can see in the pic I'm already running sport -1.
With the new one I'm switching between sport and sport -1 pickup and operation is smoother without any sign of hesitations and no problem on light throttle in traffic etc.
As Chris said he didn't think it'd warrant anyone who already has one to upgrade due to cost, but I can confirm the new unit is an improvement over the standard unit.
That'll be marshy on VWROC forum. He's had more pedal boxes than I've had??? Anyway, he never got along with the non plus version but since fitting the DTUK Pedal Box Plus it's been all quiet from him so that must be a good sign. :grin: I've never experienced what he did with the older unit and it's still doing what it should and is still by some distance the best thing I've added to my car, but I can't see why anyone buying a new unit now wouldn't opt for the pedal box plus, for the sake of a few quid.
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Just wondering if they are detected by dealer/ecu etc?
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Just wondering if they are detected by dealer/ecu etc?
Pedal boxes? Absolutely not. Remaps of any kind, yeah.
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Just wondering if they are detected by dealer/ecu etc?
Mine in for service today, pedal box switched off but left in driver's side cubby with microfibre chucked over it. Dealer non the wiser. Couldn't switch it back on fast enough. Car crap without it.
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Just wondering if they are detected by dealer/ecu etc?
Mine in for service today, pedal box switched off but left in driver's side cubby with microfibre chucked over it. Dealer non the wiser. Couldn't switch it back on fast enough. Car crap without it.
Completely agree. I've said it before, I could not own the R without one of these. The pedal is dead without one. But i suppose if someone has never used one, they are none the wiser so can understand the scepticism.
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The Remus Responder arrived early Friday morning, giving me the idea opportunity to fit it Friday afternoon in our product testing / detailing bay here at work.
Installation was a breeze, didn’t need to remove either the trim plate or cubby box as I was able to drop the cables down the back of the cubby box and then it was a case of simply swapping the plugs.
I’ve been playing around with it all weekend and have settled on Sport +1 for daily driving as it’s nice and smooth in stop / start traffic with improved pick-up.
As others have commented a pedal box make such a noticeable difference for the better. This is how VW performance cars should come out of the factory!
Also had a quick go in Race mode (Sports Plus) which was fun and would be awesome on a smooth track, with all the slack taken away I can now actually hear the throttle blips when I heel and toe coming down the box. :grin:
Conclusion: If you are even slightly tempted just go ahead and do it, you won’t be disappointed regardless of which type / brand of pedal box you go for. :wink:
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I have manual 7.5 non PP on order and am tempted by a pedal box. Everyone seems to have a very high opinion here. Are there are other factors to consider? Do they cause faster wear and tear (I’m guessing no more than would be associated with driving a bit more aggressively)? Assume they need declaring on insurance, do they affect premiums much?
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I have manual 7.5 non PP on order and am tempted by a pedal box. Everyone seems to have a very high opinion here. Are there are other factors to consider? Do they cause faster wear and tear (I’m guessing no more than would be associated with driving a bit more aggressively)? Assume they need declaring on insurance, do they affect premiums much?
You don't need to be aggressive to get the benefit, it justs makes the car more responsive so I can't think of why they would cause any more wear and tear. You should declare it on your insurance but I would advise asking your insurer first as they may not want to cover you with it (LV refused to quote me) however my current insurer was fine and no change to my premium (Direct Line). I have the standard DTUK version and would not want to take it off now, it makes such a positive difference.
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I have manual 7.5 non PP on order and am tempted by a pedal box. Everyone seems to have a very high opinion here. Are there are other factors to consider? Do they cause faster wear and tear (I’m guessing no more than would be associated with driving a bit more aggressively)? Assume they need declaring on insurance, do they affect premiums much?
You don't need to be aggressive to get the benefit, it justs makes the car more responsive so I can't think of why they would cause any more wear and tear. You should declare it on your insurance but I would advise asking your insurer first as they may not want to cover you with it (LV refused to quote me) however my current insurer was fine and no change to my premium (Direct Line). I have the standard DTUK version and would not want to take it off now, it makes such a positive difference.
Indeed.
Being aggressive is not what the pedalbox is about. It won't wear anything out any quicker but might empty your fuel tank a little quicker if you use it to aid the fun factor!
It's low to medium throttle inputs (everyday driving) where the pedalbox makes the car come to life.
It's like comparing a steel toed workboot to a trendy knitted Nike lightweight trainer and going for a run.
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Mine came yesterday.....and I missed the delivery :rolleyes: it so rescheduled it for today. Came and I fitted it in 5minutes and impressed with the difference already. It will be staying in sport mode permanently as I like the response from it. As others have said, I should have got one years ago.