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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: greencode on 16 August 2017, 12:25

Title: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: greencode on 16 August 2017, 12:25
Has anybody heard of this or have one http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lly10Gt94ugJ:www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/volkswagen-connect+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b

Just noticed it on the HUKD website as VW are giving it away free: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/volkswagen-dataplug-free-during-promotion-normally-80-2766027
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: TwoSheds on 16 August 2017, 12:48
I'm using one and its useful for logging business miles apart from the other interesting information it provides to your phone.

It costs nothing..


Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: phope on 16 August 2017, 16:26
Interesting - passing by my dealer tomorrow, so will ask about it and see if I can get a free one
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: Exonian on 16 August 2017, 16:57
A good way for VW to spy on you...  :whistle:
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: fredgroves on 16 August 2017, 17:54
Don't BMW have this crap installed in their vehicles anyway? Apparently its so you can be told about servicing.... yeah right.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: Finglonga on 16 August 2017, 18:23
A good way for VW to spy on you...  :whistle:

Exactly, the AA are also trying to get people to have one and many will not realising how much information they are farming from you. I will pass thanks. Got one yesterday to see the crack with it as it is easily removed if not wanted or as soon as I start getting spam for servicing!
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: phope on 17 August 2017, 17:42
To be honest, I'm far happier with VWs data privacy policies compared to the free for all that seems to be the case with American companies like Google & Facebook

The automatic service appointment settings can be turned off anyway, if thats your concern. The other app features such as driving style analysis are no more intrusive than the insurance company apps that are commonplace, my dashcam already records speed and GPS location in case of accident so it's no worry to me, especially coming from a job where virtually every keystroke on my computer is logged, and all phone calls are recorded for audit purposes

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Anyway, picked up two devices today from the dealer for free - plug & play as you'd expect, I'm sure the app will get more features added over time and the mileage logs/fuel tracking features alone will save me a stack of time each month for doing my expense claims for work

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Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: phope on 17 August 2017, 17:47
Plus all new cars built after 2018 need to have accident & emergency location tracking features as standard so these type of apps will become commonplace, with no need for the dongles going forward

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: greencode on 18 August 2017, 15:13
Don't bother with Parkway in Leicester. Absolute bulls*****s. Called them and they said they need to book me in as they need to go through it and program it to my car! Oh well, not really worth it anyway.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: david25 on 18 August 2017, 16:27
Colchester have them, just ask for Parts and no questions asked.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: greencode on 18 August 2017, 18:32
Finally got one from Robinsons in Stamford.

Whilst I was there I asked them about the service intervals and service plans available for my 2017 MK7 R. Was told complete lies! He said it was 20,000 or 2 years for the first service but this Connect App has already proved to be useful as it states 212 days until my first service so 1 year or 20,000 miles for the service and 1 year or 10,000-ish miles for the first oil service.

Does anybody at VW know what they're talking about?!
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: jv on 18 August 2017, 19:09
Bit of PR for you:

Free Dataplug is available from Volkswagen Retailers
Delivers connected car features to Volkswagens built after 2008*
Dataplug is free until 2018; Volkswagen Connect app free forever
Volkswagen Connect is now available from selected Volkswagen Retailers nationwide. Using a Dataplug and the Volkswagen Connect app, drivers will be able to access a wide range of information about their car and their journeys, and they can contact their Retailer or call Volkswagen customer support quickly and efficiently.

Volkswagen’s Car-Net system brings the benefits of internet connectivity into new Volkswagen models. Now Volkswagen Connect brings a variety of useful connectivity functions to cars built from 2008*. This is achieved via the simple retro-fitting of a Dataplug that connects via Bluetooth to the customer’s mobile phone. The result is the convenience for the customer of having their car connected to their mobile smartphone.

Step one to accessing this service is for customers to collect a Dataplug from their local participating Retailer. These plugs are being offered free until the end of this year. The Retailer will also fit the device to the car in a process that takes just a couple of minutes. To activate its features, the customer needs to download the Volkswagen Connect mobile smartphone app¹.

With the Dataplug and the app linked together via Bluetooth, the possibilities created by Volkswagen Connect are in the user’s hands. The car sends the user’s smartphone a burst of information at the end of each journey, which means there is no drain on the phone’s data. With the connection set up, the customer can interact with their Volkswagen in seven distinct areas.

First is the Trips function. This records information about each journey the driver takes, including the miles driven and the average fuel consumption measured in miles per gallon.

This works with the Fuel Monitor to give an accurate figure for the cost of every journey by comparing the miles per gallon figure with the cost of the fuel in the car. That information can be downloaded to a computer thus, for instance, potentially increasing the speed and accuracy of claiming expenses for mileage.

As well as understanding how much fuel has been used on a journey, the dataplug will send information to the connected smartphone about the way the car was driven. Known as Driving Style, this area of the app can save the customer money by offering advice on driving in a more fuel efficient manner.

A suite of options appears in the My Volkswagen area of the Volkswagen Connect app. The vehicle’s fuel level can be checked with ease and the customer can see when the car’s next service is likely to be due.

An extension of this is the Service Partner function. When the car is due for a service, it will automatically alert the driver through the app. If set up to do so it will also contact the customer’s nominated Volkswagen Retailer, who will then call the driver to arrange a service. Of course, the customer can opt out of this function. Additionally, if a warning light is illuminated on the dashboard the Volkswagen Connect app will pass this information to the Retailer, who can then call the customer to discuss the car’s problem. The app will also explain in plain English what the warning light means.

If the customer needs assistance, for example if they have broken down, they can use Volkswagen Connect to quickly call their preferred roadside assistance service. The Assistance Call function also provides a link to Volkswagen customer services so the driver can ask any questions they may have about their Volkswagen. To smooth the flow of all these conversations, the location of the car can be shared easily via text or email.

Volkswagen Connect is all about using information that is already present within the car and making it available to the customer. A further example of this is the Parking Space section of the app. It records the exact location of the car when it is parked, therefore potentially helping to reduce stress and save time when the driver wants to return to their vehicle.

Building on the functional elements of the Volkswagen Connect app is the My Challenges feature. This is a fun game that rewards drivers with points, depending on their driving style. They can also accomplish tasks related to safe and efficient driving and win virtual trophies, as well as unlock new tasks and compare their scores with other Volkswagen drivers.

All of these functions are provided without charge, and Volkswagen is developing the Volkswagen Connect app all the time. From the start of next year, the app will continue to be free but a nominal charge for the Dataplug may be introduced. However, customers can take their Dataplug from compatible Volkswagen to Volkswagen, a benefit that is also of use for fleets where drivers may have access to more than one Volkswagen vehicle.

David McMillan, Volkswagen’s Digital Service Product Manager, said: “Volkswagen Connect is an exciting addition to customer’s cars. We know that our customers enjoy ease of use and Volkswagen Connect assists with this because it brings the information that is already available within the car to the customer’s mobile phone app.”

McMillan continued: “We want to encourage customers to download the app and enjoy the benefits that it brings. Additionally, until the end of the year, Volkswagen Connect will also be offered in all used cars supplied through Volkswagen’s award-winning ‘Das WeltAuto’ approved used car scheme.”

For more details on Volkswagen Connect, and Volkswagen’s Car-Net, please visit www.volkswagen.co.uk.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: Watts on 18 August 2017, 20:10
Do people really want this? Even for free? So it tells you what is available already on the car's own computer, tells you how to drive better (obviously of no use to me, I'm brilliant already :wink:), will book a service for you, remind you where you parked your car and awards you points if you drive how it wants you to. I wouldn't waste my time and fuel to go and get one.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 August 2017, 20:41
For what it's worth I asked Listers Coventry about it and all you have to do is ask at reception and tell them how many you need.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: SRGTD on 18 August 2017, 20:55
Do people really want this? Even for free? So it tells you what is available already on the car's own computer, tells you how to drive better (obviously of no use to me, I'm brilliant already :wink:), will book a service for you, remind you where you parked your car and awards you points if you drive how it wants you to. I wouldn't waste my time and fuel to go and get one.

I think I can manage without it too. I can remember when my car is due for a service and if I did forget, my car will remind me anyway. I can also remember where I've parked it and as you say, most of the other information provided is already available via the car's computer.
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: david25 on 19 August 2017, 09:58
Agreed, however a hack turning this into a free Bluetooth OBD II Adapter would be great!
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: Talk-torque on 19 August 2017, 13:25
Agreed, however a hack turning this into a free Bluetooth OBD II Adapter would be great!

You can do that? 😃👍
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: Mk1Macca on 21 August 2017, 21:10
So am I reading that right, does it actually offer any further functionality than the 7.5 already does with car net built in?
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on 21 August 2017, 21:41
What is that saying?

If your not paying for the product, you are the product.


Or something like that... :wink:
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: fredgroves on 21 August 2017, 22:35
Pretty much that's true.

More than the data that the car has already, the app on your phone will provide stuff VW don't have without it. It will all be in the application permissions, you know this because you did pay attention didn't you ;-)
Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 22 August 2017, 10:55
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Title: Re: VW Connect and DataPlug?
Post by: phope on 22 August 2017, 16:27
Let's be realistic here - you're dealing with a German company here, and privacy laws in Germany are rather strict for historical reasons (think of attitudes to the Stasi and you'll see why there is lot of resistance in Germany to mass data collection), to the extent that services that people in the UK take for granted like Google Streetview and use of dash cams are greatly restricted

I did look at the privacy statement in the app and the data collector/processor is Volkswagen AG itself, so you'd think the app and use of data would be compliant with the latest GDPR data protection directives

It will use GPS to log journey information in the app, and it can access Photos if you choose to change the profile picture of the car in the app and Phone if you need to use the emergency call functions or breakdown recovery from within the app. Bluetooth is a given, as the dongle itself connects via Bluetooth, and WiFi/Mobile data because you can interact with the app when not driving. Nothing nefarious, one might say.

If that bothers you, then either don't install it in the first place, or tweak the privacy settings

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