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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: candywhite12 on 15 August 2017, 14:55
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like the topic says. Final choice I got to make before getting a new car. Had a GTI DSG for 7 years, thoroughly enjoyed it -- except when the mechatronics unit broke down and i had to wait for 2 months till it got replaced under warranty, and except right before i sold the car when it sometimes did not engage a gear and i had to switch the car off and on again. Before and after that i've had a stick on my GT and now on my 1.2 Polo :whistle: Major DSG plus for me is the puddle shifts which i totally dig, major minus is the constant fear of breaking down and also service costs.
Any ideas from people who've tried both - or one - on the R, are greatly appreciated, especially in terms of DGS dependability on the mk7.
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Your cranky DSG was that the same wet DSG6 on the Mk7 or the crappy dry DSG unit used by VAG?
The dry one is a nightmare by all accounts, but then again we've only seen Mk7 DSG's for what, just under 4 years? Maybe too soon to see long term problems. I know it needs a service at 3 years.
Obviously manual is simpler but even a manual gearbox is a complex thing and after time could present problems.
BTW, I think in general terms, the DSG Mk7's are considered to be cracking technology to drive, assuming that you aren't a control freak ;-)
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Everyone who has had a DSG says it's the best thing in the world, ever.
So if you've had a DSG and liked it then stick with a DSG. It's the best thing in the world, ever.
Besides the manual gearboxes on Golf R's have notoriously crap clutches, especially if you plan on tuning.
I never had any issues with my tuned R clutch but then again there has to be a reason they put the manual R ECU in a steel cage and yet the DSG one is in a plastic holder - tune at your peril!!
Did I say I had a manual? Yes, I did. Manual all the way for me.
Yes in a standing start race the DSG R would be half way to John O'Groats by the time my manual car was out of Lands End car park but hey ho.
I even like stop start in a manual. It's great!
Control freak? Moi?
Yes. Yes I am. So much so that when I get reincarnated I'm going to come back as a despot dictator in the next life.
And gay, I'm coming back gay next time too as gay people have much more fun. Well the look like they do anyway.
Yep, a gay despot dictator in some dystopian future society. Watch out world!
Can I have my meds now please nurse.
Oh, yeah, stick with DSG and embrace the future.
And I'm sticking with manual until I get an electric car
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NURSE!
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DSG is the best thing in the world, ever.
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DSG is the best thing in the world, ever.
Except it is not
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Having had a manual S3 as a courtesy car a few months back, I would say DSG is the only way to go with that much power and grip. Keep both hands on the wheel and concentrate on steering and braking and leave the gearbox to sort out which gear to be in.
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Having had a manual S3 as a courtesy car a few months back, I would say DSG is the only way to go with that much power and grip. Keep both hands on the wheel and concentrate on steering and braking and leave the gearbox to sort out which gear to be in.
Indeed, I loved DSG from first experience and agree with this R no way do I want one hand on the wheel,unless I'm cruising with an elbow out the window. I worked in F1 from 80 to 85 manual is all they had. Wonder why they they don't still use it. Speed and Control.
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DSG is the best thing in the world, ever.
Except it is not
Sorry Rhyso but your opinion is wrong :grin:
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I also think this is down to how many miles you do a year and what type of roads you drive on. If I was doing loads of miles and was using it in and around town where you'd be constantly changing gear then I'd have probably have gone for the DSG. I only do around 5,000 miles a year varying from country roads to town to motorway and so I wanted something a bit more engaging and fun and I have that in the manual gearbox.
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Speaking as a Yorkshireman, I was just too tight to spend the money :laugh:
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DSG does suit the R and I think works really well with the ACC, when I had the manual Polo and two DSG Rs I found the Polo was getting used less and less as a daily as for daily grind for me it was losing its appeal. so it got replaced for a R estate, for something more engaging I bought the M2
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Manual for me :smiley:
The very fact that the DSG offers more than one way of changing gear puts me off as I find I'm constantly switching between paddle shift, gear lever shift or just plain old auto. Way too many decisions to make at my age.
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I also think this is down to how many miles you do a year and what type of roads you drive on. If I was doing loads of miles and was using it in and around town where you'd be constantly changing gear then I'd have probably have gone for the DSG. I only do around 5,000 miles a year varying from country roads to town to motorway and so I wanted something a bit more engaging and fun and I have that in the manual gearbox.
Its around town that the box can be at its most annoying :sad: especially when approaching junctions / roundabouts and it can't decide whether to hold the gear you are in or change down
I can approach the same place at the same speed on separate occasions and the box will either hold the gear (which is what I would do) or it will change down
For the other 95% of the time its a fantastic piece of kit :smiley:
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Manual for me :smiley:
The very fact that the DSG offers more than one way of changing gear puts me off as I find I'm constantly switching between paddle shift, gear lever shift or just plain old auto. Way too many decisions to make at my age.
this is precisely what turns me on tbh :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Manual for me :smiley:
The very fact that the DSG offers more than one way of changing gear puts me off as I find I'm constantly switching between paddle shift, gear lever shift or just plain old auto. Way too many decisions to make at my age.
this is precisely what turns me on tbh :grin: :grin: :grin:
Each to their own I suppose
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The R with DSG is a perfect combo...creates the 'Playstation' experience which is quite fun.
My weekend car will definitely be a manual though when the time comes next year and the R can remain doing its daily duties with a bit of swagger.
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The manual in the Golf R is not to be sniffed at though. I have a manual shift in my Golf R and it is so silky smooth and effortless to use, it's a pure joy. Definitely the best manual shift I have ever used since learning to drive all those years ago.
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If you are buying new then the MK7.5 R will have the newer WET 7 speed DSG used by AUDI for some time now. Same as the 6 speed but with a 7th gear (all ratios different but 7th is higher than the 6s 6th so better mpg on the motorway).
I have has DSGs in 3 motors now and never experienced a single issue and will probably buy a MK8 R when the come out - with DSG - unless electric technology has moved on significantly by them - a 4 wheel drive GTi or R with electric motors on one axle would be an interesting proposition.