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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: wesbar on 13 August 2017, 21:49
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Hi. Apologies if this has been posted already but I just noticed that the super chips bluefin now works on all mk7's and not just pre 2015 cars. Seriously tempted to turn my mk7 into a clubsport! Has anyone any experience of this updated version? Will this be detectable by the dealer if i flash back to stock for servicing?
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I am looking to do the same thing on my Mk7.5 GTI when I get used to the power! Shame, because at the moment they are on sale.
But yes, it will 100% be detectable by VW, even once it is taken off. It is a risk you take for the performance.
The crucial factor really is whether the remap has a toll on the mechanical components of the car over time, or if it this toll is negligible enough to risk your own warranty. (detection of a remap will invalidate your drive train warranty).
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Hi. Apologies if this has been posted already but I just noticed that the super chips bluefin now works on all mk7's and not just pre 2015 cars. Seriously tempted to turn my mk7 into a clubsport! Has anyone any experience of this updated version? Will this be detectable by the dealer if i flash back to stock for servicing?
Yes it will be detectable, regardless whether its mapped on or taken off - they can see it was mapped.
Yes it will invalidate any warranty you may have left.
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Hi. Apologies if this has been posted already but I just noticed that the super chips bluefin now works on all mk7's and not just pre 2015 cars. Seriously tempted to turn my mk7 into a clubsport! Has anyone any experience of this updated version? Will this be detectable by the dealer if i flash back to stock for servicing?
Yes it will be detectable, regardless whether its mapped on or taken off - they can see it was mapped.
Yes it will invalidate any warranty you may have left.
It doesn't invalidate the warranty, they have to prove that the part/s failed because of the remap.
I've had this in the past with a broken driveshaft, they refused to cover it so I had my solicitor ask VW UK for proof that the map was the main cause of the part failing and like the independent technician we got they could not prove that the map was the main cause of the problem. VW paid the costs to both my solicitor and the technician.
You just need to be savvy about your rights and have a good solicitor which in my case is a friend.
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I think you got lucky there and also that the part that failed isn't as directly impacted in quite such a way to a power increase such as a turbo or pistons would be, would it?
Albeit the T&Cs don't explicitly state "Chipping your car will void warranty" there are 2 areas it could be applied too -
- Damage caused by your failure to take all reasonable steps to prevent mechanical damage from occurring, for example, taking appropriate action in the event of warning lights appearing.
- Damage or defects caused by improper use of the vehicle, neglect, or use of the vehicle for motor sports activities.
More so the first, preventing mechanical damage from happening. However, if the likes of superchips can attest that they have proof that the cars engine parts directly impacted have the tolerances to cater for the modification then I'd be a lot more comfortable than risking it.
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Thanks for the replies. Do they pick up the fact that it has been chipped during regular servicing or would they have to go specifically looking for it?
Still got 2 years warranty so might just wait another year or so.
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From what I've heard, it's an automatic check as soon as they plug it into the system to upload updates etc.
Google "VW TD1 Flag", should give loads more detail.
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As far as I know, in order for the dealership to obtain VW authorisation for any warranty work, you have to upload a diagnostic dump to the VW system. This data is a full readout on the car which is reviewed both automatically and manually before the authorisation is given.... at this point it *could* detect your map/tuning box either currently or previously installed.
I'd suggest that if the problem is something like a blown turbo it would come into consideration, but not for a broken windscreen washer pump...
But VW definitely do review all warranty claims electronically.
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Can they detect a pedalbox? Just had mine serviced and turned this off. Worried that this might leave a trace now!
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Can they detect a pedalbox? Just had mine serviced and turned this off. Worried that this might leave a trace now!
No, as it does not change the ecu in any way only the maps that go on top on the original map flag up.
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I think you got lucky there and also that the part that failed isn't as directly impacted in quite such a way to a power increase such as a turbo or pistons would be, would it?
Albeit the T&Cs don't explicitly state "Chipping your car will void warranty" there are 2 areas it could be applied too -
- Damage caused by your failure to take all reasonable steps to prevent mechanical damage from occurring, for example, taking appropriate action in the event of warning lights appearing.
- Damage or defects caused by improper use of the vehicle, neglect, or use of the vehicle for motor sports activities.
More so the first, preventing mechanical damage from happening. However, if the likes of superchips can attest that they have proof that the cars engine parts directly impacted have the tolerances to cater for the modification then I'd be a lot more comfortable than risking it.
I'll have to find out exactly what was said in their conversations but what Stuart said it boiled down to was that the only part that VW could refuse warranty on was the ECU because that was the only part that was modified. The other parts are deemed to be able to withstand the increas that a map would give.
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Spoke to Superchips today and the Bluefin is not compatible with my mk7.5.
Seems VW have changed something in how the ecu works (again). :undecided:
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Hi, you beat me to it, the ecu has been updated so it's harder to map due to software. Had bluefin on previous motor. Was impressed tbh, just a generic map, so removed went custom massive difference in power delivery.
Mk7 wise was tempted with Buger motorsports or jb4.In the end I went Apr and an uprated clutch. All is good don't know why I waited over a year to do.