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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: wantmygti on 25 July 2017, 08:44
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Thinking of getting a pedal box for the CS as the accelerator response just doesn't feel right at the moment.
Does anyone know the difference between the pedal box and the pedal box plus on the DTUK website?
Also, any decent discount codes out there?
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I have to admit I was skeptical about pedal boxes in the past, and even after discussions here with people that swear by it I haven't gone for it yet but after yesterday I'm seriously considering it. So, I'm approaching a roundabout, foot off throttle, 3rd gear, 25mph, there is a car already in the round-about but far enough for me to safely enter, still I don't like upsetting the other driver by entering too late. Now I know already that a bit of throttle is as good as nothing but anything over say 30% of pedal travel is too much for this particular occasion as I don't want to drive that quick and noisy in these conditions. Especially since running the JB1 the "take-off" after that initial dead pedal stage is more sudden than when I was stock. So I try to find the sweet spot, easy first and I'm coming in too slow, then I go a bit harder on the pedal and off-course, vrrrrr.... I blast away with much (unwanted for this occasion) drama.
This of-course wasn't the first time of this, it just happens to be more annoying lately, especially since I don't want to be driving like a nut in urban traffic. But because there is no linearity on the throttle it's nigh on impossible to get the right amount of throttle in situations like this. Am I correct in thinking a pedal box would cure that?
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Another issue, does the pedal box have any noticeable effect on stop/start?
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
None I would imagine, but there is a connection of sorts? Just a thought.
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Makes no difference on my manual GTD to the stop start.
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Thinking of getting a pedal box for the CS as the accelerator response just doesn't feel right at the moment.
Does anyone know the difference between the pedal box and the pedal box plus on the DTUK website?
Also, any decent discount codes out there?
The pedal box plus is just a new improved version of the pedal box. It is designed to work with newer cars that have digital SENT sensors such as some Audis. Our mk7's including the facelift still use analogue sensors but both available pedal boxes will work with our cars. The plus also has a better looking controller interface. Given the smallish £20 price increase, if I was buying now, I'd go for the pedal box plus.
Use code RF80 at top off the product page on dtuk website for discount. Brings pedal box plus price down to £179.
https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/systems_available.php?id=5239
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
Same here. Was the first OBDeleven adaptation done, swiftly followed by disabling headlight washers.
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
I need to find someone to do this as I'm only running iOS devices and from what I can gather it's android only software.
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
I need to find someone to do this as I'm only running iOS devices and from what I can gather it's android only software.
Just buy a cheapo Android tablet. I'm all Apple/ios household but got this for obdeleven duty and works well. Cheap at amazon atm.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Iconia-B1-780-7-Inch-Touchscreen/dp/B01JYT4B6Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1501001689&sr=1-1&keywords=acer+iconia+one+7
If you do get obdeleven get the Pro version which enables you to do long coding adaptations as well as using the apps. Buy direct from obdeleven. Compared to vcds, well worth the money.
https://obdeleven.com/en/
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
I need to find someone to do this as I'm only running iOS devices and from what I can gather it's android only software.
I was all iOS when I ordered my OBDeleven so I bought a Nexus 7 2nd gen tablet. Worked great on it.
I've now bought a Galaxy S8 plus so no longer need the tablet. :wink: :wink: so I'm going to sell it.
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
I need to find someone to do this as I'm only running iOS devices and from what I can gather it's android only software.
I was all iOS when I ordered my OBDeleven so I bought a Nexus 7 2nd gen tablet. Worked great on it.
I've now bought a Galaxy S8 plus so no longer need the tablet. :wink: :wink: so I'm going to sell it.
Sent you a message
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I permanently turned mine off since day 1 but what sort of effect would it have?
How did you do this? OBDEleven?
Yeap, changing the start/stop voltage to 12v makes that utterly pointless and borderline dangerous feature go away for good and you swear less in your daily communte.
I need to find someone to do this as I'm only running iOS devices and from what I can gather it's android only software.
I was all iOS when I ordered my OBDeleven so I bought a Nexus 7 2nd gen tablet. Worked great on it.
I've now bought a Galaxy S8 plus so no longer need the tablet. :wink: :wink: so I'm going to sell it.
Sent you a message
And back.
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How hard is it to use the obd eleven software? What way does the long coding work? Thanks
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I don't have a pedal box. However, I have read a lot about them.
My problem is - every time I mention them to an insurance company they don't seem to understand. Then because of the 'performance' modification, they increase my premiums accordingly. Resulting in me deciding it is not worth the extra money. Or the risk of fitting one and giving 'them' an excuse to invalidate my insurance.
Yet pedal boxes seem quite popular. So how do other people manage with insurance? Or do you simply take the attitude - easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission?
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I don't have a pedal box. However, I have read a lot about them.
My problem is - every time I mention them to an insurance company they don't seem to understand. Then because of the 'performance' modification, they increase my premiums accordingly. Resulting in me deciding it is not worth the extra money. Or the risk of fitting one and giving 'them' an excuse to invalidate my insurance.
Yet pedal boxes seem quite popular. So how do other people manage with insurance? Or do you simply take the attitude - easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission?
I had no bother at all with my insurer, I explained what it did and that it did not alter the power of the car and they were quite happy. It has been noted but no change to my premium. And it is well worth it with a much better response but as I'm used to it, controlability too. When on the odd occasion it is switched off the car feels dead.
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will these cause any issue with warranty with the recent post about tuning boxes being flagged in the ECU will this have the same effect ?
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recent post about tuning boxes being flagged in the ECU will this have the same effect ?
Not true but which post was that anyways?
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This thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280858.0
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I don't have a pedal box. However, I have read a lot about them.
My problem is - every time I mention them to an insurance company they don't seem to understand. Then because of the 'performance' modification, they increase my premiums accordingly. Resulting in me deciding it is not worth the extra money. Or the risk of fitting one and giving 'them' an excuse to invalidate my insurance.
Yet pedal boxes seem quite popular. So how do other people manage with insurance? Or do you simply take the attitude - easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission?
I had no bother at all with my insurer, I explained what it did and that it did not alter the power of the car and they were quite happy. It has been noted but no change to my premium. And it is well worth it with a much better response but as I'm used to it, controlability too. When on the odd occasion it is switched off the car feels dead.
Same here, my tuning box cost me an extra £27 though.
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This thread
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280858.0
That one seems like the already known directive to dealers since 2013 I think. At least talking about the JB1 there have been warranty claims (for blown engines and turbos) from JB1 users after that directive was out and not one of them got rejected due to "voided warranty". There was an explanation from the guy from Burger Motorsports as to why it is not possible to identify a JB1/4 and hence why no claims have ever been rejected but it's a long time since I read it and it was quite technical. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this.
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Thanks for the info. I've ordered the pedal box plus from DTUK will be here tomorrow :-)
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Thanks for the info. I've ordered the pedal box plus from DTUK will be here tomorrow :-)
Keep us posted on your thoughts etc
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So it arrived
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It took no longer than 5 mins to install if i was doing it again i would removed the little storage compartment near your right knee first as you get a better view and access to the top of the pedal.
Tucked away out of sight
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Not had chance to give it a proper test but i can defiantly feel the difference i nearly launched the car off the drive :grin:
Ill try and get some videos of how it effects the rev range on each program when i get a chance.
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I would be very interested in your findings with this. I have the dtuk box on my car and was thinking of one of these also. Looks very well.
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Not had chance to give it a proper test but i can defiantly feel the difference i nearly launched the car off the drive :grin:
The first few goes until you learn to moderate your right foot can be a bit hairy! Have fun, it makes such a difference.
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Definitely recommend removing the cubby box and you g through there. Took me 2 minutes to fit mine.
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I much prefer the look of the new controller
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I much prefer the look of the new controller
I haven't seen mine since the second last time the car was in the dealers a few months ago, I forgot to turn it off the last time the car was in.
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I don't have a pedal box. However, I have read a lot about them.
My problem is - every time I mention them to an insurance company they don't seem to understand. Then because of the 'performance' modification, they increase my premiums accordingly. Resulting in me deciding it is not worth the extra money. Or the risk of fitting one and giving 'them' an excuse to invalidate my insurance.
Yet pedal boxes seem quite popular. So how do other people manage with insurance? Or do you simply take the attitude - easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission?
I had no bother at all with my insurer, I explained what it did and that it did not alter the power of the car and they were quite happy. It has been noted but no change to my premium. And it is well worth it with a much better response but as I'm used to it, controlability too. When on the odd occasion it is switched off the car feels dead.
Well this is coming back to bite me on the bottom. Direct Line, who are being pretty pants in dealing with my accident claim in January, have upped the premium on my renewal by over 40% :angry: this year. So, first attempt to get a quote was with LV who declined me as they considered a pedal box an engine modification which they won't touch. Bugger. But it's not coming off :whistle:
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Well this is coming back to bite me on the bottom. Direct Line, who are being pretty pants in dealing with my accident claim in January, have upped the premium on my renewal by over 40% :angry: this year. So, first attempt to get a quote was with LV who declined me as they considered a pedal box an engine modification which they won't touch. Bugger. But it's not coming off :whistle:
LV are normally reasonably mod friendly up to a point so that's odd.
Admiral allow a certain amount of mods but can be a bit fussy.
The insurance on these cars has gone up quite a lot in the last year or two, maybe because the amount of R's stolen outweighs the amount of rear enders avoided by the radar.
My R was under £200 to insure with engine mods and pedalbox, plus bigger wheels yet the GTD and GTI CS were about 25% more than that, possibly more and both only had a pedalbox. I can't remember the exact figures now.
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I was rather surprised. DL are also charging me as if my accident was my fault until agreed otherwise which is very annoying and it's unlikely to be concluded until the end of the year. I'd have been better off sorting the damage myself at this rate having already coughed up £300 towards it, can't see me getting that back either :angry:
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I was rather surprised. DL are also charging me as if my accident was my fault until agreed otherwise which is very annoying and it's unlikely to be concluded until the end of the year. I'd have been better off sorting the damage myself at this rate having already coughed up £300 towards it, can't see me getting that back either :angry:
Watts, unfortunately if the other party haven't yet admitted liability for the damage to your car, even though it wasn't your fault, your insurer will have treated it as an 'at fault' claim, and if you don't have protected no claims discount (NCD), your NCD will have been reduced accordingly. That tends to be standard practice with non-fault claims, if your insurer is waiting for admission of liability from the other party.
Once your insurer has evidence that the other party was responsible for the damage, you should get your £300 back - assuming that was the amount of the excess under your policy that you had to pay - and your NCD should be reinstated.
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I was rather surprised. DL are also charging me as if my accident was my fault until agreed otherwise which is very annoying and it's unlikely to be concluded until the end of the year. I'd have been better off sorting the damage myself at this rate having already coughed up £300 towards it, can't see me getting that back either :angry:
Watts I'm in the same situation from my hit and run last year which is still unresolved and an ongoing claim a year later. Also DL. It's down as a 'my fault' claim (I have protected no claims) until the liability of the other party can be claimed. When my renewal came up in Sept my premium increased on the previous year by over £200, which I managed to get down them to drop by £100 just by basically begging on the phone. If the third party is identified (unlikely) then I will get my excess back and the premium will be adjusted and applied retrospectively. The damage to my car was nearing £4K and everything was reported to Police.
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Thanks for the responses both, I do have protected no claims which was why I was disappointed with such a steep rise. Booth, sorry to hear about yours still being ongoing. I was going to phone them but wasn't expecting them to budge at all so your success is encouraging. Not expecting the lorry driver to admit fault though but if he does, will enjoy spending my £300 on a cracking night out and a massive hangover :laugh: