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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Mag_Pie on 11 July 2017, 10:52
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Lately I've been having thoughts about the MK7.5, I'm not in a rush to have the latest model but at the same time I do like the idea of the latest and greatest version with the latest tech etc. Now maybe the MK8 will turn up or not be far off by the time I decide what I'm doing and that got me thinking would the MK7.5 suddenly get more loaded with toys to clear the shelves so too speak? In the past haven't VW made leather interior standard towards the end? I know you'd be buying the old model but wouldn't you have more chance of any issues being ironed out instead of the new model where we suddenly become the real world testers and start to find problems and odd occurances?
Just my thought of the day.
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Usually, but it's not always free, sometimes it's at a "knock-down" price (e.g. Tech Pack on late Mk7s).
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Pretty sure the MK8 gti is at least 2-3 years away...so if you can wait that long :wink:
I think the 7,5 has really nailed it and reached a peak design wise....I think in the long term future ( I mean 10-15 years) when they have solved the battery range and weight issues the GTI will be fully electric, maybe I will have to upgrade then out of neccesity (bad spelling I know :smiley:) but for now I am planning on keeping the 7,5 for as long as possible, as long as the availaibility and price of petrol doesnt become prohibitive when the electric revolution comes.
What are your thoughts folks on the longevity of petrol and all this electric hocus pocus?
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Pretty sure the MK8 gti is at least 2-3 years away...so if you can wait that long :wink:
I think the 7,5 has really nailed it and reached a peak design wise....I think in the long term future ( I mean 10-15 years) when they have solved the battery range and weight issues the GTI will be fully electric, maybe I will have to upgrade then out of neccesity (bad spelling I know :smiley:) but for now I am planning on keeping the 7,5 for as long as possible, as long as the availaibility and price of petrol doesnt become prohibitive when the electric revolution comes.
What are your thoughts folks on the longevity of petrol and all this electric hocus pocus?
Electric infrastructure has a long way to go before it's a viable option for many. We're likely to see mass hybridisation and electric city centres first.
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In the U.K. the electric charging infrastructure leaves a LOT to be desired. For me, an electric car without a 300 mile (and realistic 250 mile) range is a complete non-starter for some of my trips. However, I could on this basic change my GTI for a GTE as I have another petrol car but for me the compromise just doesn't stack up for now. Nor does a 7.5 GTI, even though it would cost me less now than I paid in 2013 for a car with a better spec.
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In the U.K. the electric charging infrastructure leaves a LOT to be desired. For me, an electric car without a 300 mile (and realistic 250 mile) range is a complete non-starter for some of my trips. However, I could on this basic change my GTI for a GTE as I have another petrol car but for me the compromise just doesn't stack up for now. Nor does a 7.5 GTI, even though it would cost me less now than I paid in 2013 for a car with a better spec.
Hi Moro.....out of interest, why does a 7.5 'not stack up'?
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Runout Mk5's and Mk6's gained leather interior as standard but runout Mk7's did not. Mk7's gained sat nav, winter pack and keyless entry about 18 months or so before production ended, however list price did increase.
This time around VW were offering significantly increased finance contributions to shift the last of the Mk7's.
EV's are here to stay, for good or for bad they're a key part of VW's future strategy and will eventually feature throughout the Golf range, either in hybrid or mild hybrid form, or as full on EV's. I would imagine at some point we may begin to see a large overlap between the GTE and the GTI, so it would be interesting to see how or if VW plans to accommodate them both in the range.
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Runout Mk5's and Mk6's gained leather interior as standard but runout Mk7's did not. Mk7's gained sat nav, winter pack and keyless entry about 18 months or so before production ended, however list price did increase.
Interesting that they added this to the Mk7 then took keyless back off for the Mk7.5 but kept the sat nav and winter pack. Keyless would have been nice - my only dislike of keyless is that when you approach the car at night, the coming home lights aren't activated until you grab a door handle. So you end up using the key a lot in the winter months.
The Mk7.5 is pretty well kitted out, not as good as my W205 C Class was but I'm not missing anything yet, other than the rear camera. But I've got 50 bhp extra to keep me happy :smiley: :smiley:
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The mk7 pre FL just gained a £3k price drop to clear the decks as the car was selling so well still they didn't need any massive incentives. Once Ford and Merc and BMW have released all new models around the time of the mk7 FL winding down production we may see VW load the cars with extras or we may just see another big discount to clear stocks. It will depend largely on how well the cars are still selling and what side of bed VW UK get out of what sort of incentives they put on.
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The mk7 pre FL just gained a £3k price drop to clear the decks as the car was selling so well still they didn't need any massive incentives. Once Ford and Merc and BMW have released all new models around the time of the mk7 FL winding down production we may see VW load the cars with extras or we may just see another big discount to clear stocks. It will depend largely on how well the cars are still selling and what side of bed VW UK get out of what sort of incentives they put on.
3k and the rest, some got their cars for 22k and some change, a bargain.
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Yes it was £3250 off the list price for the pre facelift Golfs before any haggling even started. The only downside was that you only had existing stock to choose from
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I'm on the MK7 GTD and my mind keeps going one way then the other. Some days I think I've been stuck behind slow traffic and not even benefitted from the power I already have, and then others when I'm sat waiting for the DPF regen to finish which makes me late getting into work I think I really want to go back to petrol! I don't think I'm doing the mileage and I'm slowly killing it with regular regens needed.
The warranty will be up in November as well.
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I'm on the MK7 GTD and my mind keeps going one way then the other. Some days I think I've been stuck behind slow traffic and not even benefitted from the power I already have, and then others when I'm sat waiting for the DPF regen to finish which makes me late getting into work I think I really want to go back to petrol! I don't think I'm doing the mileage and I'm slowly killing it with regular regens needed.
The warranty will be up in November as well.
How does a regen make you late for work?
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I only know that it is doing one when I come off the motorway and stop at the traffic lights, there isn't enough driving time for it complete before parking up at work, so I either have to wait for it to finish or carry on driving.
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I only know that it is doing one when I come off the motorway and stop at the traffic lights, there isn't enough driving time for it complete before parking up at work, so I either have to wait for it to finish or carry on driving.
Just get out and lock the car, why would you need the car to be running?
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Yep, no need for the engine to be running to complete a regen.
If you're only running at low revs on the motorway maybe try dropping a gear for a couple of miles and see if this helps.
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Pretty sure the MK8 gti is at least 2-3 years away...so if you can wait that long :wink:
I think the 7,5 has really nailed it and reached a peak design wise....I think in the long term future ( I mean 10-15 years) when they have solved the battery range and weight issues the GTI will be fully electric, maybe I will have to upgrade then out of neccesity (bad spelling I know :smiley:) but for now I am planning on keeping the 7,5 for as long as possible, as long as the availaibility and price of petrol doesnt become prohibitive when the electric revolution comes.
What are your thoughts folks on the longevity of petrol and all this electric hocus pocus?
I feel the same about my mk7 Clubsport ED 40.... dread the time when I have. to upgrade to electric. Still driving my mk1 golf 34 years after it was made and hope to do the same with this one
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I only know that it is doing one when I come off the motorway and stop at the traffic lights, there isn't enough driving time for it complete before parking up at work, so I either have to wait for it to finish or carry on driving.
Just get out and lock the car, why would you need the car to be running?
Not sure what you are getting at, the regen programme is running (higher RPM tickover) so I don't want to turn off the engine and not allow it to complete.
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I only know that it is doing one when I come off the motorway and stop at the traffic lights, there isn't enough driving time for it complete before parking up at work, so I either have to wait for it to finish or carry on driving.
Just get out and lock the car, why would you need the car to be running?
Not sure what you are getting at, the regen programme is running (higher RPM tickover) so I don't want to turn off the engine and not allow it to complete.
The higher rpm is just for the fan, the regen is already done. Turn the car off and the fan will keep running for a while without a problem. Why would anyone design a system that made the driver stay in the car with the engine running? It's not the 90's when you had to leave a turbocharged car idling after giving it a hard run so that the oil would keep pumping around the turbo to cool the bearings.
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It's not the 90's when you had to leave a turbocharged car idling after giving it a hard run so that the oil would keep pumping around the turbo to cool the bearings.
But isn't this precisely what is recommend by the 'experts' to prevent oil carbonisation in the turbo bearing oil feed tubes which ultimately leads to turbo failure?
The only time I usually apply this strategy is when I pull into a service station after a reasonable motorway stint. But mostly my journeys end with some town running where the turbo and the oil cool down anyway.
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It's not the 90's when you had to leave a turbocharged car idling after giving it a hard run so that the oil would keep pumping around the turbo to cool the bearings.
But isn't this precisely what is recommend by the 'experts' to prevent oil carbonisation in the turbo bearing oil feed tubes which ultimately leads to turbo failure?
The only time I usually apply this strategy is when I pull into a service station after a reasonable motorway stint. But mostly my journeys end with some town running where the turbo and the oil cool down anyway.
Turbo cooling nowadays is so good that it doesn't take any lenght to cool the turbos. Unless you're flooring it continually on the motorway or driving at speeds close to or above 100mph then there will me more than enough air going through the oil cooler/s to keep the oil cool enough.
The last time I had a problem with a turbo was in my R5 with a R21 turbo engine conversion, and when I say problems I mean big problems.
Not saying people don't have turbo problems now but they are usually from a part failure and not under cooling.
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Turbo cooling nowadays is so good that it doesn't take any lenght to cool the turbos. Unless you're flooring it continually on the motorway or driving at speeds close to or above 100mph then there will me more than enough air going through the oil cooler/s to keep the oil cool enough.
The last time I had a problem with a turbo was in my R5 with a R21 turbo engine conversion, and when I say problems I mean big problems.
Not saying people don't have turbo problems now but they are usually from a part failure and not under cooling.
Ooooh that takes me back, the R5 Turbo, do you remember the Fiesta RS Turbo, now that felt quick, well at least it did to me as a 15 year old passenger haha.
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Turbo cooling nowadays is so good that it doesn't take any lenght to cool the turbos. Unless you're flooring it continually on the motorway or driving at speeds close to or above 100mph then there will me more than enough air going through the oil cooler/s to keep the oil cool enough.
The last time I had a problem with a turbo was in my R5 with a R21 turbo engine conversion, and when I say problems I mean big problems.
Not saying people don't have turbo problems now but they are usually from a part failure and not under cooling.
Ooooh that takes me back, the R5 Turbo, do you remember the Fiesta RS Turbo, now that felt quick, well at least it did to me as a 15 year old passenger haha.
I do indeed remember them, and they were quick. One of the most oddball cars that I had was a Citroen BX 16v in red, I loved that car.