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Title: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 18 June 2017, 08:09
I thought I would start a thread on the topic of idiots who park big vehicles in car park spaces far too small for their car (no road markings on this occasion) and potentially damage your car in the process of their parking.  I went to the local beach yesterday There is a residential street where we park which we also have a right to park on, which is also down the side of the canal/beach.  My car was parallel parked there all day with more than enough space front and back so no worries.  Then in the evening when i came back to the car from the restaurant I discovered some absolute idiot had parked his Land Rover Discovery in a space which literally was no longer than the car itself.  To get his car in the space he would have had to hit both my car and the VW Transporter behind it several times to shuffle his car in (it really was that tight).  I could not even get to my boot it was such a tight space between my car and his.  So I instantly thought he must have hit my car and slid a hand across my bumper to check for damage to the paint etc,.  The result was Yes, he had indeed damaged my car I found what i thought was a long scraping of paint about 4 inch long along the most prominent edge of my bumper and an equivalent mark on his number plate.  But the light was fading so I decided to check it closer at home. So I hit the roof and took photos of the damage and his number plate etc, incase I need it for future use.  Then when I got home I got out my car cleaning stuffand had a go at the damaged bumper only to discover to my surprise the mark eventually came off and disappeared leaving no visible scratches underneath either (this did take a lot of work on my part).  However the reason I am writing this is to say I had a very lucky escape this time.  But why do some people insist on parking their oversized cars in spaces which are far too small and have any of you had similar lucky escapes from similar scenarios while your car was parked. Also what would you have done if you discovered your car was damaged in the car park and the car which had done it was still there.  Over to you guys..
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Watts on 18 June 2017, 08:26
Unfortunately most people view their cars as a workhorse and assume everyone else does too and bumpers are there to assist in parking. Glad yours has turned out okay. Mine gained a chip in the clear coat by a door in a tight space recently, I knew it was going to happen but there were no better spaces and I thought if I moved to another space and the car got damaged I'd blame myself for moving! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: kalimon on 18 June 2017, 09:12
I'm one of those sad people who frequently drive to the Trafford Centre or Tesco and return home without parking up, due to not being able to find a space I'm happy with :embarrassed:
I often just go to these places in my van :smiley:
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Post by: SRGTD on 18 June 2017, 10:05
Glad there was no permanent damage Brenbo. I dislike having to park in public spaces or use public car parks and supermarket car parks with a passion. Some years ago while at work, I had my car damaged on my work car park. I found out who did it and confronted them and they still didn't have the decency to own up. :angry: Also had a car door damaged on an airport car park while I was on holiday.

More recently (last year) I had someone plant a nice ding in my nearside rear wheel arch on my car in a public car park while I was at the dentist. The only option for parking was that car park.

These days, I'll only go to supermarkets at off peak times when there's plenty of parking spaces and less risk of damage. Even then, when the car park's pretty empty and I've parked in one of the spaces furthest from the supermarket doors, I often find someone parked next to me when there's lots of other spaces. Why?

Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Booth11 on 18 June 2017, 11:15
Sorry about your car Brenbo, glad you were able to remove the damage.

The problem is not just exclusive to big 4x4's though, but I know exactly what you mean. We have an Amarok, and finding a space it can fit in is often difficult but with a bit of searching, it is possible to usually find somewhere that doesn't pose a problem for others.  That said, I've had 3 lots of damage to my R sustained in car parks, all inflicted by cars, and in one case a very small fiat that bashed its door into mine as I was sitting in it!  Consequently we now use the big 4x4 for supermarket duty because of this!  So it's more a general couldn't-care-less attitude that seems to have pervaded some of society that leads to this situation where you take pot luck when entering any car park.  And the usual precautions of finding isolated far flung spaces is no guarantee, not when a car will drive across over a 100 empty parking spaces to cosy up next to the only other car in sight, as was the case with the fiat.  This coupled with the fact that parking spaces are still quite small despite the general move towards larger vehicles, which needs to be addressed by councils and providers of car parks, means public parking is Russian Roulette. 
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 18 June 2017, 11:50
I am lucky in the sense of supermarket shopping as our local Tesco has a few parking spaces with narrow chevrons either side which you can double park half on chevron/parking space to widen the parking space further.  I have been very careful where I park.  My wife will often roll her eyes as I search for that ever so rare larger space which will avoid any potential damage frrom other cars.  I feel all of your pain when you had sustained the damage to your cars.  The first thing which entered my head when i thought it was damaged was when does the local body repair/paint shop open and how much will it cost for Oryx White to be resprayed this time (will it be over £300+, the same as last time).  Luckily I managed to avoid this happening by the skin of my teeth. 
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: dubber36 on 18 June 2017, 11:55
One thing I have noticed with my Amarok is that people tend to give it a wide berth when parking. I guess assuming that I'm going to be careless towards their cars as I drive a big, stupid 4x4. I have to say that I find it easier to park that the Golf and certainly my Passat estate. The mirrors are huge and sitting up high gives a great vantage point. Front and rear sensors and a rear camera make parking a doddle.

Often parallel parking can be a chore due to tight spaces and it's length, but with the aid of the sensors and reflections in shop windows, it will go it without inflicting any damage.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 18 June 2017, 12:29
I guess its not so much about people owning 4x4's but more the attitude of individual people who own them.  You guys who also own 4x4's will most likely be super careful as you see the ownership of your cars as a pride and joy kinda thing.  However some others don't.  To them a car is just a thing which gets you from A to B and god help anyone who's car comes in to contact with theirs enroute. 
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Briggsy on 18 June 2017, 12:59
I often find someone parked next to me when there's lots of other spaces. Why?

That is one of the many unanswered questions we face on earth, that needs answering, alongside other questions like why are we here?

It does my absolute nut in when you've parked a million miles away from anyone to come back to find someones parked next to you when theres a ton of spaces that are not next to any other cars and nearer the shop/location wanting to park up for.

The mind absolutely boggles, I think some people are so inept at parking in a space that they use another car as a guide.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Guzzle on 18 June 2017, 13:02
when the car park's pretty empty and I've parked in one of the spaces furthest from the supermarket doors, I often find someone parked next to me when there's lots of other spaces. Why?

I was about to write almost exactly the same. What irks the most is when a high sided vehicle such as 4x4 or tall van that parks right next to you so your view is obscured if you need to reverse out.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 June 2017, 13:53
I am lucky in the sense of supermarket shopping as our local Tesco has a few parking spaces with narrow chevrons either side which you can double park half on chevron/parking space to widen the parking space further.  I have been very careful where I park.  My wife will often roll her eyes as I search for that ever so rare larger space which will avoid any potential damage frrom other cars.  I feel all of your pain when you had sustained the damage to your cars.  The first thing which entered my head when i thought it was damaged was when does the local body repair/paint shop open and how much will it cost for Oryx White to be resprayed this time (will it be over £300+, the same as last time).  Luckily I managed to avoid this happening by the skin of my teeth.

I had a couple of stone chips on the lower side done by a council worker when he was strimming grass. They admitted it and said they would pay for repair. The damage was done to the drivers side door and the cost of repair was just over £2k because it was oryx white. I didn't fancy getting the car sprayed for the sake of 3 small chips on the bottom of a door so we settled on a cheque for £1700 instead.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 18 June 2017, 15:48
It's great that you got that much cash in payment for damages.  But my mind would not settle knowing the door was chipped.  £2K is a bit steep.  How much were they going to respray.  I am sure it would only be several hundred or just under£1k at the most if I went to the spray shop I use. 

I absolutely love Oryx White as a colour.  But it can be expensive to repair.  Glad you managed to settle your damage amicably. 
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 June 2017, 16:58
It's great that you got that much cash in payment for damages.  But my mind would not settle knowing the door was chipped.  £2K is a bit steep.  How much were they going to respray.  I am sure it would only be several hundred or just under£1k at the most if I went to the spray shop I use. 

I absolutely love Oryx White as a colour.  But it can be expensive to repair.  Glad you managed to settle your damage amicably.

They were going to have to spray both doors and side skirt and blend it into the wing and rear quarter panel. I had to bend down to see them and even then they were hard to see plus I had ordered my next car.

I went to 3 different places and also had an assessor check the car and they agreed about the amount and cost.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: JoeGTI on 18 June 2017, 17:35
I think you did the right thing. £1700 in the pocket is a nice result. There's a very good chance if it were resprayed that you'd be even less happy with the outcome - mismatched paint, uneven lacquer etc. Not worth the grief for a couple of barely visible chips.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 18 June 2017, 17:58
Yeah fair play, if you have a car on order soon after anyway then you probably lost much less on trade in, pocketed £1700 on top and eventually got a new car. So in your case it was the best decision. 
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 June 2017, 18:11
I think you did the right thing. £1700 in the pocket is a nice result. There's a very good chance if it were resprayed that you'd be even less happy with the outcome - mismatched paint, uneven lacquer etc. Not worth the grief for a couple of barely visible chips.

That was my thought.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Talk-torque on 19 June 2017, 07:01
Been staying near Oxford, where my mum has been in the JR hospital. As anywhere, the parking is under pressure, but at the back of the area is a park, along the boundaries of the site, which less used, as it is not as obvious and a bit more trouble to get to. This park has been fitted in between trees, and the stretched out shape, the result being that there are a number of those lovely isolated spots where no one will park next to you, or, probably even bother coming close. Parking heaven!

The hotel I ended up at was a golfing venue, sited in the middle of it's own course. Very nice, very quiet and only a bit more expensive than a Premier Inn with a proper breakfast included. Here, there was plenty of well laid out parking in several large bays, including one with a locking barrier, for the members. What amused me was that there were several nice cars, probably 6 or so, including M BMWs and some nice Jags and high end 4X4s, parked in the end spaces of the partly empty bays, to be safe, much as we do. Happily, there was one of these spaces for mine. Parking heaven!

Parking has become an everyday hazard for anyone who cares for his car, but, when something as average sized and "ordinary" as a VW Golf Mk7 all but hangs out over the markings of normal parking spaces, what can you expect?
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: maxie on 19 June 2017, 12:09
a friend of mine on fb posted this today. omg that poor R lets hope this helps :)   (i've put it here just in case)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/14c9n5x.jpg)


i just asked her and apparently this happened at birmingham airport on the 16th june....
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 19 June 2017, 12:15
The parking of the Range Rover on the photo is just so careless and ignorant.  Is the scratches on the rear arch of the Golf R a result of the careless parking?   How the hell does anyone manage to get out of the Range Rover when it's parked so close?  :shocked:
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: dubber36 on 19 June 2017, 12:38
That 'Range Rover' is a Freelander :wink: but even so, that's the sort of parking you'd expect to see in France.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Bigwod on 19 June 2017, 12:40
I am lucky in the sense of supermarket shopping as our local Tesco has a few parking spaces with narrow chevrons either side which you can double park half on chevron/parking space to widen the parking space further.  I have been very careful where I park.  My wife will often roll her eyes as I search for that ever so rare larger space which will avoid any potential damage frrom other cars.  I feel all of your pain when you had sustained the damage to your cars.  The first thing which entered my head when i thought it was damaged was when does the local body repair/paint shop open and how much will it cost for Oryx White to be resprayed this time (will it be over £300+, the same as last time).  Luckily I managed to avoid this happening by the skin of my teeth.


That's the space I always go for also
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: kalimon on 19 June 2017, 12:58
a friend of mine on fb posted this today. omg that poor R lets hope this helps :)   (i've put it here just in case)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/14c9n5x.jpg)


i just asked her and apparently this happened at birmingham airport on the 16th june....
That Range Rover would have four flat tyres if it parked next to me like that
And the driver would get a flat nose if he had a problem with it :angry:
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Booth11 on 19 June 2017, 13:51
^^ This is all over the forums atm.  Wants his licence taking away.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: kalimon on 19 June 2017, 16:09
^^ This is all over the forums atm.  Wants his licence taking away.
Might be a woman :whistle:
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 19 June 2017, 20:24
What about this today. For the life of me I have no idea how she got out of the car. Luckily there was absolutely no marks on my car. I parked away from the car and hey presto 20 minutes later see came out and got into her car only to reverse like the rather old person she was.

Cropped the photo to save covering the other people's number plates.

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/5B9FC409-2BD4-49B7-AF26-EE1F6C4E44BD_zpsovapgmpy.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/5B9FC409-2BD4-49B7-AF26-EE1F6C4E44BD_zpsovapgmpy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Guzzle on 19 June 2017, 20:50
I can forgive the oldies to a degree, it's mostly incompetence rather than ignorance or malice.

On a quick trip to Sainsburys this afternoon I parked up with no cars either side. Came out to see cars on both sides with plenty other empty bays. But what annoyed me was the driver in the car on my left sat in his car with his drivers door wide open almost touching my car. He saw me approach and didn't bat and eyelid. He then watched me open my boot and obviously heard me slam it closed. He then watched me get in my car and heard me start my engine. Still he didn't move his door. It was only when I gave him a loud bib of the horn did he notice I couldn't get my wing mirror past his open door  :angry:
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Post by: I wanted a GTi on 19 June 2017, 21:23
I can forgive the oldies to a degree, it's mostly incompetence rather than ignorance or malice.

On a quick trip to Sainsburys this afternoon I parked up with no cars either side. Came out to see cars on both sides with plenty other empty bays. But what annoyed me was the driver in the car on my left sat in his car with his drivers door wide open almost touching my car. He saw me approach and didn't bat and eyelid. He then watched me open my boot and obviously heard me slam it closed. He then watched me get in my car and heard me start my engine. Still he didn't move his door. It was only when I gave him a loud bib of the horn did he notice I couldn't get my wing mirror past his open door  :angry:

Sorry but I don't forgive them. If anyone, whatever age can't drive properly then they have no place on our roads. I've had friends killed by sh!t drivers when they were on their motorbikes.

I have the upmost respect for my elders but I don't think they or anyone should be allowed to drive unless they are able.

Sorry, rant over.
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Post by: Guzzle on 19 June 2017, 21:45
Totally respect your point. If someone's general standard of driving is so bad that they're a risk to others then i'd agree they shouldn't be on the road. However if someone was apologetic and was in all other regards a respectful and responsible driver I think I would be inclined to go a little easy on them for the occasional time they struggle to get their car straight in a parking bay if there was no damage. It's rudeness, ignorance or denial that get by back up.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 19 June 2017, 22:12
Totally respect your point. If someone's general standard of driving is so bad that they're a risk to others then i'd agree they shouldn't be on the road. However if someone was apologetic and was in all other regards a respectful and responsible driver I think I would be inclined to go a little easy on them for the occasional time they struggle to get their car straight in a parking bay if there was no damage. It's rudeness, ignorance or denial that get by back up.

Totally agree. Christ, I've parked up and got out and looked back at my car and thought 'I nearly parked that' but I move it and it wouldn't be parking beside another car.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 20 June 2017, 06:24
Going off on a slight tangent the other day i parked at our local supermarket Ipulled my car in to one of those larger semi chevron spaces only to discover when halfway in to the space there was a trolley slightly protruding in to the space.  So I got out of my car (engine still running) to move the trolley.  While moving the trolley the middle aged woman from the Range Rover parked in the space the other side of the chevron area dumped her trolley next to the one I was literally just moving.  I had a bit of a rant at her....   But how ignorant and lazy can you get.  She drove off mid rant pretending i didn't exist and I ended up moving two trolleys to the trolley bay.  Just like bad parking, trolleys being left in parking spaces is another one of my pet gripes. 
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Post by: kalimon on 20 June 2017, 07:08
Going off on a slight tangent the other day i parked at our local supermarket Ipulled my car in to one of those larger semi chevron spaces only to discover when halfway in to the space there was a trolley slightly protruding in to the space.  So I got out of my car (engine still running) to move the trolley.  While moving the trolley the middle aged woman from the Range Rover parked in the space the other side of the chevron area dumped her trolley next to the one I was literally just moving.  I had a bit of a rant at her....   But how ignorant and lazy can you get.  She drove off mid rant pretending i didn't exist and I ended up moving two trolleys to the trolley bay.  Just like bad parking, trolleys being left in parking spaces is another one of my pet gripes.
You weren't wearing a hi vis vest were you : )
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 20 June 2017, 07:24
I can confirm i do not work in the supermarket car park collecting trolleys.   :rolleyes:

But it is a pet peeve that people leave trolleys in parking spaces.  It was just the cheek of the woman for dumping her trolley next to the one I was just moving so I could get my car in to the space. 
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 20 June 2017, 07:36
I can confirm i do not work in the supermarket car park collecting trolleys.   :rolleyes:

But it is a pet peeve that people leave trolleys in parking spaces.  It was just the cheek of the woman for dumping her trolley next to the one I was just moving so I could get my car in to the space.

Another hate of mine is most supermarket car parks have hills, just what is needed when people dump their trolleys.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: dubber36 on 20 June 2017, 08:59
What irks the most is when a high sided vehicle such as 4x4 or tall van that parks right next to you so your view is obscured if you need to reverse out.

Ahhh bless. Where should we park then? In the lorry bays?
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Guzzle on 20 June 2017, 09:59
What irks the most is when a high sided vehicle such as 4x4 or tall van that parks right next to you so your view is obscured if you need to reverse out.

Ahhh bless. Where should we park then? In the lorry bays?

If you read the context of my reply I meant 'in an empty car park'. Loads of other bays to park in, no need to park right next to me (or the lorry bays)!
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: dubber36 on 20 June 2017, 10:12
It didn't come across as that, but I do know what you mean. When I'm in an ordinary car and there is a bigger vehicle next to me, it can make seeing where I've reversing quite difficult. It's not worth worrying about tho'. It's times like that when we need to rely on the observations and consideration of other drivers that who would see you edging out, realise that you can't see, and give you enough time and space. That rarely happens tho'. Most people don't realise that there is a lot more to driving than just being able to make a vehicle move.
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: kalimon on 20 June 2017, 11:57
I can confirm i do not work in the supermarket car park collecting trolleys.   :rolleyes:

But it is a pet peeve that people leave trolleys in parking spaces.  It was just the cheek of the woman for dumping her trolley next to the one I was just moving so I could get my car in to the space.
Quite funny though. I'd loved to have seen your face :laugh:
Title: Re: Thought Car Damaged By Large 4x4 In Very Tight Space Behind My Car
Post by: Brenbo on 20 June 2017, 16:28
my face was first off a facial expression of complete surprise and shock that she had the balls to just rock up and dump the trolley next to the one I was moving (much like the face pulled by the head teacher in inbetweeners).  Then it changed to one of complete utter frustration and disgust (as I ranted about her ignorance and laziness).  Funny looking back on it.  But some people really do push their luck.