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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mcmaddy on 17 May 2017, 22:30

Title: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 May 2017, 22:30
Anyone had a rattle appear from the rear passenger door? I can't make my mind up if it's just the door rubbers or if it's the door handle mechanism. Could even be the poorly fitted plastic trim panels over the wheel arch that look like they've been fitted by Stevie Wonder?
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: kalimon on 17 May 2017, 22:34
It might be the seat belt
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 May 2017, 22:37
No, checked the seat belt and it's not that. I'll put the belt in the holder as though it's fastened on the way to work in the morning just to double check though.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: Watts on 17 May 2017, 22:48
Had a rattle in my driver's door which was caused by a lack of anti-rattle tape on the bar from the door release to the lock. VW forgot that one so could easily have missed a few more....
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: JoeGTI on 17 May 2017, 23:01
It's really likely to be the door rubbers. Is it worse when moving slowly, say over speed bumps or parking?

Krytox will cure it. Or try some other cheaper (less longer lasting) rubber lubricant first. On the felt strips.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 May 2017, 23:09
It seems worse at low speeds. The door rubbers do seem very dry if you know what I mean but the rattle sounds like a plasticy or dull metallic sound. Will give the door seals a go first.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 May 2017, 07:14
I had a rattle from day one, knew I should have gotten a 3 door :rolleyes:

If I use my elbow to press on the top of the rear door card it would stop. The car is going into the dealers in a couple of weeks and I have so many problems that they booked it in for minimum of a week. So much for VW being well built.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 May 2017, 08:00
Driven to work this morning and rattle still rattling, so it isn't seat belt. Need to book it in or remove for card myself.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: JoeGTI on 18 May 2017, 08:10
I had a rattle from day one, knew I should have gotten a 3 door :rolleyes:

If I use my elbow to press on the top of the rear door card it would stop. The car is going into the dealers in a couple of weeks and I have so many problems that they booked it in for minimum of a week. So much for VW being well built.

I'd personally strongly advise against letting a dealer chase down relatively minor issues like interior rattles. Any rattles for that matter. Ask yourself how much it's really bothering you first. And leaving it with them for a week?! Madness. The car will come back with one problem fixed and 3 more created.

As for 3 versus 5 door... the rear panels / door cards are much easier to remove on a 5 door ;)
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: greencode on 18 May 2017, 09:30
I'd personally strongly advise against letting a dealer chase down relatively minor issues like interior rattles. Any rattles for that matter. Ask yourself how much it's really bothering you first. And leaving it with them for a week?! Madness. The car will come back with one problem fixed and 3 more created.

Have to agree with you there. I remember, years ago, when I bought my first brand new car - a new MINI - I had a small rattle in the dash. Got the dealer to resolve the issue. They had to take the dash apart. It never did line up properly again and the rattle remained along with a few other squeaks! I think unless you can fix it yourself leave it and turn the music up a little louder ;-)
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 May 2017, 11:05
I had a rattle from day one, knew I should have gotten a 3 door :rolleyes:

If I use my elbow to press on the top of the rear door card it would stop. The car is going into the dealers in a couple of weeks and I have so many problems that they booked it in for minimum of a week. So much for VW being well built.

I'd personally strongly advise against letting a dealer chase down relatively minor issues like interior rattles. Any rattles for that matter. Ask yourself how much it's really bothering you first. And leaving it with them for a week?! Madness. The car will come back with one problem fixed and 3 more created.

As for 3 versus 5 door... the rear panels / door cards are much easier to remove on a 5 door ;)

The reason it is going in for a week is all the other problems.

Various rattles
Extremely unstable under hard braking
The discover nav unit needs replacing
Rattling/nocking rear suspension
Both keys only work 70/80% of the time after replacing batteries

The 'should have gotten a 3 door' comment was a bit tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 May 2017, 12:28
Any instructions anywhere on removing the rear door card? I'll do it myself rather than booking it in if it's ready to do.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 May 2017, 12:42
Any instructions anywhere on removing the rear door card? I'll do it myself rather than booking it in if it's ready to do.

Don't think I'm allowed to link other M7 websites so here is a screenshot of a guide Sootchucker did

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/7540BEC1-0660-43C7-AC10-45FEC4FE0AFA_zpsom4rokmk.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/7540BEC1-0660-43C7-AC10-45FEC4FE0AFA_zpsom4rokmk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 May 2017, 15:11
I know that site and I know of the author, cheers.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: Booth11 on 18 May 2017, 16:17
Have you checked the rubber stoppers on the sides of tailgate, as often these are a source of rattles and sometimes sounds like its emanating from elsewhere.  They can be unevenly adjusted which causes the tailgate to rattle.  It's a known problem.

Or as Joe suggests your door seals /window felts might need lubrucating.  My driver's door seals have just started to creak so they'll be getting the Krytox treatment very soon. Same happened around same time in the mk6 and Krytox cured it.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: kalimon on 18 May 2017, 16:28
I had a rattle in my A3 that drove me mad for years. I could have sworn it was coming from the front passenger door but it turned out to be a packet of tic tacs in the centre console :laugh:
I'm not even joking.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 May 2017, 18:14
I think I may have found the issue. Tried lifting the seat up a tiny bit and the majority of the rattle has gone. I'm still going to check door seals etc though.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: mcmaddy on 18 May 2017, 20:29
Is Sonnax Gumipflegge the same kind of stuff as krytox? It's only 10 quid on Amazon as opposed to 36 for krytox!
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: JoeGTI on 18 May 2017, 20:34
Ya it does a similar job. It's a bit messier but Krytox isn't worth the extra outlay imo.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: Booth11 on 18 May 2017, 20:36
Is Sonnax Gumipflegge the same kind of stuff as krytox? It's only 10 quid on Amazon as opposed to 36 for krytox!

Well it is a lubricant and you can use it on seals but it's very short lived by comparison with Krytox, and if you have any on your paintwork (round frames etc) and it gets wet in rain, it runs like crazy and is a pita to get off the paintwork.  Krytox is pricy for a small bottle but a little goes a long long way and once done the effects last a long long time.  Worth it imo.  I bought a 2 pk of Gummi Pflege a few years back to tackle my door seals, used it once, had a very short lived effect, ran all over the paint, bought Krytox instead, one application, never had to redo it.  Sold the gummi 2pk to someone else on a forum. 
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: JoeGTI on 18 May 2017, 20:50
Rebecca, tbh I've had exactly the same problems with krytox. Leaves a messy residue on the adjoining paintwork, especially if it's raining (almost always lol) and neither do I find it any longer lasting than gummi pfledge.

If I vaguely recall, the reason I used gummi pflege for this issue many years ago was on the recommendation of a BMW dealer. That's the stuff they were giving to 3-series coupe owners who were plagued with this issue.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 May 2017, 21:14
I was given this stuff by the dealer for the window creaking on my CC and one application was enough for the couple of years I had the cars.

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/3D3C152B-58F5-4A4A-91B9-8773289D3319_zpsylm2hgjv.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/3D3C152B-58F5-4A4A-91B9-8773289D3319_zpsylm2hgjv.jpg.html)
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/6CEA3BA2-FB97-4137-9AA4-337F07698CCD_zpshwq5vepe.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/6CEA3BA2-FB97-4137-9AA4-337F07698CCD_zpshwq5vepe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: Booth11 on 18 May 2017, 21:20
Rebecca, tbh I've had exactly the same problems with krytox. Leaves a messy residue on the adjoining paintwork, especially if it's raining (almost always lol) and neither do I find it any longer lasting than gummi pfledge.

If I vaguely recall, the reason I used gummi pflege for this issue many years ago was on the recommendation of a BMW dealer. That's the stuff they were giving to 3-series coupe owners who were plagued with this issue.

If you get either of them on the paint it will run in rain (same with Aerospace 303) but I found Krytox less messy which may be to do with application method - gummi was applied using in-built foam applicator, Krytox I applied with fingertips which gave better control and better targeting of areas, less mess, so application can play a part I think.  But bottom line for me was Krytox was far more effective and long lasting.  I only had to do the mk6 once and never again and that was about 2 years silence iirc.  Similar to gummy with BMW, Krytox was developed as a solution to the leaky seals of the VW EOS roof.   Gummi massively cheaper and many swear by it, so maybe worth a punt, but for me it was a false economy and second time around, I've just bought a new bottle of Krytox from TPS for the R seals.  Works for me.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 May 2017, 21:24
Am I the only one that thought of spraying it onto a cloth first and then rubbing said cloth over the rubber? No mess at all.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: Booth11 on 18 May 2017, 21:31
Am I the only one that thought of spraying it onto a cloth first and then rubbing said cloth over the rubber? No mess at all.

See I find that more hit and miss than fingertips. Same with applying dressing to window rubbers.  When I apply mine this time I'm going to use a detailing brush (the small WoWo one) as that's what I applied Aerospace 303 on my window rubbers with (at easter) and it worked brilliantly, so am expecting should be a good method for the Krytox.
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 18 May 2017, 21:41
Am I the only one that thought of spraying it onto a cloth first and then rubbing said cloth over the rubber? No mess at all.

See I find that more hit and miss than fingertips. Same with applying dressing to window rubbers.  When I apply mine this time I'm going to use a detailing brush (the small WoWo one) as that's what I applied Aerospace 303 on my window rubbers with (at easter) and it worked brilliantly, so am expecting should be a good method for the Krytox.

It wasn't hit and miss with the amount I used, it was running down my wrist  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rattle from back door, drivers side.
Post by: Booth11 on 18 May 2017, 21:43
Am I the only one that thought of spraying it onto a cloth first and then rubbing said cloth over the rubber? No mess at all.

See I find that more hit and miss than fingertips. Same with applying dressing to window rubbers.  When I apply mine this time I'm going to use a detailing brush (the small WoWo one) as that's what I applied Aerospace 303 on my window rubbers with (at easter) and it worked brilliantly, so am expecting should be a good method for the Krytox.

It wasn't hit and miss with the amount I used, it was running down my wrist  :rolleyes:

Could've worn a nice fluffy wooly mitt to catch those drips.  :laugh: