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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Snooze on 17 May 2017, 12:45
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I know this topic has been exhausted, but 4 new tyres will be landing along with a 4 wheel alignment on Saturday and I'm quite excited to be getting rid of my last 2 Bridgestones :laugh:
So I'm planning on Continental Sport Contact 5's. Other options are Michelin PS4's or Goodyear Eagle F1's. What ya saying?
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Conti 5 are good, but don't last long.
PS4's are not quite as good as the Contis but last longer.
Eagle F1's are not quite as good as the PS's and last about the same time in my experience.
Any of these are better than the OEM BS's.
I've not seen the prices, but my bet would be on PS4's for best grip vs longevity. I'm guessing all 3 are roughly in the same price bracket.
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How do all the above compare in wet conditions?
I'm currently looking at Uniroyal rainsport 3's for my GTD.
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Tyres aren't really a one dimensional choice.... if you were talking about road noise its a different question, as is wet stopping distance.
I was talking about (road not track levels of driving!) dry grip in the range of UK temperatures and the ability to not wheel spin in particular.
If rain stopping is a problem, I'd look at the published figures of those 3 vs whatever else.
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I`m also considering new tyres but my main consideration is road noise.
I know that tyres are rated when advertised but in the real world this number doesn`t count for much as I have Dunlop Sportmax on at he moment which are supposed to be rated quiet but in reality they`re terrible.
Anyone recommend tyres that are actually quiet?
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Thanks Fred. Want them to last so I'll go ps4's.
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BTW I read this earlier:
Continental have merged the Premium Contact 5 and Sport Contact 5 ranges into one new tyre, the Premium Contact 6. Like the Michelin, the Premium Contact 6 has featured in three tests, winning two of them, and placing third in one. Unfortunately for the Continental, the test it finished third place in was won by the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 where the new Premium Contact 6 surprisingly lost out in the wet braking tests.
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I`m also considering new tyres but my main consideration is road noise.
I know that tyres are rated when advertised but in the real world this number doesn`t count for much as I have Dunlop Sportmax on at he moment which are supposed to be rated quiet but in reality they`re terrible.
Anyone recommend tyres that are actually quiet?
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-Summer-Tyre-Buying-Guide.htm
Three reviews linked from there.
The difference between "good" and "bad" in the noise test is ~2db.... you won't be able to hear the difference!
I suspect the noise you are hearing is more wind and sh!tty road surface problems than tyres anyway
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Depends what you're after I guess. In terms of performance the new PS 4S is probably a superior tyre than all those you mention and seems much improved in the wet than the old MPSS. But it only comes in 19" (so far) and it is rather pricey being a brand new model with all the latest "technology" etc.
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I'm facing this same dilemma soon too having kept my tyres rotated so the wear is pretty even. Currently on the original Pirellis and they're just coming up to 16k miles and I'm thinking there is 3.5mm roughly of tread left but with a service due soon I'll have that confirmed then. The Pirellis have been pretty good allrounders, performed well over winter albeit being a mild one, but they do scrabble a bit on takeoff in 1st and 2nd but then they often haven't had time to fully warm up. Was thinking of trying the Conti 6 for a change plus at about £150 a corner they fit my budget. What sort of mileage do people get then on the Contis?
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On the Sport Contact 5's I've heard as low as 10k on the fronts on a stock GTI/GTD... I'd be wanting 14k ish for fronts really.
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Thanks for that, it seems low but then my Pirellis would've gone at the front ages ago if not rotated. Be interesting to hear of others experience too for comparison, also of the Goodyears which can be had for under £130 a corner.
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Depends what you're after I guess. In terms of performance the new PS 4S is probably a superior tyre than all those you mention and seems much improved in the wet than the old MPSS. But it only comes in 19" (so far) and it is rather pricey being a brand new model with all the latest "technology" etc.
I read that they will be introducing other sizes from March 2018. I'm not sure if the extra performance is worth the extra money. :undecided:
I'm planning on a set of standard Michelin PS4's, as they should be the best for wear. Wet performance has been shown in tests to drop significantly as tyres wear. My theory is - the longer a tyres lasts, the longer the performance will last. Also, any drop in performance should be gradual.
I believe the Michelins also have the "Premium Touch Effect" side walls. Which are designed to have a velvet appearance :cool:
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I suspect the noise you are hearing is more wind and sh!tty road surface problems than tyres anyway
You`re probably right there.
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All tyres now have "pass by" noise levels on the label. Whilst this is different to "in car" noise, it's still a good guide.
One may be 69bd and another 72db. Seems a small difference numerically, but that 3db difference equates to double the noise our ears hear.
If you want quiet, Pirelli (and probably others) now make OE tyres for Audi with a foam liner inside the tyre. This drastically reduces the noise passing into the cabin.
Oh, and yeah - I work in tyres so I'm a bit of a geek on the topic.
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All tyres now have "pass by" noise levels on the label. Whilst this is different to "in car" noise, it's still a good guide.
One may be 69bd and another 72db. Seems a small difference numerically, but that 3db difference equates to double the noise our ears hear.
If you want quiet, Pirelli (and probably others) now make OE tyres for Audi with a foam liner inside the tyre. This drastically reduces the noise passing into the cabin.
Oh, and yeah - I work in tyres so I'm a bit of a geek on the topic.
That's blown it an expert in tyres. But aren't Pirelli still soft as putty. I remember them on my mk1 and 2 in 80s. Lifespan 10k. Tyres surely are noiser due to low profiles lack of sidewall flex? It doesn't bother me, as fair trade off. Btw I like this foam layer idea. Geek, you're in the right place :wink:
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Nowadays you can't really say a particular brand is this or that. They all have so many products in their line up. Tyres are always a comprise between certain performance measures. Want good grip? Then wear will be poor. Want a tyre to last 50k then it ain't gonna grip.
The big challenge facing OE tyre makers currently is environmental pressures from govt (boring I know). It's all about emissions and road noise. The OE bridgestones that most people don't like are particularly strong in this area. The compromise being wet grip.
My final geek fact is on Michelin. They're the compound masters. They now make an intermediate wet tyre for motorsport that has no tread. It's a slick for the wet. The compound is so clever that they can achieve faster lap times in the wet without the need for tread.
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Don76
Which tyre would you recommend with a budget of £90max?
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Which tyre would you recommend with a budget of £90max?
I don't think you'll get any of the ones we are talking about here for 90 quid ?
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Which tyre would you recommend with a budget of £90max?
I don't think you'll get any of the ones we are talking about here for 90 quid ?
Yes you can :whistle:
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/41C43742-9E57-452C-8A30-32E925733D75_zpsb31ejozc.png) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/41C43742-9E57-452C-8A30-32E925733D75_zpsb31ejozc.png.html)
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Don76
Which tyre would you recommend with a budget of £90max?
I'd say you should spend as much as you can afford on tyres.
Go with a known brand and read reviews.
The Michelin PS4 above is all the tyre you'll ever need and very hard to beat.
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Which tyre would you recommend with a budget of £90max?
I don't think you'll get any of the ones we are talking about here for 90 quid ?
Thats right even Blackcircles are £106 fitted
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Has anyone noticed that a lot of high end motors from Porsche and MB use Pirelli p zero tyres yet they don't come out on top in any tyre tests.
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Has anyone noticed that a lot of high end motors from Porsche and MB use Pirelli p zero tyres yet they don't come out on top in any tyre tests.
Porsche and other manufacturers do not tie themselves into one brand or type of tyre.
A Porsche Pirelli PZero may perform slightly different on a Porsche to a Golf or BMW, the Porsche Pzero are made to a Porsche spec such that the tyres have to conform to a Porsche N rating..... You cannot fit a non approved, non N rated to a Porsche and maintain the warranty!
I have driven a few 911 over the years with various Pirelli's fitted and although they are not first choice, they are certainly usable within road driving limits.
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Four PS4's and four wheel alignment this w/e. Can't wait! :laugh: