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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: clubsport on 24 April 2017, 12:04

Title: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: clubsport on 24 April 2017, 12:04
Potentially good news in that it could mean more focussed and interesting Golfs to come from VW.

Honda literally smashed this in lap terms...

"The all-new Honda Civic Type R is officially the fastest front-wheel drive car ever to lap the Nürburgring, after setting a new record nearly seven seconds quicker than its predecessor.

Honda says that the record was set earlier this month as part of the new car’s testing programme, with a development car tackling the infamous Nordschleife circuit in 7 minutes 43.8 seconds.

The previous front-wheel drive record holder, the Volkswagen Golf 7.5 GTi Clubsport S ran it in 7:49.21 last year, itself only 1.4 seconds quicker than the outgoing last-generation Civic Type R."


https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/2017-honda-civic-type-r-snatches-back-fwd-nurburgring-lap-record

Bring on the Golf Clubsport SS /RS/  RSR, whatever it takes! :)
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: LRWmotorsport on 24 April 2017, 12:13
The exhaust on that thing....  :sick:
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: eug2huge on 24 April 2017, 12:21
Saw this on the Daily Mail this morning, very impressive.

GTI needs some serious updating if it's gonna compete!
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: dubber36 on 24 April 2017, 12:38
Yes, but just look at the thing.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: jv on 24 April 2017, 12:46
Interesting lack of comment in that article on it not being a production car, having seats and audio removed plus it's on track tyres. So other than that, totally fair.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 24 April 2017, 12:50
The exhaust on that thing....  :sick:

The one in the middle is the anti lag pipe, looks a bit naff and would have looked better if it was ended someplace under the car.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: clubsport on 24 April 2017, 12:54
Let's be fair, the Golf VW used was a development car that later went on to become the CS-S.

You may recall that many of us were slightly disappointed that VW didn't go as far in their search for lightness as we had hoped, when the production variant appeared.

I am sure there are guidelines that manufacturers adhere to, otherwise it would just be a pointless exercise.

I'm not defending Honda, but ultimately competition should lead to the potential for a more focused performance variant.
Once again, the issue may be how few they actually build for customer consumption.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: wigit on 24 April 2017, 13:02
The Megane will then knock this of its perch.

I have to admit the current one has grown on me as in a world of humdrum I think it appears to the inner chav in me.

Guilty pleasure but I quite fancy one of these for a couple of years as the daily to appeal to the inner hooligan.

Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Finglonga on 24 April 2017, 13:28
The exhaust on that thing....  :sick:

The one in the middle is the anti lag pipe, looks a bit naff and would have looked better if it was ended someplace under the car.

You sure? Heard from a few now it is simply to cause back pressure and reduce drone at higher RPM's. Still the whole car looks like it had ram raided Halfrauds.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: hog_hedge on 24 April 2017, 13:44
That's a great achievement but I think the car looks disgusting; each to their own.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Guzzle on 24 April 2017, 13:49
Honda in lap record shocker! Maybe they should send Fernando out in one of these at the next GP.

I'm sure it's great fun around a track but I can't imagine it'll be much fun to live with. It's also blindingly ugly to my eyes.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: dubber36 on 24 April 2017, 14:05
The exhaust on that thing....  :sick:

The one in the middle is the anti lag pipe, looks a bit naff and would have looked better if it was ended someplace under the car.

I'm sure that anti-lag is not road legal. Rally cars are not allowed to use it on the road sections. The driver will always turn off the ALS switch at the end of each stage. 
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: fredgroves on 24 April 2017, 14:25
Interesting lack of comment in that article on it not being a production car, having seats and audio removed plus it's on track tyres. So other than that, totally fair.  :laugh:

The CSS is only "production" by virtue of them having made and sold a handful of them ;-)

If you upped the definition of "production" to something more real world like say a minimum of 10000 units (maybe more) then you'd be nearer the mark IMHO...

And I agree with others, the Civic Type R is not something I'd want to buy. Performance is one thing, but I still want it to look like a normal car not something from Mcdonald's car park on a friday night.

Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Sootchucker on 24 April 2017, 14:34
Regardless of whether it's a production model vs a special track model is slightly irrelevant. From a technical aspect of putting a FWD only car around the ring in that sort of time is very impressive (regardless of whether it beats the Golf or not).

But honestly, it's looks are something only a mother could love. TBH at my age (+50) it's what I like about the Golf. Be it the GTD, GTI, R or CS, you don't look a proper tool when driving it, it's pretty much class / gender and age irrevalent. If I had that Honda (at my age), I've have to drive around with the seat lowered and with a cap and shades on to prevent anyone seeing it was me.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Briggsy on 24 April 2017, 15:04
I quite like it.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: kalimon on 24 April 2017, 15:46
Why is this nonsense making headlines?
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Exonian on 24 April 2017, 16:27
Why is this nonsense making headlines?

Well if I was cynical, which obviously I'm not  :whistle: , i'd say it just gives motoring 'journalists' something to do and provides the latest must have thing for those who have four other sports cars on their drive, read Evo magazine and take it as gospel, and need to be in the latest greatest Nurburgring car with a pair of £400 sunglasses perched on their forehead whilst sat in a traffic jam...

Thankfully I'm not cynical and like to think all these fantastic developments will filter down to run of the mill production cars so we can smugly sit in traffic jams blissfully ignorant to the technology that may or may not have hidden below the body panels.
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: kalimon on 24 April 2017, 16:54
Having read about the latest fines for speeding coming into force today, you'd think they would be making cars slower :whistle:
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: drisser on 24 April 2017, 18:39
I find this Nurburgring thing all a bit yawn to be honest and irrelevant in the real world.  Yes it's nice to claim to be the fastest but let's face it a white van driven without any care is faster than any other car in the real world if the driver wants to be a complete tool.. And not worry about his or her licence.

At least the golf is classy and good looking anyway..

Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Bigwod on 24 April 2017, 20:24
feel a bit gutted that my CSS is now 2nd to a Honda Civic.





Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Exonian on 24 April 2017, 20:56
feel a bit gutted that my CSS is now 2nd to a Honda Civic.
Yeah, CSS's are so last month. That's £50k wiped off the value.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: Watts on 24 April 2017, 22:02
feel a bit gutted that my CSS is now 2nd to a Honda Civic.
Yeah, CSS's are so last month. That's £50k wiped off the value.  :whistle:

Great news, I might be able to afford one now :laugh:
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 24 April 2017, 22:32
feel a bit gutted that my CSS is now 2nd to a Honda Civic.

But at least your 'Golf' is also a walking sport :whistle:
Title: Re: Honda regains Nurburgring Fwd record!
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 24 April 2017, 22:34
The exhaust on that thing....  :sick:

The one in the middle is the anti lag pipe, looks a bit naff and would have looked better if it was ended someplace under the car.

You sure? Heard from a few now it is simply to cause back pressure and reduce drone at higher RPM's. Still the whole car looks like it had ram raided Halfrauds.

Going by what I have heard, yes but I'm probably wrong :embarrassed: