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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: martial25 on 07 April 2017, 17:20

Title: New tyres
Post by: martial25 on 07 April 2017, 17:20
My front tyres need replacing, i am considering the Michellin PS4's

Been quoted £220 for both including fitting, just wanted to check if that's reasonable and where do you guys normally look for tyres?

I have been quoted that via blackcircles
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 07 April 2017, 17:56
My front tyres need replacing, i am considering the Michellin PS4's

Been quoted £220 for both including fitting, just wanted to check if that's reasonable and where do you guys normally look for tyres?

I have been quoted that via blackcircles

What size are your wheels. I got 4 225/40/18 for £398 delivered because I would prefer to get someone I know to fit them along with black wheel weights.

 I was quoted £104 each fitted.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: martial25 on 07 April 2017, 22:59
Mine are same size as yours buddy, how much is fitting fee normally? My back ones are ok for now so going for just the front 2.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 08 April 2017, 05:27
Mine are same size as yours buddy, how much is fitting fee normally? My back ones are ok for now so going for just the front 2.

It cost me a litre of JD to get four tyres fitted with by a friend. He's the only guy that I would trust 100% to not mark them.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: vw spur on 08 April 2017, 09:09
I'm replacing my fronts next week and have gone for conti sc6 at £197 fitted
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 April 2017, 13:18
Let me know what the contis are like.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 08 April 2017, 18:10
Let me know what the contis are like.

From what I've heard they are good, especially as an all rounder.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 08 April 2017, 18:47
I was getting my wife's winter tyres off today. The bloke in the bay beside me had a white GTI. He was getting 2 tyres replaced. I asked one of the fitters what he was getting on - Bridgestones.

He obviously doesn't read this forum. Or he is an old married man (like me) and drives like one!
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: GolfTi on 08 April 2017, 21:20
Contis are excellent but soft so don't last that long, my fronts did less than 10k.
Michelins are doing just fine at the moment and the wear looks OK - I really like them, they have excellent grip (wet and dry) and feel.

Bodgestones are a very hard compound -  good on dry days in the summer, borderline dangerous in the damp/wet.
They do last forever though....
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 April 2017, 08:47
Still don't get this statement that Bridgestones are dangerous in the wet. Surely you drive to the road conditions in front of you and can't drive the same way in dry and wet conditions.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: kalimon on 09 April 2017, 08:52
Still don't get this statement that Bridgestones are dangerous in the wet. Surely you drive to the road conditions in front of you and can't drive the same way in dry and wet conditions.
Good point.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 09 April 2017, 10:04
Still don't get this statement that Bridgestones are dangerous in the wet. Surely you drive to the road conditions in front of you and can't drive the same way in dry and wet conditions.

That is the whole point of a great tyre, you can drive to within 90% of dry conditions in the wet. The Bridgetones are actually not too bad now that the weather is hot except for the noise but in anything but hot dry conditions they shouldn't be on a car.

I tried my Lugano alloys with Cup 2's on them and I tried braking hard from 60mph and the abs didn't even cut in and on the same road that day the same speed the abs was cutting in and the car took about 20ft longer to stop. The car was much quieter and the feel of the car was vastly better but part of that could have been down to the 235/35/19 tyre size.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: Exonian on 09 April 2017, 10:13


I tried my Lugano alloys with Cup 2's on them and I tried braking hard from 60mph and the abs didn't even cut in and on the same road that day the same speed the abs was cutting in and the car took about 20ft longer to stop. The car was much quieter and the feel of the car was vastly better but part of that could have been down to the 235/35/19 tyre size.

Ahem, photo required immediately!
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 09 April 2017, 10:53


I tried my Lugano alloys with Cup 2's on them and I tried braking hard from 60mph and the abs didn't even cut in and on the same road that day the same speed the abs was cutting in and the car took about 20ft longer to stop. The car was much quieter and the feel of the car was vastly better but part of that could have been down to the 235/35/19 tyre size.

Ahem, photo required immediately!

I tried them the day I sold them and I didn't get a photo but I only sold 4 of them so I will put the the other on and get a photo. The stance was nice but as much as I loved them on the CC I didn't really dig them on the GTD
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: kalimon on 09 April 2017, 11:05
Still don't get this statement that Bridgestones are dangerous in the wet. Surely you drive to the road conditions in front of you and can't drive the same way in dry and wet conditions.

That is the whole point of a great tyre, you can drive to within 90% of dry conditions in the wet. The Bridgetones are actually not too bad now that the weather is hot except for the noise but in anything but hot dry conditions they shouldn't be on a car.

I think thats going slightly over the top :smiley:
I don't find them noisy at all either. It's not to say that I wouldn't mind changing them though :wink:

I tried my Lugano alloys with Cup 2's on them and I tried braking hard from 60mph and the abs didn't even cut in and on the same road that day the same speed the abs was cutting in and the car took about 20ft longer to stop. The car was much quieter and the feel of the car was vastly better but part of that could have been down to the 235/35/19 tyre size.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: Exonian on 09 April 2017, 11:20


I tried my Lugano alloys with Cup 2's on them and I tried braking hard from 60mph and the abs didn't even cut in and on the same road that day the same speed the abs was cutting in and the car took about 20ft longer to stop. The car was much quieter and the feel of the car was vastly better but part of that could have been down to the 235/35/19 tyre size.

Ahem, photo required immediately!

I tried them the day I sold them and I didn't get a photo but I only sold 4 of them so I will put the the other on and get a photo. The stance was nice but as much as I loved them on the CC I didn't really dig them on the GTD

Ahh, a shame you didn't get a shot of them fitted. Scirocco alloys are the perfect fit for a mk7 Golf and I'd often wondered what a set of Luganos would look like on one, that extra bit of offset makes such a difference to how the wheels sit in the arch.
I ran a set of VW 'Motorsport' OEM Scirocco Cup alloys on my R and was always happy with the way they sat in the arches.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 09 April 2017, 12:38


I tried my Lugano alloys with Cup 2's on them and I tried braking hard from 60mph and the abs didn't even cut in and on the same road that day the same speed the abs was cutting in and the car took about 20ft longer to stop. The car was much quieter and the feel of the car was vastly better but part of that could have been down to the 235/35/19 tyre size.

Ahem, photo required immediately!

I tried them the day I sold them and I didn't get a photo but I only sold 4 of them so I will put the the other on and get a photo. The stance was nice but as much as I loved them on the CC I didn't really dig them on the GTD

Ahh, a shame you didn't get a shot of them fitted. Scirocco alloys are the perfect fit for a mk7 Golf and I'd often wondered what a set of Luganos would look like on one, that extra bit of offset makes such a difference to how the wheels sit in the arch.
I ran a set of VW 'Motorsport' OEM Scirocco Cup alloys on my R and was always happy with the way they sat in the arches.

They looked the perfect stance, I'll try and get a photo for you before the car goes to the Detailer on Wednesday.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: greencode on 09 April 2017, 21:04
Always worth checking Camskill. Often much cheaper and then get them fitted at your local tyre fitter for around £15 a tyre.
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: vw spur on 11 April 2017, 10:45
My car is in with VW for its 1st service tomorrow and I thought I'd killl 2 birds with 1 stone and see about getting them to fit me 2 new front tyres while they had the car, told them I could get Conti SC6 for £97 from National tyres and Michelin PS4 for £104, they came back with £125 for the Contis and £145 for the Michelin, they wouldn't price match  :cry:

Just hope I can get the car back early enough tomorrow to get the tyres done in the evening as I have just ordered the Contis
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: SRGTD on 11 April 2017, 12:39
My car is in with VW for its 1st service tomorrow and I thought I'd killl 2 birds with 1 stone and see about getting them to fit me 2 new front tyres while they had the car, told them I could get Conti SC6 for £97 from National tyres and Michelin PS4 for £104, they came back with £125 for the Contis and £145 for the Michelin, they wouldn't price match  :cry:

Just hope I can get the car back early enough tomorrow to get the tyres done in the evening as I have just ordered the Contis

Make sure you get the fitter at National Tyres to agree the condition of your diamond cut alloys before they fit the new tyres. Very easy for diamond cut wheels to be damaged through the actions of careless tyre fitters!
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: vw spur on 11 April 2017, 16:44
My car is in with VW for its 1st service tomorrow and I thought I'd killl 2 birds with 1 stone and see about getting them to fit me 2 new front tyres while they had the car, told them I could get Conti SC6 for £97 from National tyres and Michelin PS4 for £104, they came back with £125 for the Contis and £145 for the Michelin, they wouldn't price match  :cry:

Just hope I can get the car back early enough tomorrow to get the tyres done in the evening as I have just ordered the Contis


Yeah that's the bit I've been nervous about, my wheels are totally unmarked and I'd like them to stay that way
Make sure you get the fitter at National Tyres to agree the condition of your diamond cut alloys before they fit the new tyres. Very easy for diamond cut wheels to be damaged through the actions of careless tyre fitters!
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: martial25 on 13 April 2017, 22:45
Had my PS4s fitted today, already noticing a change in the drive
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 14 April 2017, 09:02
Had my PS4s fitted today, already noticing a change in the drive
Take it easy for the first 100 miles until the layer that was in contact with the tyre mould is scrubbed off - especially if it is wet. Then (http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/styles/default/xenforo/asn/ab/racer.gif)
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 14 April 2017, 09:26
Still don't get this statement that Bridgestones are dangerous in the wet. Surely you drive to the road conditions in front of you and can't drive the same way in dry and wet conditions.
As others have said - a good tyre will work almost as well in the wet. As you are about to discover. The Bridgestone tyres are too hard to provide good wet weather grip. They are ok in warm, dry weather.

Yes, of course you drive within the limits of the tyres. Or you do get used to wheel spin when accelerating, controlling understeer and the ABS working all the time. Then you change to a better tyre and rarely experience any of the previous problems. That is what I experienced.

Some people even moved to the Golf R because they though the GTI and GTD are so bad in the wet. I'm just going to change the tyres :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New tyres
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 April 2017, 08:55
The Bridgestones are fine in the wet, even more so if they are warmed up 😁. They wouldn't be my choice of tyre but I'm certainly not going to replace them just for the sake of it.