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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 09GTI on 24 February 2017, 18:50

Title: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 24 February 2017, 18:50
So I've a choice of a new club sport ready for delivery or order a mk7.5 PP GTI
Any thoughts or advice
Finance rate on club sport is cheaper
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Watts on 24 February 2017, 18:57
Club Sport, easy choice if it were mine. Limited edition, more performance and great looks. No idea about the money side of things, I tend to decide what I want first then see if I can afford it and ignore the depreciation.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: kalimon on 24 February 2017, 19:03
No brainer.....Clubsport!!!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: SRGTD on 24 February 2017, 19:42
+1 for the Clubsport, especially if it's got the bucket seats!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 24 February 2017, 19:50
No bucket seats but pan roof , 19s , nav , reverse camera and dynaudio keyless in grey
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: evo1986 on 24 February 2017, 19:53
Clubsport!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 24 February 2017, 20:14
And it's a CS from me as well. :cool:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: hog_hedge on 24 February 2017, 20:16
Definitely the Clubsport, I don't think the 7.5 PP (or GTI Performance as I think it will be called) can be ordered yet unfortunately.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Mr GTD on 24 February 2017, 20:53
Yep agree with all it has to be the CS...
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: SRGTD on 24 February 2017, 21:00
No bucket seats but pan roof , 19s , nav , reverse camera and dynaudio keyless in grey

Nice; go on, do it! You know you want to. :smiley:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Daz Auto on 25 February 2017, 11:53
We should know more about the new GTI PP in a few weeks. There might be a launch at the Geneva motor show early March. However, it won't be available to order in the UK until May 4th. So don't expect to get the car until August/September. (Though Ireland may be different.)

What we know so far about the facelift -

- new front lights
- new tail lights with dynamic/sweeping indicators
- new alloys
- radar now inside the front VW badge = no hole in the front grill
- new active info display
- new dash
- power up to 245hp (and maybe 370N/m torque)
- new 7-speed DSG option

If none of that interests you, or you don't want to wait, then buy the CS.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Exonian on 25 February 2017, 13:20
I used to have a lovely mk5 GTI, bought second hand because I couldn't afford a new one.
I fitted some nice BBS wheels and had it remapped and nearly lived happily ever after.

Then when VW launched the mk6 GTI I suddenly felt that feeling of "I'd always promised myself I'd buy a brand new GTI one day so maybe now is the time..."
Alas I ended up deciding I'd buy an ex-demo as it was quite a bit cheaper and there were ridiculously long waits for build slots.
After that decision was made I played my usual waiting game of watching the available cars that I was interested in until they got to that sweet spot of when the sales manager is under pressure to shift them they're very much up for negotiation.

Whilst doing my daily trawls through the usual online places to watch the prices it became very apparent that the unsold end of line GTI Pirellis were starting to become pre-registered dealer stock and were going for some pretty attractive prices.
Being the idiot I am I bought the shiny new tech mk6 model when one became available at a very good cost to change.

There's no getting away from it that the mk6 was a very good car in its day once a bit of REVO flavoured spice was added and some nice wheels but...

... well, the Pirelli would probably have been a better buy and I really do think I made the wrong decision in hindsight.


So on that experience alone I'd say "get a ClubSport, but wait until they become dealer stock pre-registered as I reckon there will be some good buys to be had"
Right now there's going to be a bit of a wait for the GTI's I expect (unless you got a very early order in and a build slot), and more so for the PP so any old stock mk7's will have their prices shored up for a few months. Once the flow of cars starts coming off the ferries from Germany again then the ClubSports might become a bit like the Pirellis and ED30's that were initially held to ransom then suddenly became very attractive propositions once the sales managers were under pressure to clear space.

Or you could buy an R and watch your investment cascade like drops or water going over Victoria Falls  :laugh:
(I'd actually still buy an R in all honesty, or would I?  :undecided: )


On a more important note, I just popped into Sainsbury's to pick up a French stick bread thingy so went through the self scan for speed. I say speed but I'm pretty rubbish when it comes to those self scan tills some days. Anyway, all was going smoothly but the lady on the next till was having problem with her plums.
She couldn't get the weigh scales to recognise the plums she had carefully balanced out so the nice lady was called to assist and she seemed a bit mystified too and the shout came out for a supervisor.
She duly arrived with her headset on and immediately answered the query "they're being sold by the item now not by weight, they're 50p each"
50p for a plum!!!!!  :shocked:
kind of makes Golf R depreciation seem like a bargain.

Buy a Golf R.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: drisser on 25 February 2017, 13:56
I kind of pondered the same thing but glad I have bought a clubsport because -

Sweeping indicators look tragic in my mind
Don't want a digital dash
Personally don't like the new headlights with twisted red bits
CS is limited edition and probably won't ever see many on the road

I think your previous comment about dealer pre reg stock is partly true but having done a huge amount of research and shopping around late last year regards club sports I think the cars that are left as pre reg will either be £40k Christmas trees with everything on them or white, poverty spec cars with no bucket seats and not many peoples cup of tea.

I still haven't even seen my car in the flesh but I am very happy that going for a 3 door manual in red, with buckets, 19s  and black roof for a smidge over £30k after a good discount deal at end of last year will prove to be a good buy and not depreciate like a stone.

Finding a 3 door manual with buckets, but not tons of spec was incredibly difficult and the car I bought was the only one I found that had, in my mind, desirable options but not too much else that I didn't want to pay extra for.

What was apparent was that the whole ordering process wasn't handled well with lots of dealer ordered cars with no home and not that many in great spec choices given the nature of the car, but then it all depends what you want I suppose..

The new gti PP in fairly Boggo spec will no doubt be a great all rounder
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Watts on 25 February 2017, 14:15
I used to have a lovely mk5 GTI, bought second hand because I couldn't afford a new one.
I fitted some nice BBS wheels and had it remapped and nearly lived happily ever after.

Then when VW launched the mk6 GTI I suddenly felt that feeling of "I'd always promised myself I'd buy a brand new GTI one day so maybe now is the time..."
Alas I ended up deciding I'd buy an ex-demo as it was quite a bit cheaper and there were ridiculously long waits for build slots.
After that decision was made I played my usual waiting game of watching the available cars that I was interested in until they got to that sweet spot of when the sales manager is under pressure to shift them they're very much up for negotiation.

Whilst doing my daily trawls through the usual online places to watch the prices it became very apparent that the unsold end of line GTI Pirellis were starting to become pre-registered dealer stock and were going for some pretty attractive prices.
Being the idiot I am I bought the shiny new tech mk6 model when one became available at a very good cost to change.

There's no getting away from it that the mk6 was a very good car in its day once a bit of REVO flavoured spice was added and some nice wheels but...

... well, the Pirelli would probably have been a better buy and I really do think I made the wrong decision in hindsight.


So on that experience alone I'd say "get a ClubSport, but wait until they become dealer stock pre-registered as I reckon there will be some good buys to be had"
Right now there's going to be a bit of a wait for the GTI's I expect (unless you got a very early order in and a build slot), and more so for the PP so any old stock mk7's will have their prices shored up for a few months. Once the flow of cars starts coming off the ferries from Germany again then the ClubSports might become a bit like the Pirellis and ED30's that were initially held to ransom then suddenly became very attractive propositions once the sales managers were under pressure to clear space.

Or you could buy an R and watch your investment cascade like drops or water going over Victoria Falls  :laugh:
(I'd actually still buy an R in all honesty, or would I?  :undecided: )


On a more important note, I just popped into Sainsbury's to pick up a French stick bread thingy so went through the self scan for speed. I say speed but I'm pretty rubbish when it comes to those self scan tills some days. Anyway, all was going smoothly but the lady on the next till was having problem with her plums.
She couldn't get the weigh scales to recognise the plums she had carefully balanced out so the nice lady was called to assist and she seemed a bit mystified too and the shout came out for a supervisor.
She duly arrived with her headset on and immediately answered the query "they're being sold by the item now not by weight, they're 50p each"
50p for a plum!!!!!  :shocked:
kind of makes Golf R depreciation seem like a bargain.

Buy a Golf R.

That's all very well but you said "plums". Having never grown up I can't hear or read "plums" without sniggering :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Exonian on 25 February 2017, 14:47

That's all very well but you said "plums". Having never grown up I can't hear or read "plums" without sniggering :embarrassed:

It's funny that you should mention that, I very nearly put in a juvenile attempt at a joke within my post but thought better of it as we're all a very mature bunch and it would be very inappropriate, especially as it was a very scientific comparison of perceived value.

I'm still in shock actually.
Fifty pence EACH!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: SRGTD on 25 February 2017, 15:20

That's all very well but you said "plums". Having never grown up I can't hear or read "plums" without sniggering :embarrassed:

It's funny that you should mention that, I very nearly put in a juvenile attempt at a joke within my post but thought better of it as we're all a very mature bunch and it would be very inappropriate, especially as it was a very scientific comparison of perceived value.

I'm still in shock actually.
Fifty pence EACH!  :shocked:

It made me smile :smiley:.

Back on topic; Club Sport or mk7.5 GTI? There's not much about the facelift that I prefer over the Club Sport and IMO some of the new features Daz Auto has highlighted above are a bit gimmicky; e.g. sweeping rear indicators, Active Info Display, large shiny fingermark-prone gesture control screen that I think is hugely distracting to the driver and IMO potentially dangerous.

If I was in the market right now for a new Golf GTI, if the price was right I'd take the Club Sport. I do like the new Isaac Blue colour though that's available on the mk7.5.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 26 February 2017, 10:27
Thanks for replies - still can't decide - I like the look of the new lights and dash on the facelift GTI
First world problems though !
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 26 February 2017, 10:41
Going against the grain here but I think I'd be going for the FL. I'd want the latest tech, the new lights, etc.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: brown.jamesa on 26 February 2017, 11:22
Going against the grain here but I think I'd be going for the FL. I'd want the latest tech, the new lights, etc.

+1 for me.

I am waiting to order the GTI Performance on the 4th of May  :smiley:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Daz Auto on 26 February 2017, 13:35
Thanks for replies - still can't decide - I like the look of the new lights and dash on the facelift GTI
First world problems though !
I'm surprised you are not thinking of a facelift Golf R. That would give you both a change of style and an improvement in performance.

ClubSport = similar style, increased performance.    Facelift GTI = similar performance, change in style.

I am waiting to order the GTI Performance on the 4th of May  :smiley:
...me three.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: infernox on 26 February 2017, 14:50
Clubsport for sure. If you look, the 7.5 GTI is similar in style to the clubsport. On another note, anyone notice how much VW are charging to pre-facelift mk7 golf R's now? It seems crazy high to me.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 28 February 2017, 20:08
Went for CS !
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 28 February 2017, 20:12
Went for CS !

Smart choice, when do you pick it up?
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Watts on 28 February 2017, 20:23
Went for CS !

Well done you! From what owners have said about them I suspect you are going to enjoy it!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 February 2017, 20:29
Went for CS !

Congrats!! :cool:

Don't forget to get snappy once collected....
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: SRGTD on 28 February 2017, 20:50
Went for CS !

Congratulations and good choice.

Look forward to seeing some pictures. Enjoy :smiley:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: rwleigh on 01 March 2017, 00:22
Went for CS !

Clearly the only choice... Enjoy, I know I am...  :wink:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: TurboTrev on 01 March 2017, 08:32
Went for CS !

Great decision. :cool:  I collect mine tomorrow!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Damion on 01 March 2017, 19:05
Nice Black one, pre registered in Frank Keane's today, look really good in the flesh
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 01 March 2017, 19:43
Collect Friday - can't wait
Carbon Grey Met 😋
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: kalimon on 01 March 2017, 20:31
Collect Friday - can't wait
Carbon Grey Met 😋
Sounds like GTI heaven :drool:
I for one am rather envious :smiley:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Damion on 01 March 2017, 21:51
Good choice, stunning car fella!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 March 2017, 22:20
Sounds lovely in fairness, very nice spec too. Is it 3 or 5 door? It'll be an unusual sight anyway on Irish roads! I had a good poke around this one below in the metal myself a few weeks ago and it was lovely  :cool:

Make sure you put some pics up...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/781/32058895532_0b2ff9b23c_k_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 02 March 2017, 20:04
5 door - spec is very good only extras are pan roof and 19s
Met carbon grey
It has the keyless and reverse camera and nav etc as standard and the dynaudio
Doesn't have fancy seats but I didn't mind
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: SRGTD on 02 March 2017, 20:22
5 door - spec is very good only extras are pan roof and 19s
Met carbon grey
It has the keyless and reverse camera and nav etc as standard and the dynaudio
Doesn't have fancy seats but I didn't mind

My mk6 was Carbon Grey; loved the colour and found it easier to look after than my previous mk4 and mk5 Deep Black Pearl Golfs. The metallic flake really popped in sunlight, and it had a green-ish hue to the colour.

Enjoy it. Hope you'll put some pictures up when you've got it!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 March 2017, 00:06
5 door - spec is very good only extras are pan roof and 19s
Met carbon grey
It has the keyless and reverse camera and nav etc as standard and the dynaudio
Doesn't have fancy seats but I didn't mind

Nice! Great spec. I wouldn't be that fussed on the seats either. Nice as they are.
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: 09GTI on 03 March 2017, 19:51
Collected today in the rain !
The car is fantastic- wow it's seriously fast compared to my 220bhp GTI and the handling is great to - feels like a completely different car
The noise in sport mode - ride nice and smooth even on the 19s
Will get some pics up
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Mr GTD on 03 March 2017, 21:56
Collected today in the rain !
The car is fantastic- wow it's seriously fast compared to my 220bhp GTI and the handling is great to - feels like a completely different car
The noise in sport mode - ride nice and smooth even on the 19s
Will get some pics up

Congratulations, the sunnier days will soon be here.(hopefully)

Look forward to the pics...
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 03 March 2017, 23:36
Collected today in the rain !
The car is fantastic- wow it's seriously fast compared to my 220bhp GTI and the handling is great to - feels like a completely different car
The noise in sport mode - ride nice and smooth even on the 19s
Will get some pics up

Congratulations, the sunnier days will soon be here.(hopefully)

Look forward to the pics...

Says the guy from Dorset :whistle:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: kalimon on 05 March 2017, 16:33
Just called into Inchape Bolton as my wife is thinking about changing her A3 for a GTI. They had a VIP event on and they had a gorgeous 5 door manual  Clubsport in Oryx white with Prets and buckets in the showroom.
It was on offer at £33500 or thereabouts.
What a car!
First one I've seen in the flesh and it puts all the other performance Golf's I've seen to shame.
My wife wants one but it needs to be a DSG for her now.
Looks like I'll be the poor relation soon :cry:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Watts on 05 March 2017, 16:55
Just called into Inchape Bolton as my wife is thinking about changing her A3 for a GTI. They had a VIP event on and they had a gorgeous 5 door manual  Clubsport in Oryx white with Prets and buckets in the showroom.
It was on offer at £33500 or thereabouts.
What a car!
First one I've seen in the flesh and it puts all the other performance Golf's I've seen to shame.
My wife wants one but it needs to be a DSG for her now.
Looks like I'll be the poor relation soon :cry:

Give her your GTI so you can have the upgrade you clearly deserve :wink:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: kalimon on 05 March 2017, 17:08
Just called into Inchape Bolton as my wife is thinking about changing her A3 for a GTI. They had a VIP event on and they had a gorgeous 5 door manual  Clubsport in Oryx white with Prets and buckets in the showroom.
It was on offer at £33500 or thereabouts.
What a car!
First one I've seen in the flesh and it puts all the other performance Golf's I've seen to shame.
My wife wants one but it needs to be a DSG for her now.
Looks like I'll be the poor relation soon :cry:

Give her your GTI so you can have the upgrade you clearly deserve :wink:
Don't think I haven't thought about it.
Trouble is, mines a manual so it's not a option. 
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Watts on 05 March 2017, 17:24
Just called into Inchape Bolton as my wife is thinking about changing her A3 for a GTI. They had a VIP event on and they had a gorgeous 5 door manual  Clubsport in Oryx white with Prets and buckets in the showroom.
It was on offer at £33500 or thereabouts.
What a car!
First one I've seen in the flesh and it puts all the other performance Golf's I've seen to shame.
My wife wants one but it needs to be a DSG for her now.
Looks like I'll be the poor relation soon :cry:

Give her your GTI so you can have the upgrade you clearly deserve :wink:
Don't think I haven't thought about it.
Trouble is, mines a manual so it's not a option.

Bugger. I'm sure your missus will let you wash it for her though! Still, would be nice to have one in the household, my OH won't let go of her 14 year old Lupo. Although that does meet well with my tightwad tendencies :laugh:
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: kalimon on 05 March 2017, 17:49
My other option is to talk her out of it and get her to buy a Polo 😀
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Watts on 05 March 2017, 18:14
My other option is to talk her out of it and get her to buy a Polo 😀

Obviously I don't know either you or your wife but anyone who is wanting a CS sounds unlikely to settle for a Polo so if you can manage that then perhaps you are the one who can settle the Middle East!
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: kalimon on 05 March 2017, 19:04
My other option is to talk her out of it and get her to buy a Polo 😀

Obviously I don't know either you or your wife but anyone who is wanting a CS sounds unlikely to settle for a Polo so if you can manage that then perhaps you are the one who can settle the Middle East!
She knows next to nothing about cars, only that some look nicer than others.
I think she is set on a GTI of some sort as long as the colour is nice😀
An oryx white facelift GTI with dsg will probably suit her and if she's happy with that, I won't complain.

That CS was pretty awesome though and I'm no fan of white cars. 
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: Mikea on 05 March 2017, 22:51
Go for the Clubsport :grin:

Have had my one for 6 weeks now and love it
Title: Re: Club Sport or Mk 7.5 ?
Post by: ClubsportClayt on 10 March 2017, 16:59
Also had my clubsport 6 weeks now and absolutely in love with it defo the choice to go with!