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Title: USB media playback issue
Post by: kalimon on 14 February 2017, 15:56
I've got the MIB II standard system, not nav pro.
This happens a lot but not everytime and has done it from day one.
When ever I change media source from say CD or phone via bluetooth, to USB, or even switch from radio to USB, my USB media collection starts from the very first song on the first album.
Unfortunately for me, that means Politic from Coldplays first album :embarrassed:
I know I could always delete it but then I'd have to listen to the first song off whatever album came next.
Anyone else suffer this problem ?
Hope I've explained it well enough :undecided:
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 14 February 2017, 16:18
It happens when I switch to my Ipod sometimes (the Ipod is no different to USB really).

Sure, if I unplug the ipod from the car, fair enough but sometimes it just decides to start with the first track from the lowest alphabetic artist - Abba in my case.

Its annoying.

Mine is MIB1 NavPro btw.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: p3asa on 14 February 2017, 20:08
Do you have any any pattern to it at all where it doesn't do it?

That's pretty bad if its doing it when just changing source. Its as if the USB device has lost all contact / power with the car system and then when you select it again it thinks you've just connected it.
Have you tried a different high quality lead in case the pinouts are different?

I know I can't access Car Net app with certain leads, yet they appear to work with the phone in all other ways. So possibly something like that.

Can you try another USB device? is it still the same? With the same lead?
Just try and rule various things out.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: kalimon on 14 February 2017, 21:58
I'm just using a Kingston 16gb usb stick. It's annoying but I assumed it was something that happened to everyone.
I will try another brand of usb stick and see how that goes.
Thanks for the advice :smiley:
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: SRGTD on 14 February 2017, 22:05
I also get this intermittently with the Composition media MIB 2 in my Polo GTI.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: p3asa on 14 February 2017, 22:51
I'm just using a Kingston 16gb usb stick. It's annoying but I assumed it was something that happened to everyone.
I will try another brand of usb stick and see how that goes.
Thanks for the advice :smiley:


I would go down the lead road as it seems to be losing its connection between sources.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 07:52
I'd say its not the lead, based on my Ipod using its original high quality Apple cable

The connection never fails any other time either.

Its something else.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: jv on 15 February 2017, 10:39
USB seems flaky as funk on these units.

Whether app-connect starts seems to be based on:
the lead
starting the app on your phone before connecting
the day of the week
which side you got out of bed

When it works - Google maps via Android Auto is awesome. Speech recognition is excellent, re-route around delays superb. But then it will all go missing as if you have unplugged it and you are left with no navigation and the need to punch something.

With regards to audio playback - SD card use is spot on. Always goes back to where it was, never cuts out, album art all works. Basically, it works. Which feels like a revelation in comparison to USB stuff.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 11:22
I agree - USB is a bit random and SD cards just work.

I still don't understand why app connect needs to be plugged in - yes I get the "safety" aspect, but on other marques they are quite happy to do it over bluetooth and/or wifi.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: scotland67 on 15 February 2017, 11:30
My connected MP3 player also tends to play the first track of the first folder alphabetically, also Abba in my case
I usually set shuffle mode, but when I switch on the next time I have to reset shuffle again, which seems a bit complicated, hitting the right part of the touchscreen on the move
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: jv on 15 February 2017, 11:31
It was power initially. Android Auto and Car Play had to be plugged in, they didn't support wireless, it wasn't VW doing anything to hamper it. Both apps now do support it. The tricky factor is the car manufacturer bothering to update their in car software. Should be done over the air, not when you take it in for a service.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11700174/android-auto-update-wi-fi-support-ok-google-io-2016
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: kalimon on 15 February 2017, 11:47
I think I may well try an SD card. Added benefit in that it frees up the USB for other uses.
Any thoughts on brand, size etc ?

App-connect is a bag of sh!te. Who wants to get into a car and start messing about plugging cables into phones?
I agree that when it works it's awesome though :grin:
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 12:21
It was power initially. Android Auto and Car Play had to be plugged in, they didn't support wireless, it wasn't VW doing anything to hamper it. Both apps now do support it. The tricky factor is the car manufacturer bothering to update their in car software. Should be done over the air, not when you take it in for a service.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11700174/android-auto-update-wi-fi-support-ok-google-io-2016

Interesting.

I wonder if VW ever will release a MIB2 software update for that. I suspect not. I mean, why would they want to let you have something like that for free...

Probably works on MIB3 out of the box. Its probably its key feature!

Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 12:24
I think I may well try an SD card. Added benefit in that it frees up the USB for other uses.
Any thoughts on brand, size etc ?

Anything up to 128gb, class 10 if you want some speed when copying gb's of music over and as for brand, whatever really - if you are buying Sandisk though (which is a premium brand), make sure you buy it from a reputable source (eg Amazon themselves, not a "market place" seller) as Sandisk cards are faked like crazy. You pay for quality and get cheap chinese knockoffs!

Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: kalimon on 15 February 2017, 13:04
I think I may well try an SD card. Added benefit in that it frees up the USB for other uses.
Any thoughts on brand, size etc ?

Anything up to 128gb, class 10 if you want some speed when copying gb's of music over and as for brand, whatever really - if you are buying Sandisk though (which is a premium brand), make sure you buy it from a reputable source (eg Amazon themselves, not a "market place" seller) as Sandisk cards are faked like crazy. You pay for quality and get cheap chinese knockoffs!
Thanks Fred, more money spent on the car :cry:
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 13:45
The cards are cheap as chips though. Even from PC World, a decent 64gb is only 25 quid:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/cameras-camcorders/photography-accessories/memory-cards-and-readers/sandisk-ultra-plus-class-10-sd-memory-card-64-gb-10146730-pdt.html
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: kalimon on 15 February 2017, 16:20
£25 !!
Have you lost your mind? :shocked:
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 16:33
As I said EVEN from PC World.... other cheaper suppliers are also available :D
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: mezzer123 on 15 February 2017, 17:57
Hi Kalimon

I have just bought an SD card, and its better than a usb stick IMO, and I know that we all shop around but I bought this one

https://www.mymemory.co.uk/SDXC/Lexar/Lexar-128GB-Premium-II-300x-SDXC-UHS-I-U1-Card-Class-10 (https://www.mymemory.co.uk/SDXC/Lexar/Lexar-128GB-Premium-II-300x-SDXC-UHS-I-U1-Card-Class-10)

and it works great, fast enough for me when transferring music over, but there are probably better brands out there but its doing the job for me and I thought it was a good price for the size of card, if you look around on the net I'm sure there will be a discount code to knock a bit more off as well  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 15 February 2017, 19:11
Does anyone know why some music sounds better and much higher volume when playing over Bluetooth? I noticed it when I had a GTD from the dealers, everything was being played from Apple Music that had the music downloaded onto the phone. Iphone 7+ running iOS 10.2
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: fredgroves on 15 February 2017, 21:35
Two possible reasons...

First is whether the actual digital file source is the same quality eg one is 320 and the other is less.

Secondly over Bluetooth the decoder is the phone and not the car stereo.  Even with identical file qualities,  the difference in d2a decoder can make tons of difference.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: p3asa on 16 February 2017, 03:27
It was power initially. Android Auto and Car Play had to be plugged in, they didn't support wireless, it wasn't VW doing anything to hamper it. Both apps now do support it. The tricky factor is the car manufacturer bothering to update their in car software. Should be done over the air, not when you take it in for a service.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11700174/android-auto-update-wi-fi-support-ok-google-io-2016


That's interesting reading that link  "You won't have to touch anything to activate Android Auto" When I get in my car my phone automatically starts up Android Auto. It obviously doesn't work but somehow it knows its in the car.
Title: Re: USB media playback issue
Post by: p3asa on 16 February 2017, 04:33
I'd say its not the lead, based on my Ipod using its original high quality Apple cable

The connection never fails any other time either.

Its something else.

One swallow doesn't make a summer  :grin: :laugh:
Power does seem to be interrupted though hence why the ipod keeps restarting.

I've not tried my ipod in the new car but certainly in the others mine doesn't resort back to the beginning. Even when switching off and leaving the car for a couple of days it always resorted back to where it was playing.

It would be good to get to the bottom of it.