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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: david25 on 02 February 2017, 19:28
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Hello everyone,
I am looking at early MK6 GTI's and have the following questions:
1. Did the 2009 bi-xenon (no DRL) lights feature dynamic curve or was this added later? Pic of the lights below
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-FhJ7Dvt/0/S/i-FhJ7Dvt-S.jpg)
2. Is there an easy way to add DAB to an early RNS510 factory installation?
3. I know about the camchain issue!
4. Any known long term problems with DCC? Does it cost more to replace the dampers?
5. Any other big problems with 2009 models apart from the camchain? I know they added rear LED lighting and LED DRLs to later models.
Thanks
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Hi David,
I don't have all the answers to all your questions but I'll try and help out as much as I can.
1) Not sure unfortunately.
2) As far as I know the only way to add DAB to an RNS-510 is to swap out the headunit for a DAB RNS-510 and add the appropriate aerial. Happy to be corrected on this though.
3) Good, just go into any potential purchase with your eyes open (as it seems you are). Usual advice applies, ensure car has updated tensioner/budget for replacement.
4) Yes DCC dampers will cost more to replace than standard ones. Having said that I don't know of any long term problems with them. My car has DCC and I'm on 91,000 miles now with no issues there. I'll try log in to ETKA later and get some example prices.
5) None that I know of that are 2009 specific. Diamond cut Monzas can suffer from whiteworm corrosion. Problems I've had with my car during ownership have been failure of the coolant level sensor (expansion tank and sensor replaced under warranty) and failure of the PCV valve (DIY replaced this, ~£100 in parts from VW dealer). Been utterly reliable other than that. I think other potential weak areas include coilpacks (standard VAG) and diverter valves (mainly on tuned cars).
Would you be looking at manual or DSG cars? If DSG make sure it has been serviced on schedule (oil and filter change every 40,000 miles).
Hope that helps out,
Dan
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Many thanks for the info, it will be a manual, so no oil change to worry about.
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2 Seabrook is correct. To get DAB requires a replacement 510 with DAB. The replacement of the existing FM amplifier with one that is FM and DAB frequencies plus cabling allows you to use the existing antenna.
4 I believe the dampers are in excess of £250 each and there do not appear to be any aftermarket ones but not heard of any problems with them.
5 The only other problem that seems to be a more common fault (as well as the tensioner) is the intake manifold. A sensor fails and this affects the movement of the flaps inside but not a catastrophic failure as car is still driveable. Requires a replacement intake manifold.
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Again, many thanks for the info.
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Yes the xenons move on a 2009 you can turn it on or off from the dash menu.
Pcv/main seal
My main suggestion if viewing an early car is climb underneath and make sure there is NO oil on the bottom of the gearbox were it joins the engine. You can see it from the front and reach it. If there is oil its probably got a failed rear main crank seal. A gearbox off job to fix and probably contaminated the clutch too. This happens If the PCV fails or goes slightly faulty. But its a pain to fix.
Water pump.
Check the collent level is not at minimum as sure sign the pumps leaking.
Diverter valve
listen for boost noise (easy 35 quit fix though)
Inlet manifold.
flaps as said before. Probably have engine light on if it fails.
Inner door panel seals.
check carpet for dampness and for smells
Air con pump
if not being topped up (check service records should be done every 2 years)
Pumps can fail. So check aircon works.
Timing chain rattle and tensioner
you know about this one
DAB
you can buy from poland or germany the adaptor for the rear screen to allow retrofit of dab.
Front wings
check the wheel arch for rust. Not seen one yet but the mk6 has the silly sponges in the wheel arches the same as mk5 and 4. They hold water causing the wheel arches to eventually rust.
Monza shaddow 18" wheels
corrosion issues of the diamond finish
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Wow, thanks!
Was the PCV/main seal thing fixed in later cars? Or is it simply a case of a revised PCV (like all the revisions that happened with the MK5 GTI)
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I`m also considering a MK6 GTI, can anyone comment about cabin noise?
Are they quiet inside, is there any / much wind, road noise / tyre roar? I guess some maybe dependent on tyre make.
How about comfort, especially on our crap British back B roads? How does the suspension cope?
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Wow, thanks!
Was the PCV/main seal thing fixed in later cars? Or is it simply a case of a revised PCV (like all the revisions that happened with the MK5 GTI)
Not that I know of. Ive seen a 12 plate with oil on the bottom of the gearbox were it joins the engine as the oil come out of the casting hole. That may have just being a failed main seal though. The pcv has being revised a few times but the current one looks like the original E version that came with my car.
Heres a good video about the main seal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9VOI9myJiw
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Are they quiet inside, is there any / much wind, road noise / tyre roar? I guess some maybe dependent on tyre make.
Tyre roar can often be put down to 'sawtooth' tyre wear on the inside edges of the rear tyres. Some makes of tyres are more prone to this than others. You can feel the uneven tyre wear by running your hand over the inner tread of the tyres.
The wear is caused by having incorrect rear toe angles. The only fix is to have full 4 wheel alignment at the dealers, or somewhere that knows how to properly use a Hunter machine. The rear suspension is quite susceptible to getting knocked out of line. Having the correct alignment will make the car feel and handle so much better than one that's even a little bit out.
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Are they quiet inside, is there any / much wind, road noise / tyre roar? I guess some maybe dependent on tyre make.
Tyre roar can often be put down to 'sawtooth' tyre wear on the inside edges of the rear tyres. Some makes of tyres are more prone to this than others. You can feel the uneven tyre wear by running your hand over the inner tread of the tyres.
The wear is caused by having incorrect rear toe angles. The only fix is to have full 4 wheel alignment at the dealers, or somewhere that knows how to properly use a Hunter machine. The rear suspension is quite susceptible to getting knocked out of line. Having the correct alignment will make the car feel and handle so much better than one that's even a little bit out.
Thanks. But generally speaking is the MK6 GTI cabin a quiet place to be?
I once had a MK5 TDI that was truly awful due to road noise so I hoping the Mk6 has improved.
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Wow, thanks!
Was the PCV/main seal thing fixed in later cars? Or is it simply a case of a revised PCV (like all the revisions that happened with the MK5 GTI)
Not that I know of. Ive seen a 12 plate with oil on the bottom of the gearbox were it joins the engine as the oil come out of the casting hole. That may have just being a failed main seal though. The pcv has being revised a few times but the current one looks like the original E version that came with my car.
Heres a good video about the main seal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9VOI9myJiw
Thanks, looks an expensive job with all the work involved, maybe the PCV has some involvement if it fails. Another thing to watch out for!
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I went from a MK5 GTi to a MK6 GTi - both 3 door,both on 17" wheels - MK6 is defintely quieter - not life changing
but it is noticeable - just read any road test of the MK6 -the windscreen had thicker glass for a start.
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I went from a MK5 GTi to a MK6 GTi - both 3 door,both on 17" wheels - MK6 is defintely quieter - not life changing
but it is noticeable - just read any road test of the MK6 -the windscreen had thicker glass for a start.
Thanks Mezza, this is the kind of feedback I was after :smiley:
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Right, had a test drive today at a dealer (2012 car/50,000 miles)
1. "Leather" on car door where you would lean your elbow had a smooth shiny patch
2. Leather headrest on front passenger seat had another shiny spot
3. Seat stitching frayed where it meets the centre console (when you move it all the way forward)
4. The exterior condition was great, couldn't see any problems
My big question: this car still suffered from the ringing bell waste-gate rattle from 2000-3000rpm on a medium throttle. Should a 2012 car still have this problem? Is the noise completely eliminated with the clip fitted, or would a 2012 car have one fitted in the factory?
I won't be buying the car above based on the interior condition but I worried waste-gate rattle hasn't been completely fixed.
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Right, had a test drive today at a dealer (2012 car/50,000 miles)
1. "Leather" on car door where you would lean your elbow had a smooth shiny patch
2. Leather headrest on front passenger seat had another shiny spot
3. Seat stitching frayed where it meets the centre console (when you move it all the way forward)
4. The exterior condition was great, couldn't see any problems
My big question: this car still suffered from the ringing bell waste-gate rattle from 2000-3000rpm on a medium throttle. Should a 2012 car still have this problem? Is the noise completely eliminated with the clip fitted, or would a 2012 car have one fitted in the factory?
I won't be buying the car above based on the interior condition but I worried waste-gate rattle hasn't been completely fixed.
The shiny patches on the leather could be whatever product has been used to clean/protect. My initial thought was wear but in a headrest is a very unusual place for wear.
The waste gate rattle could be simply because the previous owner didn't make the dealership aware.
Re being a 2012 model, so is mine on a 62 plate and I had the rattle too. The clip mod sorts it
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Got sidetracked looking at ED35s....
Any idea how to remove this thirty party trim?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fJmsWJm/0/M/i-fJmsWJm-M.png)
Would it be glue or adhesive tape?
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Normally double sided tape.
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Easy to remove with some heat and patience?
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I picked up my mk6 2009 GTi last week. All the usual faults mentioned above have been sorted and invoiced to prove! No other major faults I was told to look out for by my mate who works for a VW specialists
So far so good, when not hooning it it's quiet and civilized, cabin is quiet compared to my mk6 GT TDi I had previous. Unfortunately I have the Monzas issue and no DAB either.
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad44/bristolcityboy/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170218_122105_733.jpg) (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/bristolcityboy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170218_122105_733.jpg.html)
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Looks great, what is the monza issue, whiteworm?
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New arrival, after looking for three months;
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-M8zTT9f/0/M/i-M8zTT9f-M.jpg)
Purchased on condition, its an 11 plate and therefore six years old, but look no carbon inside the exhaust and very little rust on the hubs
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-C3TzBPf/0/S/i-C3TzBPf-S.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-grp7xh4/0/S/i-grp7xh4-S.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-94mqcTF/0/S/i-94mqcTF-S.jpg)
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Congrats on the new arrival! Looks great, really clean! :cool:
Any more details or pics? Spec etc?
What made you go for this one after looking for so long?
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Basically, short supply. There are a maximum of 30 nationwide on VW.com (yes more on autotrader) but when you filter for 5 doors, manual, cloth its a very short list. This was right on the edge of my 100 mile search radius.
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Basically, short supply. There are a maximum of 30 nationwide on VW.com (yes more on autotrader) but when you filter for 5 doors, manual, cloth its a very short list. This was right on the edge of my 100 mile search radius.
Im finding this aswell, im after a [2011 White 5 Dr Manual Cloth] and there isn't a lot out there.
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Congrats on the new arrival
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Basically, short supply. There are a maximum of 30 nationwide on VW.com (yes more on autotrader) but when you filter for 5 doors, manual, cloth its a very short list. This was right on the edge of my 100 mile search radius.
Im finding this aswell, im after a [2011 White 5 Dr Manual Cloth] and there isn't a lot out there.
Agreed, if you like leather and DSG there are two good ones on autotrader. In my search, I think I saw one white/manual/cloth but it was too far away for me.
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Nice car David - enjoy it! Looks in great condition.
Needs some LED rears to finish it off now :wink:
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Basically, short supply. There are a maximum of 30 nationwide on VW.com (yes more on autotrader) but when you filter for 5 doors, manual, cloth its a very short list. This was right on the edge of my 100 mile search radius.
Im finding this aswell, im after a [2011 White 5 Dr Manual Cloth] and there isn't a lot out there.
When I bought my 2010 GTI the dealer said there would be a premium second hand as not many had been built for UK in 2009/10.
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Nice car David - enjoy it! Looks in great condition.
Needs some LED rears to finish it off now :wink:
Its a 2011 model, so its one mod I can skip
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-NwdHPQ5/0/M/i-NwdHPQ5-M.jpg)
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Basically, short supply. There are a maximum of 30 nationwide on VW.com (yes more on autotrader) but when you filter for 5 doors, manual, cloth its a very short list. This was right on the edge of my 100 mile search radius.
Im finding this aswell, im after a [2011 White 5 Dr Manual Cloth] and there isn't a lot out there.
When I bought my 2010 GTI the dealer said there would be a premium second hand as not many had been built for UK in 2009/10.
Interesting, from what I have seen it continued into 2011
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David if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for your 2011 GTI? Gives me some sort of idea :)
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£13,500 remember its special case, no leather, nav or even 18" wheels, but with 15,000 miles its basically a pre-reg car, it was £14,000 but i took the finance with a £500 bonus and will then convert the finance to bank next month.
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£13,500 remember its special case, no leather, nav or even 18" wheels, but with 15,000 miles its basically a pre-reg car, it was £14,000 but i took the finance with a £500 bonus and will then convert the finance to bank next month.
Nice :cool: