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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: infernox on 27 January 2017, 16:59

Title: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 27 January 2017, 16:59
Hi, I'm interested in getting a Golf GTI or R and was looking for the Dynaudio upgrade. Finding it hard locating one with the Dynaudio up for sale on Autotrader and Ebay so contacted my local dealer to check if they had any. He said they don't have any with Dynaudio but you can get a Plug and Play system to add to any MK7 Golf. My question is, which audio system is better? He quoted me £465 to add it onto any Mk7 Golf which isn't much less than the Dynaudio option costs. I'm coming from an Audi A3 with Bose Sound System.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: fredgroves on 27 January 2017, 17:09
Plug and Play just adds a subwoofer to the boot. It doesn't upgrade the other speakers.

Someone on here I think did add it to his Mk7 though.

Personally, I'd not bother.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Margy on 27 January 2017, 19:53
I came from a Bose in my A3 to the standard set-up in the golf. In my opinion the bass in the Golf is better than the Bose, & in general, the standard set-up gives me all I need in an "in car" scenario.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Restlessnative on 27 January 2017, 20:32
Interesting write up on the  Dynaudio system here:

www.whathifi.com/features/dynaudio-excite-sound-system-review-vw-golf-mk-7

I have it on my GTD.I only specced it as i was flush with cash at the time. :laugh:
I can't fault the sound quality at all.But i haven't heard the standard or plug and play versions so i can't really compare the difference.
For sure,it's quite a rare extra on Golfs.So maybe (as others say) the standard system is good enough.
I wouldn't go to the bother of paying for the plug and play system.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 28 January 2017, 11:36
Ok thanks for the help guys. I think I'll try and check out the standard set up and see how it sounds. Does anyone know when Golf R's got Dynaudio? I was reading another thread that said they couldn't fit them when they arrived in the UK because the boot was smaller.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 January 2017, 11:42
Hi, I'm interested in getting a Golf GTI or R and was looking for the Dynaudio upgrade. Finding it hard locating one with the Dynaudio up for sale on Autotrader and Ebay so contacted my local dealer to check if they had any. He said they don't have any with Dynaudio but you can get a Plug and Play system to add to any MK7 Golf. My question is, which audio system is better? He quoted me £465 to add it onto any Mk7 Golf which isn't much less than the Dynaudio option costs. I'm coming from an Audi A3 with Bose Sound System.

Are you sure you need it? The standard system is pretty good as standard systems go - and a performance golf has a bit more background noise than a non-performance A3 (assuming it was a normal one) - especially if you leave it in Sport/Race with the Soundaktor on. It's not an option that a lot of people take new, and if you're going for an ex lease R (they should be starting to filter through the dealership network now), you'll find them pretty much completely standard (and white or red).
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 28 January 2017, 15:44
Are you sure you need it? The standard system is pretty good as standard systems go - and a performance golf has a bit more background noise than a non-performance A3 (assuming it was a normal one) - especially if you leave it in Sport/Race with the Soundaktor on. It's not an option that a lot of people take new, and if you're going for an ex lease R (they should be starting to filter through the dealership network now), you'll find them pretty much completely standard (and white or red).

I'll have a try of the standard audio and see how I find it. I do have a non-performance A3, it was a 1.4 TFSI Sport. You're definitely right about the flood of Golf R's in the used car market. It's really annoying for me as white and red are the 2 colours that I don't like but they are the most common and cheapest. There's actually some Golf R's that are cheaper than equivalent year Golf GTI's.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Margy on 28 January 2017, 18:16
Yep, same when I was looking for a used GTI! The GTI has become more exclusive, if you can say that about such a car! All the Rs are base spec too!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 January 2017, 18:16
Are you sure you need it? The standard system is pretty good as standard systems go - and a performance golf has a bit more background noise than a non-performance A3 (assuming it was a normal one) - especially if you leave it in Sport/Race with the Soundaktor on. It's not an option that a lot of people take new, and if you're going for an ex lease R (they should be starting to filter through the dealership network now), you'll find them pretty much completely standard (and white or red).

I'll have a try of the standard audio and see how I find it. I did have a non-performance A3, it was a 1.4 TFSI Sport. You're definitely right about the flood of Golf R's in the used car market. It's really annoying for me as white and red are the 2 colours that I don't like but they are the most common and cheapest. There's actually some Golf R's that are cheaper than equivalent year Golf GTI's.

Most leasers don't like paying for metallic paint!
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Bungleaio on 29 January 2017, 08:27
Dynaudio wasn't available on the R until 2015 I believe.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Booth11 on 29 January 2017, 09:31
Dynaudio became available on the R from build week 45 - 3rd Nov 2014 onwards (MY15), so if you are looking for an R with the upgraded sound, it needs to have been built from that date.  I delayed my R order until Dynaudio was available and they had sorted out how to fit the sub in the boot with the haldex system.

I personally think Dynaudio is fantastic and one of the best very value for money options offered.  Once the speakers are burned in, it develops a rich velvety bass, and sounds fantastic through the whole range.  If I could have only specced one thing on my R, it would have been Dynaudio.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: gtiaps on 29 January 2017, 11:04
I specced the dynaudio with my factory build gti having come from the bose also on my A3 n prior to that my modded focus which had 2 x 3500w amps  2 x 12" subs 2pr 6x9 upgraded front n rear door speakers and front component speakers lol yup it was loud and handled the Base and full range but when I sold that n cane off thar scene the a bose was ok but my personal opinion is the dynaudio is better than the bose definitely on the lower end sound  :whistle:
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: kalimon on 29 January 2017, 12:30
The Dynaudio upgrade is a no brainer for the money, especially when you consider that the cheapest pair of home stereo speakers they make sell for around £500.
They make some of the very best hi fi, professional monitor and home cinema speakers available anywhere.
I run a full 5.1 Dynaudio surround system and a seperate Dynaudio stereo system, so I suppose I'm a little bit bias :laugh:
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: fredgroves on 30 January 2017, 08:55
The original question wasn't "is Dynaudio good?" though was it.

I'd agree that it was worth having as a proper system (the tech pack actually makes it actually a discount on the NavPro, although I suspect the "tech pack" was just a parts bin clearance promotion) just not that the plug and play audio system was the equivalent.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: kalimon on 30 January 2017, 13:52
The original question wasn't "is Dynaudio good?" though was it.


I'd agree that it was worth having as a proper system (the tech pack actually makes it actually a discount on the NavPro, although I suspect the "tech pack" was just a parts bin clearance promotion) just not that the plug and play audio system was the equivalent.
You're right, it wasn't, but I thought I'd mention it anyway :grin:
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 30 January 2017, 18:25
Dynaudio became available on the R from build week 45 - 3rd Nov 2014 onwards (MY15), so if you are looking for an R with the upgraded sound, it needs to have been built from that date.  I delayed my R order until Dynaudio was available and they had sorted out how to fit the sub in the boot with the haldex system.

I personally think Dynaudio is fantastic and one of the best very value for money options offered.  Once the speakers are burned in, it develops a rich velvety bass, and sounds fantastic through the whole range.  If I could have only specced one thing on my R, it would have been Dynaudio.

Thanks for the info. So would that be most 64 plate Golf R's onward? I have seen some 15 plate Golf R's with it but not 64 plate ones. I'll still try to hear the standard set up and compare it to my current Bose one.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: iandjm on 31 January 2017, 14:02
The Dynaudio sound quality also jumped massively in MY16.  I had a MY 14 Gti with Dynaudio which was ok , but nowhere near as good as my previous Mk6 with the system (and no sub). My MY17 Dynaudio is far more punchy, with a massive amount more bass response and overall far better sound quality.  By comparison my Gti sounded like it did not even have the system.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: itavaltalainen on 31 January 2017, 15:31
Guess gen2 DM/DP has it's impact too.
I thought it was about the same with the standard DM2 in my GTD compared to DM1 in my old estate, though it's much improved after putting the rather expensive Helix 'so-called' Plug & Play unit in....
Bass does make the rear window shake occasionally now ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 31 January 2017, 18:12
When would MY16 be? What is DM1 and DM2?
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: fredgroves on 31 January 2017, 19:17
That's also known as mib1 or mib2.  If it has car play app connect then it's mib2... From about mid 2016 onwards
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: gtiaps on 01 February 2017, 07:15
That's also known as mib1 or mib2.  If it has car play app connect then it's mib2... From about mid 2016 onwards

I ordered mine 30th January 2016 and it came mb2 with car play etc..
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Sootchucker on 01 February 2017, 07:24
We collected my new GTD and the Wife's Polo Blue GT last May (2016) and both cars had apple car play, Android Auto and Mirrorlink installed (although we did have to pay around £100 on the Polo to get this feature activated during build time). Was standard and free on the Nav Pro.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: fredgroves on 01 February 2017, 09:02
When I say "mid 2016" I mean delivered about mid-2016, not ordered :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 01 February 2017, 23:47
Oh I know about MIB1 and MIB2 but haven't seen it be called DM1 and DM2. I realised why you can call it DM1 and DM2 though. I'm looking at a 16 plate Golf R atm and it has MIB2. I thought that started in 2015.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Hertsman on 03 February 2017, 15:35
Obviously subjective but ..

Had 2 x A3 S Line Quattro with standard set up, decided to treat myself to BOSE in 3rd and though there was a sense of uplift in quality the fact I was looking for it as some justification says more I think. The covers were pretty cool to point to though.

Next car was a GTD and avoided the upgrade having been burnt once and was more than happy with the sound, good bass, good treble and stereo differentiation.

Regular CD across these cars is Heaven 17 Penthouse and Pavement and a few certain tracks dart between the speaker and need good clarity to do the tunes justice and none of the set ups failed.

So now on a MK 7 R with standard set up and again its pretty decent.

Now I am no audiophile but do like my music so will qualify my ears a little more in that have 3 x Sonos Play 1 and 1 x Sonos Play 5 as my main listening. Also, though a little redundant now and more a feature is a decent Denon system coupled to Mission Speakers.

So basically i would not tolerate a shoddy sound but do feel the standard system is decent. Connectivity is now much better on the MIB 2 with Car Play and Bluetooth working really well,

Also you have to think where listening, as the car is not a decently set out front room for good audio quality.

Can only see you get the real benefit of in car audio if on a long cruise on your own.

My environment usually involves passengers, short to medium journeys and quite a a bit of radio or playlists from my Deezer and none really conducive to great audio which is reason most decent audio shops have quiet rooms to demonstrate their tech.

Cannot see the ££ uplift being matched by audio lift and more so in a compromised environment. If standard set up was naff, then yes 100%, but it is not.

But its subjective, many will say its worth every penny, and swear by it,

This is my view and am saying save your money for something that would make a difference or just save it

Best decider is to go to a showroom and sit in both and be totally honest about what hearing.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: Tuckerjuk on 04 February 2017, 19:02
Iv got Dynaudio and sound quality is much better and clear all way up sound range. Now iv had it id probably always pay the extra £500 odd.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: infernox on 04 February 2017, 23:09
Obviously subjective but ..

Had 2 x A3 S Line Quattro with standard set up, decided to treat myself to BOSE in 3rd and though there was a sense of uplift in quality the fact I was looking for it as some justification says more I think. The covers were pretty cool to point to though.

Next car was a GTD and avoided the upgrade having been burnt once and was more than happy with the sound, good bass, good treble and stereo differentiation.

So now on a MK 7 R with standard set up and again its pretty decent.


Off topic but how did you find the ride comfort on the GTD/GTI and R compared to your old S-line A3's? I got a A3 sport but its got the s-line 18 inch wheels so must be similar.
Title: Re: Dynaudio Vs Plug and Play
Post by: madmark63 on 05 February 2017, 18:30
i did spec mine with the dynaudio as i like the sound ,dont get me wrong the standard setup is very good but the dynaudio is even better  :wink: