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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Jackie Treehorn on 07 December 2016, 09:45
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Hi All
If you want to upgrade when the time comes with alternative VW parts, I have tried to compile a list of Clubsport S part numbers with comparison GTi PP numbers. I have also added some number for bushes in arms separately where available to see if they are different.
Interestingly i have had my eye on a rear ARB I found that is 3.6mm thicker and it looks like this is fitted to the CSS to add a little stiffness to the rear while keeping the front the same. The front arms are different, but the balljoints are the same and so are the front bushes, however the rear bushes are different on the front arms, and this could be the reason for the complete arm different part number.
Anything else you want me to find please let me know (some for the CS needs to be checked, which i will do again this week)
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5550/31374113871_73c4051bd6_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PNqwZM)Capture (https://flic.kr/p/PNqwZM) by Emmber (https://www.flickr.com/photos/emmber/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5529/31374113711_2d3c214598_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/PNqwX2)css seat (https://flic.kr/p/PNqwX2) by Emmber (https://www.flickr.com/photos/emmber/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5558/31374113311_abb7d8efa4_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/PNqwQ8)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/PNqwQ8) by Emmber (https://www.flickr.com/photos/emmber/), on Flickr
Clubsport Parts
EXHAUST
FRONT SILENCER 5Q0253209HF 184.51
REAR SILENCER 5G6253609DD 317.21
DUEL CLIP 1K0253141AA 15.71
CAT/DOWNPIPE 5Q0254502LX 644.3
FRONT
FRONT ARM LEFT 5Q0407151K 112.51
FRONT ARM RIGHT 5Q0407152K 112.51
BALL JOINT LEFT 3C407365B 35.02
BALL JOINT RIGHT 3C407366B 35.02
ARB FRONT 24X3.8 5Q0411303N 114.99
STABILISER LINK 5Q0411315A 29.74
WHEEL BEARING 8S0498625 103.68
WHEEL HUB LEFT 5Q0407253E 235.04
WHEEL HUB RIGHT 5Q0407254E 235.04
FRONT ARM FRONT BUSH 5Q0407182 9.59
FRONT ARM REAR BUSH 5Q0407183F 18.9
TOP MOUNT 5Q0412311D 27.91
TOP MOUNT BEARING 5Q0412249F 15.67
SPRING 5Q0411105JF 3 COLOUR OP MARKS WHITE/RED/VIOLET 74.89
BUMP STOP 5Q0412303E 9.8
SHOCK (Adaptive) 5Q0413031ED 161.66
REAR
ARB rear 21.7X3.6 5Q0511305BA 70.88
STABILISER LINKS 5Q0505465C 24.38
TRACK ROD 5Q0501529C 36.68
WISHBONE UPPER 5Q0505323D 77.23
WISHBONE LOWER 5Q0505311E 84.21
LOWER BUSH OUTER 1K0505553A 7.86
AXLE ARM LEFT 5Q0505223D 73.99
AXLE ARM RIGHT 5Q0505224D 73.99
AXLE ARM BUSH 5Q0505541A 6.36
WHEE BEARING 8V0598611A 112.31
SPRINGS
BRAKES
FRONT DISCS 5Q0615301C ONLY WITH 5Q0698151G 123.39
FRONT PADS 5Q0698151G ONLY WITH 5Q0615301C 126.12
REAR DISCS 1K0615601N 54.13
REAR PADS 5Q0698451 118.98
Thank you to Volkswizard for helping me with the VIN
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Nice one! :cool:
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Are the front Calipers the same as GTI PP?
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Good post. Now I know I might be asking too much but I think it would be interesting to a lot of us to have the same list for the Clubsport and thus pinpoint unknown CS/CS-S differences or similarities. The other day I measured the rear arb on my CS and found it to be between 21.5-22mm so it seems as both CS variants share the same item in terms of rarb.
Cheers
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calipers the same as PP, just with a different plate saying Clubsport S
CALIPERS FRONT LEFT 5G0615123A
CALIPERS FRONT RIGHT 5G0615124A
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Good post. Now I know I might be asking too much but I think it would be interesting to a lot of us to have the same list for the Clubsport and thus pinpoint unknown CS/CS-S differences or similarities. The other day I measured the rear arb on my CS and found it to be between 21.5-22mm so it seems as both CS variants share the same item in terms of rarb.
Cheers
CS rear ARB is same as PP, only the CSS has the thicker 3.6mm rear ARB. they are all 21.7mm dia
Clubsport VS GTi PP
Sway Bars
CS = 5Q0411303N front anti roll bar (sway bar) 24mmx 3.8mm (same as GTI PP)
CS = 5Q0511305AT Rear anti roll bar (sway bar) 21.7 x 3mm (same as GTI PP)
FRONT SPRINGS 5Q0411105GD (GTi PP 5Q0411105CC)
FRONT SHOCK 5Q0413031FN (same as GTI PP)
STRUT MOUNT 5Q0412331D (same as GTI PP)
BUMPSTOP 1K0412303F (same as GTI PP)
REAR SPRING 5Q0511115HL (GTi PP 5Q0511115HM)
REAR SHOCK 5Q0513029GL (same as GTI PP)
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Good post. Now I know I might be asking too much but I think it would be interesting to a lot of us to have the same list for the Clubsport and thus pinpoint unknown CS/CS-S differences or similarities. The other day I measured the rear arb on my CS and found it to be between 21.5-22mm so it seems as both CS variants share the same item in terms of rarb.
Cheers
CS rear ARB is same as PP, only the CSS has the thicker 3.6mm rear ARB. they are all 21.7mm dia
Clubsport VS GTi PP
Sway Bars
CS = 5Q0411303N front anti roll bar (sway bar) 24mmx 3.8mm (same as GTI PP)
CS = 5Q0511305AT Rear anti roll bar (sway bar) 21.7 x 3mm (same as GTI PP)
FRONT SPRINGS 5Q0411105GD (GTi PP 5Q0411105CC)
FRONT SHOCK 5Q0413031FN (same as GTI PP)
STRUT MOUNT 5Q0412331D (same as GTI PP)
BUMPSTOP 1K0412303F (same as GTI PP)
REAR SPRING 5Q0511115HL (GTi PP 5Q0511115HM)
REAR SHOCK 5Q0513029GL (same as GTI PP)
I see, thanks.
Can you also provide the item numbers for adaptive dampers between PP, CS, CS-S?
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Here are a couple of pictures of the CS S struts if it helps
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/7AFF3506-5B93-4C1F-A9CE-4D3F8A6EEF08_zpsupv10hdf.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/7AFF3506-5B93-4C1F-A9CE-4D3F8A6EEF08_zpsupv10hdf.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/viperlee63/C308DA96-583A-4357-832A-93E0296E0242_zpscdglnamd.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/viperlee63/media/C308DA96-583A-4357-832A-93E0296E0242_zpscdglnamd.jpg.html)
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Can you get a part number for the cover inside the car that goes over the rear seat void?
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Can you get a part number for the cover inside the car that goes over the rear seat void?
I will have a look this afternoon at adaptive dampers and carpet, must do some work :whistle:
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Can you get a part number for the cover inside the car that goes over the rear seat void?
I can find every part (trim,bodywork,seats, sound insulation) except the carpet that covers that area on the CSS, how strange... :angry:
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Quick question - are the calipers and hubs the same on the CS-S and GTI PP?
If so, that would (hopefully) open up the chance of replacing with CS-S discs once worn.
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Good post. Now I know I might be asking too much but I think it would be interesting to a lot of us to have the same list for the Clubsport and thus pinpoint unknown CS/CS-S differences or similarities. The other day I measured the rear arb on my CS and found it to be between 21.5-22mm so it seems as both CS variants share the same item in terms of rarb.
Cheers
CS rear ARB is same as PP, only the CSS has the thicker 3.6mm rear ARB. they are all 21.7mm dia
Clubsport VS GTi PP
Sway Bars
CS = 5Q0411303N front anti roll bar (sway bar) 24mmx 3.8mm (same as GTI PP)
CS = 5Q0511305AT Rear anti roll bar (sway bar) 21.7 x 3mm (same as GTI PP)
FRONT SPRINGS 5Q0411105GD (GTi PP 5Q0411105CC)
FRONT SHOCK 5Q0413031FN (same as GTI PP)
STRUT MOUNT 5Q0412331D (same as GTI PP)
BUMPSTOP 1K0412303F (same as GTI PP)
REAR SPRING 5Q0511115HL (GTi PP 5Q0511115HM)
REAR SHOCK 5Q0513029GL (same as GTI PP)
I see, thanks.
Can you also provide the item numbers for adaptive dampers between PP, CS, CS-S?
if you let me have a reg of a CS with active dampers I can check.
I can say that the non adaptive CS and non adaptive GTI PP are the same.
Front 5Q0413031FN
Rears 5Q0513029GL
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Quick question - are the calipers and hubs the same on the CS-S and GTI PP?
If so, that would (hopefully) open up the chance of replacing with CS-S discs once worn.
The calipers are the same (part number on previous page are the same for both).
The hubs are different and so are the bearings, will the discs mount the same? You guess is as good as mine, but i wouldn't want to try it with my own money as i bet a special order at VW is non returnable...
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Quick question - are the calipers and hubs the same on the CS-S and GTI PP?
If so, that would (hopefully) open up the chance of replacing with CS-S discs once worn.
The calipers are the same (part number on previous page are the same for both).
The hubs are different and so are the bearings, will the discs mount the same? You guess is as good as mine, but i wouldn't want to try it with my own money as i bet a special order at VW is non returnable...
Aha, wasn't sure if they were CS or CS-S part numbers.
Like you say, I'll let someone else take the risk before going for it myself :wink:
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yeah I was thinking the same,
But think i will pick up the rear ARB its about 15% thicker so will be stiffer i hope...
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Meanwhile at the Ring:
"How do we make the a**e step out Karsten?"
"Wheel Frequency = 0.5 Pi by route K over M...... actually just add some roll bar Fritz, that'll make him hold on tight"
Could be a Ginetta paddock (sorry Simon).
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If you have a moment JT, I would be grateful to know whether the recaro bucket seat covers in the CS are one piece or whether you can order separate bits? In particular, could I order the right side bolster covers on the driver's side (base and back), together with the foam that goes in them? If so, I would be grateful for the part numbers - I'm anticipating that they will wear very quickly so I would like spares!
Also, what are the differences between the CS and CSS exhaust systems?
Many thanks.
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Meanwhile at the Ring:
"How do we make the a**e step out Karsten?"
"Wheel Frequency = 0.5 Pi by route K over M...... actually just add some roll bar Fritz, that'll make him hold on tight"
Could be a Ginetta paddock (sorry Simon).
:grin:
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It looks like the seat base and seat back are the only parts sold for the padded areas, so if the lower side bolster wears you need a seat base, and the same for the upper bolster.
The part number for the base is 5G0881375AD and its not a bad price £88 but the upper part is priced on application
I will post a pic up later this eve showing the part I mean
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It looks like the seat base and seat back are the only parts sold for the padded areas, so if the lower side bolster wears you need a seat base, and the same for the upper bolster.
The part number for the base is 5G0881375AD and its not a bad price £88 but the upper part is priced on application
I will post a pic up later this eve showing the part I mean
Thanks.
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(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g271/emmber2429/css%20seat_zpsvwndetld.png)
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^^^Many thanks JT. Have you had a chance to look at the difference in the exhaust systems of a CS and CSS? Cheers.
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Should be added to the front page of this thread soon including the CS rear brace and net :wink:
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^^Thanks, you're doing a grand job. :smiley:
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Good post. Now I know I might be asking too much but I think it would be interesting to a lot of us to have the same list for the Clubsport and thus pinpoint unknown CS/CS-S differences or similarities. The other day I measured the rear arb on my CS and found it to be between 21.5-22mm so it seems as both CS variants share the same item in terms of rarb.
Cheers
As an aside just fitted Neuspeed rear ARB 25mm The turn in is much improved and feels much more stable :smiley:
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Can you check and see if Mudflaps are listed for the CSS
Cheers
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if you let me have a reg of a CS with active dampers I can check.
I can say that the non adaptive CS and non adaptive GTI PP are the same.
Front 5Q0413031FN
Rears 5Q0513029GL
I don't have a UK car but I just found this from a VW ad: LC66WYW (CS with DCC)
In principle they should be the same as the only difference should be in springs (at least according to the CS-S press release) but you never know...
Have to say what I great thread and respect to you for the time you spend on it. Makes a CS to CS-S project a very simple job for whoever is after it. That was actually my plan before getting my CS (track down suspension differences and replace all the CS-S bespoke items) but it honestly feels so good as it is (much much better and balanced than all previously suspension tuned cars I had) that I don't think I will bother for a mere 3-4 trackdays per year.
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Would like to know the part number for the CS DSG gear knob please - just love those red accents on it :wink:
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@ Sean G Mudflaps are the same as GTI (dont let Booth on here see you ask for this :wink:)
@scanesare CS and CSS active dampers are the same 5Q0413031ED
@ Dave7268 DSG Clubsport gear stick 5G1713203Q
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@ Sean G Mudflaps are the same as GTI (dont let Booth on here see you ask for this :wink:)
@scanesare CS and CSS active dampers are the same 5Q0413031ED
@ Dave7268 DSG Clubsport gear stick 5G1713203Q
Cheers appreciate that I know they aren't every body's cup of tea but roads round here are poor and they will help protect the body work
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@ Sean G Mudflaps are the same as GTI (dont let Booth on here see you ask for this :wink:)
@scanesare CS and CSS active dampers are the same 5Q0413031ED
@ Dave7268 DSG Clubsport gear stick 5G1713203Q
Cheers appreciate that I know they aren't every body's cup of tea but roads round here are poor and they will help protect the body work
Nice one JT - thanks for the part number :wink:
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Just a word of caution on the rear CSS strut bar.
Someone on another forum asked about this, and thought it was a rear strut bar in the traditional sense of increasing rigidity to the rear. however I think from looking at the pictures and location of its fixings, it is only a cosmetic bar for the purpose of supporting the net and isn't a strut bar in the sense of how we would describe/use it. It looks like it secures to the small rear seat locking u shape bars in the upper seat location on the normal cars and is only lightly secured.
I would like to be wrong but...
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/\ That's correct
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Wouldn't go anywhere near that with a harness then :sick:
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I was hoping I was wrong but the omission of a proper fixed bar is a shame, I think its a missed opportunity for track day users.
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The reason why I have the cage with the appropriate harness bar and Harnessess
Just need to fit it
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The reason why I have the cage with the appropriate harness bar and Harnessess
Just need to fit it
Love a good bit of scaffolding in a car, don't forget to post pics... :wink:
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+1
Glad at least one CSS is being used for what it was built for.
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@ Sean G Mudflaps are the same as GTI (dont let Booth on here see you ask for this :wink:)
@scanesare CS and CSS active dampers are the same 5Q0413031ED
@ Dave7268 DSG Clubsport gear stick 5G1713203Q
Cheers appreciate that I know they aren't every body's cup of tea but roads round here are poor and they will help protect the body work
Dealer just checked for me and says like the Golf R the mudflats don't fit
They are fine for the front but the rears won't fit
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Thanks for the update Sean, sorry I was wrong on the Mud flaps for the rear.
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Hi all, I pick my Clubsport, not an S, up next week. I'd love to know what the difference is in the hubs. you can get extra camber easily without the hassle of hubs. Also the aluminum subframe which I'm guessing is an Audi S3/RS3 part. I'll upgrade to CSS disks though as there good value and 1kg lighter per corner.
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Holy thread revival!!!
Looking for part numbers and costing for the recaro seat cushion and covers both bottom and back. Got a feeling these will wear quickly so just wondering what the cost is. If possible?
Many thanks.
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^^^^^ The part numbers were in the thread but they have disappeared. However, I did take a copy at the time!
(https://s31.postimg.org/5nqookcbf/clubsport_bucket_parts_nos.png)
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are you able to check other par numbers?
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are you able to check other par numbers?
Jackie Treehorn can, he kindly posted all the part number extracts. If he doesn't join the discussion, maybe PM him.
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Many thanks for that dude. Any idea what the cost is for part number 55? I’ll be sitting down when you tell me. Lol