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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GT4 on 20 November 2016, 20:26

Title: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 20 November 2016, 20:26
Hi everyone

Just wondered how many of you were contemplating putting a Paint Protection Film on your pride and joy? And if so what suppliers and Cost ...??

Andrew
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: volkswizard on 20 November 2016, 20:48
I had it on my Mk7 Golf R front end (3M)
Wished I hadn't after a trip to Italy in July when the bugs stained it
3M's response was "what does he expect, it protected the paint didn't it?"
It did save some big chips I suppose but I think I'd rather repaint the bumper when the time comes as I had to replace the damaged sections which costs too.

Viper GTS is having his done with Ventureshield...
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: jjgreenwood on 20 November 2016, 21:24
Asked about it but for full wrap it was over £2k. Don't want a part wrap as it gets dirty round the edges. Not gonna pay £2k so it's a no go.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 20 November 2016, 22:11
Yes, mine is booked in for next Tuesday 29th  :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh:

No chance

I'm only having the front end done and the leading edges.

Not sure on cost tbh but they use the new gear that self heals. My Woman has it on her M3 and works well. Well no bug marks which I know I've had on previous jobs
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 20 November 2016, 22:37
I got my GT4 done with PPF and protected with gtechniq before pick up - the cost was £3200 I think ... expensive but worth it - it cleans with just a blast from the Jet washer with the gtechniq coating - Here's the GT4 getting done ...  :grin:

http://reepdetailing.co.uk/portfolio.php?galleryCat=203
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GeoBog on 20 November 2016, 23:15
Had my GTI done at Topaz with their self healing PPF. A bit pricey but worth it. After owning my previous 2014 GTI for over 2 years I managed to get a lot of stone chips on the bonet and front bumper so didn't risk the same with my 2016 GTI.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 November 2016, 07:43
When the film treatment costs more than a corrective respray at the end of your ownership, I can see why not many people go for these films. It's like having a buildings insurance policy that costs more than the rebuild cost of the house. If I could get the bonnet, front wings and front bumper done for £200 then i'd be in, but the prices you see for this treatment are ridiculous IMO.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 21 November 2016, 08:04
When the film treatment costs more than a corrective respray at the end of your ownership, I can see why not many people go for these films. It's like having a buildings insurance policy that costs more than the rebuild cost of the house. If I could get the bonnet, front wings and front bumper done for £200 then i'd be in, but the prices you see for this treatment are ridiculous IMO.

The problem is that it's difficult finding a decent paintshop coupled with the fact you then own a car that's had paint and will always make the next owner suspicious.

Personally, original paint is best and I'll do anything to maintain it
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GeoBog on 21 November 2016, 09:39

The problem is that it's difficult finding a decent paintshop coupled with the fact you then own a car that's had paint and will always make the next owner suspicious.

Personally, original paint is best and I'll do anything to maintain it

^this
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 21 November 2016, 13:16
I would say it depends on how long you intend to keep the car 🚗 I agree with viper that original paint is important on a collectors car but you never get your money back on the PPF come re-sale time - you just make it an added feature for the next owner so really he gets all the benefit. I am in two minds, after all this is not a Ferrari only a humble VW so does it really justify the £££ and will the kind of person buying a Cs-S in 3 years time really be bothered about PPF versus and few stone chips that can easily be blown/touched in ....???!!!!!!
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 21 November 2016, 13:21
Doing track days the chips can be brutal, especially if its wet

For me it would be like walking down the high street with your flies down and your willy hanging out....very exposed  :grin:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 21 November 2016, 13:25
Doing track days the chips can be brutal, especially if its wet

For me it would be like walking down the high street with your flies down and your willy hanging out....very exposed  :grin:

Viper - I like you analogy ... and I do see your point - if I was doing a track day I would take the GT4 Clubsport  :grin:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: volkswizard on 21 November 2016, 13:46

The problem is that it's difficult finding a decent paintshop coupled with the fact you then own a car that's had paint and will always make the next owner suspicious.

Personally, original paint is best and I'll do anything to maintain it

^this

Have you had a Mk7 Golf before?!
Had to get my R front bumper done after 300 miles as lacquer looked sand blasted.
Repaint at VW's expense was way more durable.
Might just have been teething problems with the then new Lapiz Blue but I think plastic doesn't get heated cured as much as metal so paint was still soft
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 21 November 2016, 17:23
Had VW before, but not for a long while although I have a MK1 GTI that I've had for 23 years which is a track weapon soon to have 400 horses, about 350 too many

My last track toys were a 997 GT3 RS and an R26R both of which were protected but I only had to look at the windscreens to see the damage that was saved from my paint  :cool:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: JamesR27 on 21 November 2016, 20:52
If you are not doing track days with the car and do not want to pay the amount for PPF what about trying a glass coat.

It's obviously not as good as stone chip protection but will help and helps reduce scratches and general issues. I have had one on mine and been very impressed over the last 2 years especially on a carbon grey car.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 21 November 2016, 20:56
If you are not doing track days with the car and do not want to pay the amount for PPF what about trying a glass coat.

It's obviously not as good as stone chip protection but will help and helps reduce scratches and general issues. I have had one on mine and been very impressed over the last 2 years especially on a carbon grey car.
James .... what is a glass coat may I ask ...? Andrew
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: JamesR27 on 21 November 2016, 21:15
Best I can describe is that the car is prepped to ensure the surface is clean, then you apply a single coat or coating system to the car so it acts as a topcoat which is the layer that takes the surface issues.
Topped and washed in the right way can last for 2-3 years

Here is a video of one type of coating and depends where you live to which detailer can do which coating.

https://youtu.be/Xy9RFjRs-yo

Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: volkswizard on 21 November 2016, 22:01
Had VW before, but not for a long while although I have a MK1 GTI that I've had for 23 years which is a track weapon soon to have 400 horses, about 350 too many

My last track toys were a 997 GT3 RS and an R26R both of which were protected but I only had to look at the windscreens to see the damage that was saved from my paint  :cool:

Fair point, for a track day car it's a good idea.
I had a look at a Driving Experience R8 the other day, 3000 miles and the only bit of the front end that wasn't PPF protected were the very expensive laser headlamps which were heavily sand blasted
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 21 November 2016, 22:45
Yea ... it's interesting how they don't PPF the headlamps - something to do with MOT I believe ...?
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 22 November 2016, 07:49
Yea ... it's interesting how they don't PPF the headlamps - something to do with MOT I believe ...?

I've always had my headlamps done
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 November 2016, 07:55
Yea ... it's interesting how they don't PPF the headlamps - something to do with MOT I believe ...?

Quite possible that it will affect beam focus on the headlight housing, might not quite be as transparent as the casing itself.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: matchboy on 22 November 2016, 13:27
I got my GT4 done with PPF and protected with gtechniq before pick up - the cost was £3200 I think ... expensive but worth it - it cleans with just a blast from the Jet washer with the gtechniq coating - Here's the GT4 getting done ...  :grin:

http://reepdetailing.co.uk/portfolio.php?galleryCat=203

Amazing car, awesome colour!
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: kalimon on 22 November 2016, 14:54
That's got to be one of the best looking cars I've seen in a long time :drool:
What the hell are you doing buying a Golf :laugh:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 22 November 2016, 15:47
That's got to be one of the best looking cars I've seen in a long time :drool:
What the hell are you doing buying a Golf :laugh:

Thanks for your kind words ... The GT4 is a beautiful car and with the Gards red and Satin black makes a nice combination 😍
I agree the Golf pales into insignificance next to the GT4 but still a great car in its own right and just as collectible - after all there are around 2000 GT4's in the world and only 400 CS-S so will be interesting to see which car holds onto its value better ...???!
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: kalimon on 22 November 2016, 15:52
That's got to be one of the best looking cars I've seen in a long time :drool:
What the hell are you doing buying a Golf :laugh:

Thanks for your kind words ... The GT4 is a beautiful car and with the Gards red and Satin black makes a nice combination 😍
I agree the Golf pales into insignificance next to the GT4 but still a great car in its own right and just as collectible - after all there are around 2000 GT4's in the world and only 400 CS-S so will be interesting to see which car holds onto its value better ...???!
All I can say is enjoy them all, especially that beautiful GT4  :smiley:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: volkswizard on 22 November 2016, 22:03
Yea ... it's interesting how they don't PPF the headlamps - something to do with MOT I believe ...?

Quite possible that it will affect beam focus on the headlight housing, might not quite be as transparent as the casing itself.

Clunky plastic headlamp protectors don't seem to affect MOT.
I wonder if heat affects the PPF, the laser lights might be a special case.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 22 November 2016, 22:25
I had the lights done on my old Pork, it's also on my FGT and there's no issues at all with MOT
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: TurboTrev on 23 November 2016, 08:05
Here's a youtube video of Reep actually doing a PPF on the bonnet of a Clubsport:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It8fKeanEcw
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 23 November 2016, 11:24
Here's a youtube video of Reep actually doing a PPF on the bonnet of a Clubsport:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It8fKeanEcw

Thanks Trev ...  :wink:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: Clubsport S on 23 November 2016, 19:44
Only took 52 seconds to install so can't believe they charge so much 😁😂😁
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GTD22 on 23 November 2016, 20:00
Only took 52 seconds to install so can't believe they charge so much 😁😂😁

That's what I thought, they do work quite quick though.
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 23 November 2016, 21:48
I think it is a total racket - £2k for a plastic film .... I am sure in time will prices will reducer as demand grows so costs reduce and competition from fitter increases. Dealerships like Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren should really do it in house rather than farm out and lose added sales   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 November 2016, 06:42
Not really sure why everyone's bothering, nothing will stop stone chips!
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 November 2016, 07:33
Only took 52 seconds to install so can't believe they charge so much 😁😂😁

Your money is much like that film made for 17 year old Halfords enthusiasts - "Gone in 60 seconds"!  :grin:

Way too much money for what it is and how much labour is(n't) involved. I suppose their point of view is that the typical buyer is bringing a £80k+ car in...they can afford it!
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: GT4 on 07 December 2016, 21:42
Got quote for front end PPF and swiisvax polish at £1200 plus vat .... any thoughts ???!
Title: Re: PPF for Clubsport & Clubsport S cars
Post by: vipergts on 07 December 2016, 22:56
Mine is currently in for full frontal inc roof and side prone parts

Not sure on cost but I dare say I'll find out when I collect it