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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Walts on 13 November 2016, 18:53
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If the original alloys are 18" and fitted with 225/40/18 would I be ok with a 17" alloy for winter fitted with 225/50/17??
Thanks for any advice
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VW recommend size 205/50R17 for a winter tyre set up for the GTI/GTD
225/50/R17 would throw the speedo calibration out : https://tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/
225/45/R17 would keep the speedo calibration correct
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Some good advice here...
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275014.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275014.0)
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I use 205 55 16 on mine (on Audi A3 wheels).
Can't use snow chains as it's a 6.5" wide wheel but hey cheap to get those wheels.
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Thanks for the replies folks, all the best
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hi Peter
Iv just got a set of steelies with 205/55/16 dunlop winter sport 5 tyres on them after reading numerous posts n got a set of trims off that large selling site that has links to a jungle lol :whistle:
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When I was last in Germany checking out the 2nd hand cars, every single one, without exception had a set of winter wheels and tyres strapped in the boot.
For those interested its what the 'lashing points' in the boot are actually there for.
I believe its the law to use winter tyres in Germany and in some other countries.
However, my point is that all the wheels in those German VWs without exception, were the basic steel rims, not one of the 200 or more used cars on show had alloys rims for the winter tyres.
As another word of caution I have seen an alloy wheel, fitted to a working Range Rover, strip the spokes from the tyre rim when it was bogged down when the driver was over zelous with the throttle.
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There are plenty with alloys for winter wheels, I would say majority. Depends on type of car you're looking at.
Cheaper trim levels people tend to go for cheap steel wheels.
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When I was last in Germany checking out the 2nd hand cars, every single one, without exception had a set of winter wheels and tyres strapped in the boot.
For those interested its what the 'lashing points' in the boot are actually there for.
I believe its the law to use winter tyres in Germany and in some other countries.
However, my point is that all the wheels in those German VWs without exception, were the basic steel rims, not one of the 200 or more used cars on show had alloys rims for the winter tyres.
As another word of caution I have seen an alloy wheel, fitted to a working Range Rover, strip the spokes from the tyre rim when it was bogged down when the driver was over zelous with the throttle.
Not too sure that is what the lashing point are for. If that was all they were for then I'm sure VW would come up with a cheaper option. Plus how would you connect the four points for the really overpriced net.
All new car there come with winter wheels/tyres.
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However, my point is that all the wheels in those German VWs without exception, were the basic steel rims, not one of the 200 or more used cars on show had alloys rims for the winter tyres.
I couldn't get 17" steel wheels that were 7.5j when looking last year, so I reused my 17" alloys off my Mk5 GTi
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All new car there come with winter wheels/tyres.
Only if you order them. And a lot of people don't.... then go and buy aftermarket ones for a fair bit less.
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When I was last in Germany checking out the 2nd hand cars, every single one, without exception had a set of winter wheels and tyres strapped in the boot.
For those interested its what the 'lashing points' in the boot are actually there for.
I believe its the law to use winter tyres in Germany and in some other countries.
However, my point is that all the wheels in those German VWs without exception, were the basic steel rims, not one of the 200 or more used cars on show had alloys rims for the winter tyres.
As another word of caution I have seen an alloy wheel, fitted to a working Range Rover, strip the spokes from the tyre rim when it was bogged down when the driver was over zelous with the throttle.
Not too sure that is what the lashing point are for. If that was all they were for then I'm sure VW would come up with a cheaper option. Plus how would you connect the four points for the really overpriced net.
All new car there come with winter wheels/tyres.
Well Im only saying what I saw personally.
The lashing points I refer to are the two chrome steel things, not the flimsy plastic net hooks.
At the time I was accompanied by a german colleague who explained it all to me, also saying the boot width on all garman made cars is statutory to enable a set of winter wheels to fit in side by side.
Next time I'm over there I will take a pic to post on here.
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When I was last in Germany checking out the 2nd hand cars, every single one, without exception had a set of winter wheels and tyres strapped in the boot.
For those interested its what the 'lashing points' in the boot are actually there for.
I believe its the law to use winter tyres in Germany and in some other countries.
However, my point is that all the wheels in those German VWs without exception, were the basic steel rims, not one of the 200 or more used cars on show had alloys rims for the winter tyres.
As another word of caution I have seen an alloy wheel, fitted to a working Range Rover, strip the spokes from the tyre rim when it was bogged down when the driver was over zelous with the throttle.
Not too sure that is what the lashing point are for. If that was all they were for then I'm sure VW would come up with a cheaper option. Plus how would you connect the four points for the really overpriced net.
All new car there come with winter wheels/tyres.
Well Im only saying what I saw personally.
The lashing points I refer to are the two chrome steel things, not the flimsy plastic net hooks.
At the time I was accompanied by a german colleague who explained it all to me, also saying the boot width on all garman made cars is statutory to enable a set of winter wheels to fit in side by side.
Next time I'm over there I will take a pic to post on here.
Aren't all 4 lashing points metal? There wouldn't be much point in having plastic ones.
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All new car there come with winter wheels/tyres.
Only if you order them. And a lot of people don't.... then go and buy aftermarket ones for a fair bit less.
So there are no longer part of the price of the car?
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All new car there come with winter wheels/tyres.
Only if you order them. And a lot of people don't.... then go and buy aftermarket ones for a fair bit less.
So there are no longer part of the price of the car?
Ah, now your asking the right questions.
The same questions Im always asking when the Warning Triangle is absent on a UK Golf but present on a the same car bought on the Continent.
New car dealers are just upgraded used car salesmen imo, and get up to all the scams they think they can get away with, especially if the manufacturers dont keep a tight grip on them.
Eg; no triangle, no saftey vests, no spare bulb kit, with no first aid kit, nothing too much trouble when your buying or haven't completed the feedback form but cold and dismissive thereafter.
Ive even had my 'full tank of petrol' run out in less than 50miles from one dealer yet be told and received a 3/4 full tank with my latest motor.
Likewise advertising, I will not display a dealer advert across my back window or on my number plate surround, they must pay to display if thats what they want.
My present dealer knows what I think and omits all such advertising, which is better than watching me remove it all on their forecourt I suppose.
Excuse the rant but I feel that when you buy a quality product you have a perfect right to expect a level of service of a similar standard.
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Usually they are extra - i.e. not included in the car price.
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The reason cars on the continent get warning triangle, vests, spare bulb kit and first aid kit is because it is mandatory. None of those items are mandatory in the uk so we don't get them as standard.
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The reason cars on the continent get warning triangle, vests, spare bulb kit and first aid kit is because it is mandatory. None of those items are mandatory in the uk so we don't get them as standard.
And the French Police love to pull UK plated cars over to check if you have these (and a disposable breathalyser) just for fun and issue you with a fine if you don't have them.
Since the Brexit decision I bet many of the other EU members will be going out of their way to do the same.
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I've just put a set of Michelin Alpins on my TSW Nurburgrings which are 18"on the R estate.
I ran higher profiles and narrower tyres and for 90% of the time was fed up with the softer side walls and reduced contact patch.
Bedded them in and have to say over the last few days they have been coping better than the Brdgestones
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I've got 18" MSW Type 19 wheels with Nokian WRA3 winter tyres on my GTI PP
Temperature was minus 6 near Aberdeen this morning and they felt reassuring.
Hoping for some decent snow soon to really put them to the test.
Managed to pick them up 2nd hand and unmarked for £350 which I thought was a bit of a bargain.
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Hoping for some decent snow soon to really put them to the test.
Yeah, I could not wait to test my winter tyres too. They do give a lot of confidence. However, I had a few near misses, because I was driving (like an idiot) to fast for the conditions.
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[quote author=monkeyhanger And the French Police love to pull UK plated cars over to check if you have these (and a disposable breathalyser) just for fun and issue you with a fine if you don't have them.[/quote]
When you live or drive someone else's country the common sense rule is to obey their laws, to the letter!
I have lived and driven all over Europe and different statutory equipment laws are the norm. its a real pain sometimes but its not our country and as guests we are obliged to respect its Laws (or have a credit card handy :whistle:).
BTW the disposable breathalyser isn't required any more so you can play with yours over the next few weeks :whistle:.
However you can be sure that once were outside the EU the Gendarmerie will probably require us to stop and remove the EU flag from our number plates should anyone be so daft as to continue to display it.
Tip; new cars can now be plated without it :wink:
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MikeJ: I would carry those things required, not advicating not doing so. Just iterating that the French love to pull Brits over for a check, hoping to issue a fine. You are not currently obliged to have GB EU plates, nor have you ever been, but if you don't, you need a GB sticker/sign stuck to your car.
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I haven't ever been pulled over in France, nor in Germany, Holland, Belgium, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Austria on UK plates.
You need to give them a reason, same as in the UK. Which is why I keep my car looking standard, no need to attract police attention.
Though I think my new GTD is worse for that then my boring estate.....
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Yes me to.
Never been stopped anywhere in Europe except by the Portuguese PSP when I was less than 400m from my house.
My immediate problem was that I was not displaying my Insurance ID on my windscreen, my saving grace was the cop knew me and that my neighbour was the Chief of Police, so I was allowed to drive home and collect it (from my stupid wife's handbag) and return to show I actually had it on display.
When in Germany I stopped to ask the Autobahn Police for some directions they were very helpful but failed to notice that the German registered car I was driving had an out of date Tax, MOT and thus invalid insurance.
I was delivering the car for a very wealthy German friend who had given me his complete assurance everything was completely legal, some friend!!!!
(That was the third time where a German acquaintance had told me a bare faced lie, and the last time I have ever trusted one).
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.......so I was allowed to drive home and collect it (from my stupid wife's handbag)........
Was your "stupid wife" driving? :shocked:
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.......so I was allowed to drive home and collect it (from my stupid wife's handbag)........
Was your "stupid wife" driving? :shocked:
No, but she told me she had done it when she had driven the car earlier, not an excuse as your point is quite correct, the driver should ensured a car is legally compliant, but after 30+ years of marriage you (or I did) trust your wife.
What a mistake that turned out to be when I later discovered she had been syphoning our joint account for nearly twenty years.
Fortunately my barrister recovered it all when I divorced her!
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What a mistake that turned out to be when I later discovered she had been syphoning our joint account for nearly twenty years.
Fortunately my barrister recovered it all when I divorced her!
:grin:
That's fair enough then :grin: :laugh:
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Here in Sweden there is a law to use winter tires 1st December to last march. I had some different tires, 16" on my Golf and 17" on my CC but my experiance is that when you go above 16" and 205 width the grip is terrible. But we probable got some other climate then UK. I used to have tires with studs but the last 10 years I have choosen Nordic winter tires without studs. There is a Europeean type of winter tires as well and that has better grip on wet surfaces just above zero degrees. I would recomend 205/55 16" tires because if you get snow any wider gives very bad grip in the snow, the tires just rides above the snow. Just look what tires rally cars uses at the winter rally here in sweden.
Hope my nordic eye on the issue gave you some info.
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Hi GTD,
What you say is exactly what we used on our Land Rovers which were driven almost constantly off road in deep mud and water.
The narrow tyres/tires would cut through the mud and get down to the harder flimt and stone where they could get a grip whereas the wider tyres just skated over the top and the vehicle went off in all directions.
Never driven in studs by I would imagine it could be fun on packed snow.