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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Wrex22 on 06 October 2016, 21:22
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Had my gti with 9000 miles on the clock for a couple of months and I'm getting 34mpg. I'd do 300 miles a week for work covering 20 miles of dual carriage way and 30 miles of A roads with minimal in town driving daily. I'm seriously considering swapping to a gtd due to fuel economy, my question really is it worth it? Am I likely to get close to 50mpg from the diesel? I'm filling up with over £50 a week in unleaded ATM and Christ does that fuel gauge go down quick, it usually tells me 350 mile range on a full tank.
I'm planning on going to look at a black 5 door 16 plate gtd with 6000 miles on the clock. I currently have a 3 door in carbon grey , I do like the exhaust layout and the alloys of the gti tho :/
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Tyre pressures or driving style are most likely the reason for low mpg, if you do little town driving on your commute. If it's your driving style then I doubt you will get near 50mpg. If you modify your style you may do, but you will also get more from the Gti
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You will probably lose quite a bit in depreciation if you swap your car plus if you buy a GTD you will have to fill up from the wrong pump.
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Surely the gains in fuel economy would be swallowed by the depreciation when changing cars.
Edit - snap Bungleaio
I am going the other way from GTD to GTI. I get 44 Mpg at the moment so thinking I should get around 34 Mpg with the GTI.
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Does the gtd not hold its value well?
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Hi there! Obviously there are variables but assuming you get a reasonably steady run of it, you should comfortably get 40mpg from your GTI. I've had 50 before, incredibly boring admittedly, and slow, and that was on a 19 mile run on the motorway. In the summer I can get 35 on a 5.3 mile commute from cold! So rather than change and probably lose a big pile of cash, why not see what improvements you can do with what you've got? Mine is a manual, if yours is a DSG then perhaps it won't have quite the same potential but I really do think there's big room for improvement. If you are enjoying driving a bit too much for economy, save that for your days off?
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I did 145 miles on motorway and A roads yesterday in my MK6 GTD DSG. The car said the average fuel economy was over 60mpg. My car has over 100k on it - so it is well run-in.
When I fill up the car usually says 600 miles.
I'm planning on getting a GTI PP next year. I'm expecting a performance increase and fuel economy decrease. I'll need a few test drives to see if the performance increase is worth it.
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All this "filling up from the wrong pump" nonsense is hardly a help even if it is in jest. I've currently got a tiguan R line and have just ordered a gti pp. Some days I'm only getting 30mpg out of the tiguan but others it's 40mpg and that's taking the same route. When I had the gtd I couldn't get above 45mpg even on a run no matter which way I drove even when i was trying for maximum efficiency. I only used esso or shell fuel and the tyres checked every week. I reckon I'll get either the same or better from the gti as what I'm getting now from the tiguan and its 40 quid a month cheaper :grin:
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I've just done some quick sums based on your GTI doing 34mpg and a GTD doing an optimistic 50mpg over your weekly 300 miles. The fuel costs are worked out using regular fuel at current prices local to me. The GTI will cost £45.27/week, whereas the GTD will be £31.33/week. The GTD will save you £13.94/week, or £724.88/year.
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If you're getting 34mpg in a GTI, you should be able to do 50mpg easily enough in a GTD. I'm getting 33mpg ave driving my R on my 20 mile each way commute. If i'd had the GTD still when I started this job i'd have been doing 55mpg in the Summer on the commute. Just drove the wife's A1 1.6 TDI to work today and driving it hard i averaged 63mpg.
Motorway speeds kill mpg in the GTI and R. At 80mph in 6th they"re doing 3100rpm while the GTD is doing just 2200rpm. If you're always driving 60-80mph I think you've done ok to average 34mpg.
You need to weigh up £1000pa fuel savings vs the cost of chopping in so early. I'd wait until the GTI is at least 18 months old before the initial sting of depreciation fades.
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Does the gtd not hold its value well?
Better than the GTI. You can always put a box on a GTD (you can on a GTI too, but i'd worry about clutch slip on a GTI or R, the GTD's seems far more resilient).
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As mentioned a few times here its the driving style that's the key. I think there is approx. 10mpg between the 2 cars if you compare like for like styles and also the same daily run.
I have just swapped a GTI PP Manual owned by my wife for a GTD DSG, for no more reason that she fancied a change and I needed a new car for the change in commute to work.
Its got 2000 miles on it now and the 64 round trip to work I am getting 49-52 mpg. Steady cruising on the A15 where 55mph is the fastest you get to, then the rest on a flowing M180 set at 75mph. Same trip in the GTI PP was about 38mpg.
I am sure you can get the mpg well down in the low 40's on the GTD ragging it about!
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I've just done some quick sums based on your GTI doing 34mpg and a GTD doing an optimistic 50mpg over your weekly 300 miles. The fuel costs are worked out using regular fuel at current prices local to me. The GTI will cost £45.27/week, whereas the GTD will be £31.33/week. The GTD will save you £13.94/week, or £724.88/year.
My GTD averaged around 45mpg (calculated) and, on the same basis, my GTI is averaging around 35mpg, so that £725 saving is probably going to be more like £650. Of course there will be another few quid off the RFL and your insurance may be a bit less, but it adds up to not much, when you look at what you will loose, if you change. I only do around 7.5K miles a year, but I swapped my GTD for a GTI, at 2 years, because I just could not love the GTD. It's an awesome piece of kit, but a bit soulless. I reckon that, if you have £30Kish sitting on the drive, there should be some love! You might find yourself missing your GTI more than you think!
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....it usually tells me 350 mile range on a full tank.
I've seen me barely get 400 miles out of my GTD at times so the grass may not always be greener although in saying that if I drive like a nun for the full tank which is extremely boring and frustrating, I can get nearly the 500 miles out of it :grin:
Have you only had your GTI a couple of months?
It will depend how much you lose in the changeover. It could be as much as £3-4k. Would you see that in fuel savings over the term of car ownership?
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Wow, the poor GTD is getting a bit of a battering here, so I'll have to even things up :-)
I've had two MK7 GTD's now, and both have (are) been great cars. 95% of the looks of a GTI, 90% of the handling, 100% of the braking (PP aside), and around 80-85% of the performance. I can easily average high 50's in my DSG equipped GTD, so would expect a manual to easily break 60 mpg on a good run. On my usual work commute, over the 5500 in the new GTD I've averaged 47.1, with a worst low (40 mins stuck on the M62), of 39.1 mpg. I also personally think the GTD is the better looking car (no red accents in the lights and seats), and in standard guise has better looking alloys (Negaros vs Austins), but I get that this is totally subjective (and can partially be fixed by upgrading to the 19" Santiago alloys).
So, i would wholeheartedly prefer the GTD over the GTI ?....well no. In an ideal world, as good as the GTD is (and it's very good), there really is no substitute for a petrol engine, so the GTI would still be my first choice if mileage wasn't' an issue. But I really think that people who have never owned a GTD or had use of one or a good time, should stop all this silly "diesel is the devils choice" etc. as the differences in real world performance, isn't as great as you may think, and short of a good BMW 6 cylinder diesel lump, the EA288 2 liter diesel engine, is one of the more flexible, refined and usable units on the market.
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Excellent Andrew, sensible as always :wink:
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If you're getting 34mpg in a GTI, you should be able to do 50mpg easily enough in a GTD. I'm getting 33mpg ave driving my R on my 20 mile each way commute. If i'd had the GTD still when I started this job i'd have been doing 55mpg in the Summer on the commute. Just drove the wife's A1 1.6 TDI to work today and driving it hard i averaged 63mpg.
Motorway speeds kill mpg in the GTI and R. At 80mph in 6th they"re doing 3100rpm while the GTD is doing just 2200rpm. If you're always driving 60-80mph I think you've done ok to average 34mpg.
You need to weigh up £1000pa fuel savings vs the cost of chopping in so early. I'd wait until the GTI is at least 18 months old before the initial sting of depreciation fades.
60-80 avg in a GTi will get you more than 34mpg it's all about driving style, and it doesn't require driving like a granny either.. if someone is getting 34mpg from a GTi and your getting 33mpg on a similar route, then its possibly the driving style. The Gti and R are not that close on mpg in like for like situations
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Did a 200 mile cross country trip on Monday, 50/50 motorway/A roads, at silly speeds and got just over 33mpg. As said, the car is averaging 35, so mileage not destroyed, by any means.
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If you're getting 34mpg in a GTI, you should be able to do 50mpg easily enough in a GTD. I'm getting 33mpg ave driving my R on my 20 mile each way commute. If i'd had the GTD still when I started this job i'd have been doing 55mpg in the Summer on the commute. Just drove the wife's A1 1.6 TDI to work today and driving it hard i averaged 63mpg.
Motorway speeds kill mpg in the GTI and R. At 80mph in 6th they"re doing 3100rpm while the GTD is doing just 2200rpm. If you're always driving 60-80mph I think you've done ok to average 34mpg.
You need to weigh up £1000pa fuel savings vs the cost of chopping in so early. I'd wait until the GTI is at least 18 months old before the initial sting of depreciation fades.
60-80 avg in a GTi will get you more than 34mpg it's all about driving style, and it doesn't require driving like a granny either.. if someone is getting 34mpg from a GTi and your getting 33mpg on a similar route, then its possibly the driving style. The Gti and R are not that close on mpg in like for like situations
I quoted motorway cruising speeds, where driving style has a very low impact if you're maintaining a speed uninterrupted, whether that be 60/70/80mph. Petrols really see their economy tail off at these speeds, far more than diesels do . The OP would have to be driving like a maniac on clear roads or be stuck in traffic to do less than 53mpg in a manual or 48mpg in a DSG GTD given the length of his commute IMO. If you're doing a steady 40mph in moderate traffic then a GTI or R aren't massively thirstier than a GTD. Traffic kills diesel economy, motorway speeds really hammer petrol economy due to the lower gearing.
There's not a huge difference in mpg like for like between the GTI and R (manual for manual, DSG for DSG, same driving style) - it's about 4mpg in reality, and it's only 7mpg on paper. Comparing a manual 3 door GTI to a DSG 5 door R is apples and oranges. On my old commute, traffic a little busier, only 10 miles instead of 20, I got 30mpg. Even though the petrols are a lot quicker to warm up, you do see the difference in mpg between shorter and longer journeys, it's just not so pronounced.
Changing your driving style is probably the hardest thing you can do, and it's the reason why so many people quote so many different mpgs.
I'd probably do a bit better than the OP is quoting, in his car, given his commute and my driving style, if his GTI is a manual, if it's DSG then i'd say that i'd probably be around that same ballpark.
No point buying a hot hatch and drive it like a nun to chase 40mpg. If you're getting 70-80% of quoted combined figures without having to do a constant 55-60mph everywhere then you're doing alright - easier to achieve with a manual because despite the official figures are almost identical, real life driving sees the DSG almost 10% thirstier.
There's a huge difference in mpg between driving 60mph on the motorway and 80mph. The best I ever did in my GTD was a 200 mile round trip from Newcastle to Leeds- maintaining 80mph on the motorway, aircon on all the way in the height of Summer and got 58mpg for the trip. If i'd done 70mph it would've been around 65mpg, and doing 60 on the same stretch would've been pushing 70mpg. I think Sootchucker has proven that on some of his mpg challenges.
The GTD is thirsty on short journeys, once it is warmed up it does much better, and on the OP's long commute, most of the journey will be with a hot engine - 50mpg without driving like a nun in those circumstances should not be a bother.
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I still think some of your figures aren't 100% correct, the GTi is at 2800 rpm at 80 for a start, also your never likely to maintain an AVG on a UK motorway unless it's 2am. And the OP has a mixture of roads on a commute? So the comparison drawn may not relate to the actual use.
I guess we will agree to differ, however not sure the cure to this is a change in car based on present info... (Not saying you were suggesting changing the car)
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I'm getting 50mpg average in my GTD.Drops to about 45 in the Winter.Mix of roads/traffic.
As others have said.You will very likely get your pants well and truly pulled down if you trade in.You only need to look at trade in values of 1 year old GTI'S/GTD'S to see how they take a huge hit.
I'd keep the GTI for a couple of years then see how things are.That is what i'm doing with my GTD. :smiley:
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Yes I'll be sticking with the GTi , got offered £19800 for my gti against a £23k GTD would bump my payments up £100 a month so would more than cancel out any saving in ⛽️ fuel. Plus after test driving the diesel I wasn't overly taken with power delivery. I'll just have to drive the gti about more carefully and limt my fun time
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Tyres and possibly type of fuel used could affect mpg's too.
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I still think some of your figures aren't 100% correct, the GTi is at 2800 rpm at 80 for a start, also your never likely to maintain an AVG on a UK motorway unless it's 2am. And the OP has a mixture of roads on a commute? So the comparison drawn may not relate to the actual use.
I guess we will agree to differ, however not sure the cure to this is a change in car based on present info... (Not saying you were suggesting changing the car)
I stand corrected on the ratios, although I never noticed when I had a run out in a GTI on an extended test drive - I didn't realise the GTI had a 10% taller 6th gear than the R. Given that and the R's pulling about 7% more weight through a Haldex system, the fact that it is only 4mpg thirstier (albeit on higher octane fuel) in my experience goes to show that the R is pretty good on fuel all things considered (with its extra 36% power). There's not much of a penalty for running a Haldex when the R is only 4% thirstier than the Clubsport officially (wonder if the CS/CSS are running the same gearbox ratios as the R?).
I don't think anyone expects to average 80mph for the whole journey when they mention it, they aim to maintain that as a cruising speed on the motorway and all the incidental slowdowns across the journey (the roundabouts and sliproads either end and changing roads) bring that down a bit. My point was that maintaining 60mph is a hell of a lot more frugal than 80mph in a GTI/R, with less of a penalty on the significantly higher geared GTD for doing 80 rather than 60 (even though the difference is still significant).
Most modern turboed engines are at their most efficient maintaining around 2000-2200 revs. I see this with my R and my previous GTD - the difference between my R doing a constant 30mph/5th or 40mph/6th in heavy but flowing traffic (getting around 40mpg on a stretch like that) and the GTD doing the same speeds in a lower gear so as not to labour the engine (getting about 45mpg) is relatively small. At those speeds the R (and the GTI) are running optimally, the GTD isn't stretching its legs at that point. On a long journey with clear roads doing 60+mph for most of the journey, the GTD is going to have a huge mpg advantage. With that in mind, the OP's 34mpg GTI commute is highly likely to be 50-53mpg in a GTD without changing his driving style.
Financially though, for the OP, he'd lose so much to change so early. People worry far more about an extra £15/20 a week being spent at the pumps that a GTD to GTI/R costs to run than what could be an extra £50-80 a month that quietly slips out of their bank account by DD because they added a few pricey options.
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Yes I'll be sticking with the GTi , got offered £19800 for my gti against a £23k GTD would bump my payments up £100 a month so would more than cancel out any saving in ⛽️ fuel. Plus after test driving the diesel I wasn't overly taken with power delivery. I'll just have to drive the gti about more carefully and limt my fun time
You know it makes sense.Somtimes you have to just put your accountants head on with such things.
People will say 'it's only money blah,blah'.But it's not theirs is it?. :sad:
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Tyres and possibly type of fuel used could affect mom's too.
I check my tyres once a month.I know the TPMS is supposed to advise you of pressure losses.But i prefer to check it myself. :smiley:
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'Financially though, for the OP, he'd lose so much to change so early. People worry far more about an extra £15/20 a week being spent at the pumps that a GTD to GTI/R costs to run than what could be an extra £50-80 a month that quietly slips out of their bank account by DD because they added a few pricey options'.
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Totally agree with that. :smiley:
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It's frightening the amount of topics on this forum that obsess about a few measly mpg. The single biggest hit on your pocket is the depreciation/loan repayments. A few mpg when doing average ish miles is a penny in the ocean.
I still say the GTD should only be considered if doing intergalactic mileage. Some will disagree. Enjoy your GTI imo.
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It's frightening the amount of topics on this forum that obsess about a few measly mpg. The single biggest hit on your pocket is the depreciation/loan repayments. A few mpg when doing average ish miles is a penny in the ocean.
I still say the GTD should only be considered if doing intergalactic mileage. Some will disagree. Enjoy your GTI imo.
Depreciation,depreciation depreciation.They should do a show about it!. :shocked:
A penny in the ocean I like that phrase. :cool:
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It's frightening the amount of topics on this forum that obsess about a few measly mpg. The single biggest hit on your pocket is the depreciation/loan repayments. A few mpg when doing average ish miles is a penny in the ocean.
I still say the GTD should only be considered if doing intergalactic mileage. Some will disagree. Enjoy your GTI imo.
I agree with most of what you are saying - depreciation is by far the biggest hit on the pocket, which is why I went for the R and disregarded the modest extra fuelling costs over the GTI, I feel that it offers a lot more than the GTI for what amounts to a 4mpg difference to me and my driving style (albeit with dearer fuel). Personal circumstances changed that allowed me to buy my R outright and not have 1/3 of the monthly cost of ownership going on PCP interest, my R is the cheapest VW i've had on a monthly basis for many years as I was previously PCPing.
I would worry more about the mpg differences between the the GTD and the GTI than I would between the GTI and the R if you've got at least a 15 mile commute on your hands to get the GTD warm and efficient.
But, when the GTD is cheaper than the GTI (just), has better residuals (bringing down the monthly cost of depreciation) and costs less to run in fuel and tax, that monthly difference is significant even on average mileage. For some it might push the cost of a GTI just outside what they're willing to pay a month to run a car.
At the end of the day you've got to weigh up monthly savings vs fun factor. Will that GTI (or R) be worth the extra cost for the extra driving enjoyment it may or may not derive? That's a completely individual decision.
You've also got to remember that when the first of us got our hands on a MK7 GTD or GTI, fuel was 20% dearer than it is currently - which really opened up the GTD's savings. I'd have to think hard about buying and running an R right now if it was pushing £1.50 a litre to fuel it (currently paying £1.139 a litre for Tesco Momentum), back in October 13, I was paying out about £1.38 a litre for diesel, and premium unleaded would've been about £1.48 a litre.
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I was still tempted to go for another gtd until I drove the R and two gti's. Loved the R and got the go ahead to buy one but decided I didn't want the extra expense at the moment as it would have been more on the monthlies and also more on the fuel bill. The gti is costing less than I'm paying at the moment and I reckon the fuel bill will be about the same too. Gtd would have been the cheapest to both buy and run even on 9k miles a year but it would probably suffer the same as the tiguan I've currently got with warming up fully on a morning. Everyone has a reason behind what car they choose and everyones different.
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If i'd done 70mph it would've been around 65mpg, and doing 60 on the same stretch would've been pushing 70mpg. I think Sootchucker has proven that on some of his mpg challenges.
I will back that up - I regularly got 60 - 65mpg around the north section of the M25 - 35 mile commute. 65mpg was normally achieved dropping speed to 65mph and no hold-ups
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It's frightening the amount of topics on this forum that obsess about a few measly mpg. The single biggest hit on your pocket is the depreciation/loan repayments. A few mpg when doing average ish miles is a penny in the ocean.
I still say the GTD should only be considered if doing intergalactic mileage. Some will disagree. Enjoy your GTI imo.
I agree with most of what you are saying - depreciation is by far the biggest hit on the pocket, which is why I went for the R and disregarded the modest extra fuelling costs over the GTI, I feel that it offers a lot more than the GTI for what amounts to a 4mpg difference to me and my driving style (albeit with dearer fuel). Personal circumstances changed that allowed me to buy my R outright and not have 1/3 of the monthly cost of ownership going on PCP interest, my R is the cheapest VW i've had on a monthly basis for many years as I was previously PCPing.
I would worry more about the mpg differences between the the GTD and the GTI than I would between the GTI and the R if you've got at least a 15 mile commute on your hands to get the GTD warm and efficient.
But, when the GTD is cheaper than the GTI (just), has better residuals (bringing down the monthly cost of depreciation) and costs less to run in fuel and tax, that monthly difference is significant even on average mileage. For some it might push the cost of a GTI just outside what they're willing to pay a month to run a car.
At the end of the day you've got to weigh up monthly savings vs fun factor. Will that GTI (or R) be worth the extra cost for the extra driving enjoyment it may or may not derive? That's a completely individual decision.
You've also got to remember that when the first of us got our hands on a MK7 GTD or GTI, fuel was 20% dearer than it is currently - which really opened up the GTD's savings. I'd have to think hard about buying and running an R right now if it was pushing £1.50 a litre to fuel it (currently paying £1.139 a litre for Tesco Momentum), back in October 13, I was paying out about £1.38 a litre for diesel, and premium unleaded would've been about £1.48 a litre.
Think we very similar in driving patterns, styles and overall mileage and you pretty much replicated my thinking in all you stated in this thread
the last 2 checks of consumption for over 200 miles, were averages of 37.5 and 42 for my GTD and the last figure I know was bumped up by a relatively long journey.
Most of my shorter around town and into next town journeys definitely do not utilise the GTD strengths and given expect to not go beyond 7,000 miles doubt my fuel impact will be significant. Expect 30-32 MPG to be my average based on driving style is not going to change.
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I estimate my annual mileage will now be about 15k. I was swapping from a modified Ibiza PD130 that was running 190bhp/315ftlb, and was convinced the GTD would be the one for me. My long term average in the Ibiza was 47mpg, 2k miles into GTI ownership and I'm averaging about 9mpg less. I test drove the GTD and agree with the earlier comment about it being soulless!
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There's less soul in all the MK7s - it's the price of refinement and more linear power delivery in modern vehicles. Add in the move towards DSG, lots of traction/safety tech, busier roads and a lot of the driver/car interaction is gone. On decent tyres you have to be doing something stupid to have the car bite back. My 170TDI Scirocco was a lot more fun than my GTD, but less refined. It's only the proper shove in the back when I floor my R that really puts a smile on my face when driving.
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I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
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I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
Forget eco, anything it does is negligible. 15 mile each way commute and 50mph roads to only get 29mpg in a GTI - are they gridlocked? I have a 20 mile commute on mixed roads which are free flowing going to work and a bit busy coming home - I put my foot down when the opportunity arises and still get 33mpg to work and 31 coming home in a manual R. Is yours DSG (thirstier than manual)?
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I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
I do 25 mile commute average about 30 urban roads no duels or motorways did a cleethorpes round trip with a few big grin moments and returned 37.4.
I knew when I git the Gti it wasn't gonna be economical but I didn't buy it for that I got it for the grin factor :cool: :whistle:
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I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
Blimey, are your slippers soled in lead? :shocked: I rarely get less than 30mpg. My commute is only 5 miles and even in the current cold weather I get 30+ with just the occasional drop below. A steady run over 18 miles home on motorways has given 50 in the past and usually yields at least 40. As others have said, eco is rubbish, mine is always in Individual with all but the steering set to sport.
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I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
Forget eco, anything it does is negligible. 15 mile each way commute and 50mph roads to only get 29mpg in a GTI - are they gridlocked? I have a 20 mile commute on mixed roads which are free flowing going to work and a bit busy coming home - I put my foot down when the opportunity arises and still get 33mpg to work and 31 coming home in a manual R. Is yours DSG (thirstier than manual)?
I only drive in eco as I like how the gears go up quicker (or don't they and I'm just imagining it?). There is traffic to start with getting to the motorway then it's plain sailing all the way to work. Honesty my long term average has stayed static at 29MPG. I am only 5K miles in though...
I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
I do 25 mile commute average about 30 urban roads no duels or motorways did a cleethorpes round trip with a few big grin moments and returned 37.4.
I knew when I git the Gti it wasn't gonna be economical but I didn't buy it for that I got it for the grin factor :cool: :whistle:
Oh definitely, hence the 'I guess it's worth it' :grin:! To be fair I only averaged around 36MPG in my 1.4 TSI Beetle so it's not a massive drop for me just wondered how everybody else managed 35+ :wink:
I honestly can't get over a 29MPG long term average and that's driving around like a Grandad in eco! :sad:
Do a 30 mile round trip to work and back (involves 50 roads mostly) and the best I'll get is 31. I will admit I got close to 40 on a big trip to London but that seems an anomaly. I guess it's worth it :rolleyes:
Blimey, are your slippers soled in lead? :shocked: I rarely get less than 30mpg. My commute is only 5 miles and even in the current cold weather I get 30+ with just the occasional drop below. A steady run over 18 miles home on motorways has given 50 in the past and usually yields at least 40. As others have said, eco is rubbish, mine is always in Individual with all but the steering set to sport.
Don't think I even saw 50 in my Beetle :grin:! Maybe mine just needs a bit more miles on it and it'll open up :cool:.