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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Walts on 14 September 2016, 09:09
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Well after a bit of a change in circumstance I sold my Golf GTD MK7 last week within 24hrs of listing it.
Now at the moment I'm restricted to Mrs corsa so I can at least get around but I really need to put an order in for something soon.
Having loved the GTD I'm seriously thinking about another MK7. Now I do a few less miles I'm looking at a Golf GTI performance pack with the following spec:
5 door
White
DSG
Panoramic roof
Parking pack
Tech pack
The question is do I order now or do people think the deals are gonna get better??
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Not sure the same applies to your situation, but I was told there are two good days to buy any technology, tomorrow as it will be cheaper, or yesterday as you will have had the use of it for a day.
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With the confirmation of the Q1 2017 facelift this morning I'd say you have three options:
1) Wait, get a facelift model
2) Wait, look to get a pre-facelift from the forecourt last minute and save a fortune
3) Wait, see if nearer the time any incentives come for pre-facelift factory orders come along once the news is more public
Obviously option #2 means that you won't get a choice of spec, but you could get a steal!
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Whatever way you decide to go, probably one of the nicer dilemmas to have!
If it were me, I think I'd buy something very cheap to run around in (if needed) and see what comes about. So probably point 3 above followed by point 1 if the deals didn't persuade me.
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With the confirmation of the Q1 2017 facelift this morning I'd say you have two options:
1) Wait, get a facelift model
2) Wait, look to get a pre-facelift from the forecourt last minute and save a fortune
3) Wait, see if nearer the time any incentives come for pre-facelift factory orders come along once the news is more public
Obviously option #2 means that you won't get a choice of spec, but you could get a steal!
Sensing you think I should wait :smiley:
My only dilemma is with the facelift I think the dealer incentives will go, so could risk £2000 with the current finance offer.
The local dealer to me will match the carwow offer I've got and that's only £500 apart from drive the deal. The dealer is only 10 miles to travel which then save trains/ fuel and food so probably only gonna save a few hundred pound with DTD.
And they've said if a better finance package comes out in October they will arrange it for me to move onto that............
I know it's not a bad dilemma to have but as they go this ones doing my head in :undecided:
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Oh I forgot, option 4.... f*** it, order it now, get a new GTI and drive around going zoooooooooom about 3 months sooner :)
If it was me though, I'd be going for one of the others despite #4 screaming at me to drop the coin!
Although if I was looking to outright purchase (not PCP or PCH) then facelift all the way, but you won't know what that will be and what extra things it might include for some time though - I'd guess maybe digital clocks, LED lights, different DRL's, couple of different colours and maybe even 7 speed DSG might be on the menu though...
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I'm in the same situation. Looking to get a mk 7 gtd, I or R. I can't see the 7 speed dsg box going in the gtd or even the I. Isn't it only in the new S3 and nothing else?
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Assume all clubsport models will be pore facelift then ?
Given they haven't sold as quickly as thought, surely they will throw some incentives that way soon :wink:
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I'd add keyless if you haven't included it in the options - then youll have the same car as me - pano is used almost daily, it's a great option
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Isn't keyless standard?
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Would it be possible to stretch to a CS?
It's just that the PP could do with that little extra bit of punch, IMO.
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I'd add keyless if you haven't included it in the options - then youll have the same car as me - pano is used almost daily, it's a great option
Wanna sell yours....... Cheap though cos the face lift is nearly out :rolleyes:
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Keyless is now standard on the 5 door but not the 3 for some reason.
Think it gets a few other bits too, new nav which works out slightly cheaper to upgrade to the tech pack, heated seats and a few other little touches.
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The clubsport at the moment is too expensive given there's no finance incentive and little dealer discount.
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Although if I was looking to outright purchase (not PCP or PCH) then facelift all the way, but you won't know what that will be and what extra things it might include for some time though - I'd guess maybe digital clocks, LED lights, different DRL's, couple of different colours and maybe even 7 speed DSG might be on the menu though...
I'm expecting the car to launch next week at the Frankfurt motor show. Though not available to order before January in the UK.
We should see what new options may be available then. Though VW UK will pick and choose the final options for January.
Please correct me if I am wrong. I have never followed a car launch so closely before.
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I'm in the same situation. Looking to get a mk 7 gtd, I or R. I can't see the 7 speed dsg box going in the gtd or even the I. Isn't it only in the new S3 and nothing else?
The FL A3 190ps petrol with Stronic is also 7 speed. It should also be the new box for the power and torque.
I don't understand why it is not on the higher powered diesels A3s yet. Though I expect it will be on the higher powered petrol Golfs.
Could they have it on the GTI and not the GTD? Maybe you have a point - both or none?
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Do Audi charge more for 7 speed DSG on petrol models than the six speed on Diesels? Or is it a flat DSG charge? I'm too lazy to look! Plus I always get bogged down when looking at Audi specs with all their confusing packs and add on's.
As for the ClubSport, it was always marketed as a limited build (the most obvious hint that there would be a FL Golf due afterwards) meaning it was a bit of a run out model. I reckon VW UK will end up chucking any excess stock from the build run that haven't got firm orders into the dealer network, like they did for run out pre FL up!s with a date that any not sold by will be pre-registered. A similar thing happened with the mk5 Pirelli if I remember correctly.
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Thanks for the replies thus far........
Spoke to the dealer and explained my situation, really nice guy and no pressure from him at all to jump on a deal. Gonna have a long think about things and try a decide how big the risk is loosing the dealer incentive now, compared to what might come out in October.
Oh and how long I can live with a 1.2 corsa :sad:
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Walts, I'm in a similar situation.
I've been getting deals for an R over the last couple of months and generally I'm quite impatient but for some reason never pulled the trigger.
A few weeks ago the dealer hinted at a facelift so like you I decided to hang fire and see what they bring out.
It could backfire though as the financial deals might be poor or the new facelift might not come with Winter Pack, Keyless or Nav, so to get it to the same spec as the current model might cost a lot more. In fact I doubt they will come with that spec.
Then with being an early adopter, its guaranteed things will be added to it not long after its released. The first few Mk7's didn't have the ACC.
I'm probably too late to order an R now anyway so will just have to face the consequences :grin: :laugh:
Or hope I can get a deal on a run out model that has similar specs.
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Order now. If you wait for the facelift, it might be uglier (I think they took the MK5 and hit it with the ugly stick to create MK6). If there's more kit on the facelift, you'll be paying for it in higher list price (A3 facelift is significantly more expensive than prefacelift to pay for that extra equipment it gained.
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Walts, I'm in a similar situation.
I've been getting deals for an R over the last couple of months and generally I'm quite impatient but for some reason never pulled the trigger.
A few weeks ago the dealer hinted at a facelift so like you I decided to hang fire and see what they bring out.
It could backfire though as the financial deals might be poor or the new facelift might not come with Winter Pack, Keyless or Nav, so to get it to the same spec as the current model might cost a lot more. In fact I doubt they will come with that spec.
Then with being an early adopter, its guaranteed things will be added to it not long after its released. The first few Mk7's didn't have the ACC.
I'm probably too late to order an R now anyway so will just have to face the consequences :grin: :laugh:
Or hope I can get a deal on a run out model that has similar specs.
As dilemmas go I know it's not a bad one to have, buy my god my head is pounding so feel your pain.
I don't think you'd struggle to order an R would you now? Or is there a cut off for the order books?
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Order now. If you wait for the facelift, it might be uglier (I think they took the MK5 and hit it with the ugly stick to create MK6). If there's more kit on the facelift, you'll be paying for it in higher list price (A3 facelift is significantly more expensive than prefacelift to pay for that extra equipment it gained.
I started to think just the same this afternoon after passing a mk7 gti in red.
I really like the look of it, having had one I know what I'm getting and it does fit our needs right now and that's a bonus. The deals are good at the moment and I'd hope that all the teething problems with the mk7 are sorted, so at least I shouldn't have any major niggles.
That's said I would like a digital dash in my life should that be an option :whistle:
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There's always going to be another model around the corner. There'll be a facelift, then a Mk8, then eventually a Mk9 and so on. Same applies these days with phones, TVs, computers or anything technical, anything you buy is almost out of date as soon as you get hold of it. If you like the current model and the deals are good then I think you should just order it, life's too short.
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Order now. If you wait for the facelift, it might be uglier (I think they took the MK5 and hit it with the ugly stick to create MK6).
We should know what the facelift looks like in a few weeks. Will Mk7 order books close that soon?
Is the Mk7 that nice looking? It has never grown on me. I just think the front end is slightly out of proportion. The way the front lights poke into the side wings just does not look right to me. Though I do think the back of Mk7 looks much better than the back of the Mk6. But who buys a car because they like the look of the back!
I'm hoping the facelift will sort out the proportions of the front end.
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Order now. If you wait for the facelift, it might be uglier (I think they took the MK5 and hit it with the ugly stick to create MK6).
We should know what the facelift looks like in a few weeks. Will Mk7 order books close that soon?
Is the Mk7 that nice looking? It has never grown on me. I just think the front end is slightly out of proportion. The way the front lights poke into the side wings just does not look right to me. Though I do think the back of Mk7 looks much better than the back of the Mk6. But who buys a car because they like the look of the back!
I'm hoping the facelift will sort out the proportions of the front end.
That's part of my issue, we might see the new car in a few weeks but that's when the current finance offer ends ????
Would be nice to have a crystal ball but guess I'm just gonna have to hold out for now.
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If you do order now, make sure that finance offer with the £2k deposit contribution and % APR is locked down for your order.
I was all set to PCP mine as the R's GFV was through the roof when I placed my order (£18.5k after 3 years), but I was refused the terms when the GFV had dropped to about £15.5k after 3 years not long after placing my order. I ended up buying it outright (and there were no incentives on the R at the time).
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The last quarter of the year is a pretty quiet season for dealers so I'd expect the October offers to be better than the peak season summer offers. Particularly if they're binning the production after Xmas.
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The last quarter of the year is a pretty quiet season for dealers so I'd expect the October offers to be better than the peak season summer offers. Particularly if they're binning the production after Xmas.
... my thinking also. Especially as there is a facelift - there could be some bargains sitting on dealers forecourts. My local dealer has a GTI sitting in his showroom. It would not be my choice of colour or spec. If the run-out deals don't get a buyer - then it will be pre-registered or an ex-demonstrator with another few thousand pounds off. I may be tempted if it was the right price.
Though, if I prefer the style of the facelift then I would probably get it.
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The last quarter of the year is a pretty quiet season for dealers so I'd expect the October offers to be better than the peak season summer offers. Particularly if they're binning the production after Xmas.
... my thinking also. Especially as there is a facelift - there could be some bargains sitting on dealers forecourts. My local dealer has a GTI sitting in his showroom. It would not be my choice of colour or spec. If the run-out deals don't get a buyer - then it will be pre-registered or an ex-demonstrator with another few thousand pounds off. I may be tempted if it was the right price.
Though, if I prefer the style of the facelift then I would probably get it.
I very much doubt a pre-registered or ex-demo performance Golf will be found cheaper than a new one with healthy discount and PCP contributions currently on offer. Never seen a £25-30k performance Golf with 6k off because it was pre-registered, unless that money is against the RRP of a stack of optional equipment that you may not have specced yourself. Also, technically a "used" car, you'll get worse APR % than that available on a new one.
The nearly new used VW forecourt is rarely competitive against a new car with maximum discount obtained - that is why so many of us here buy new.
If VW sales are pretty buoyant right now (I think they are, they don't build to excess/stock like Vauxhall and Ford regularly do), I don't think you're going to better the £2k finance contribution available right now.
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Order now. If you wait for the facelift, it might be uglier (I think they took the MK5 and hit it with the ugly stick to create MK6).
We should know what the facelift looks like in a few weeks. Will Mk7 order books close that soon?
Is the Mk7 that nice looking? It has never grown on me. I just think the front end is slightly out of proportion. The way the front lights poke into the side wings just does not look right to me. Though I do think the back of Mk7 looks much better than the back of the Mk6. But who buys a car because they like the look of the back!
I'm hoping the facelift will sort out the proportions of the front end.
Never liked the oversized front and rear lights of the MK6, the less aggressive looking front end and all those curved creases they put in to replace the sharper lines of the MK5 - it was like VW gave the Golf a Toyota Auris makeover. The 20% price increase over the MK5 for almost no additional kit also helped me choose a Scirocco over a MK6. The MK6 is my least favourite Golf after the MK3.
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Never liked the oversized front and rear lights of the MK6, the less aggressive looking front end and all those curved creases they put in to replace the sharper lines of the MK5...
... eh? I had a Mk5 and have no idea what you are talking about. It was a lot softer and more curvey. It looked like a big old Vauxhall Corsa. Glad they went back to a more angular German looking car.
We both agree about the rear of the Mk6. However, the Mk7 headlights are just out of proportion to my eyes...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N31dN1hlFVE/maxresdefault.jpg)
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I don't get that either? The Mk5 was anything but angular. It was all round, soft curves everywhere and a bit fat arsed tbh with that half painted rear bumper. The Mk6 was clearly more "angular", they put sharp creases on the panels where there were none before and carried that into the MK7.
I much preferred the front end of the MK5 though. In fact I think the MK5 GTI front end is the most distinctive of all the generations.
The rear lights on the early MK6's were terrible. Straight off a Toureag! But the LED versions in the later cars were a huge improvement.
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I had both a mk6 and mk5. I preferred the styling of the mk6 and my least favourite aspect of the design of both models was the rear of the mk5; the rear bumper with the large black plastic lower half looked unfinished IOM.
My choice of colour for my mk5 was limited to 1 colour; deep black pearl, specifically to help 'hide' the lower half of the rear bumper. I wasn't that keen on the rear lights of the mk5 either. The LED rears on the mk6 were great though.
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If buying now I'd go for a club sport rather than a standard gti. Yes it means you pay a bit more and don't get the deposit contribution but I suspect that it will hold its value much better than the other performance variants. 5 year old edition 35 cars still go for between 13-16k in the trade and more privately. Pretty good for a car that cost £27k brand new.
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If buying now I'd go for a club sport rather than a standard gti. Yes it means you pay a bit more and don't get the deposit contribution but I suspect that it will hold its value much better than the other performance variants. 5 year old edition 35 cars still go for between 13-16k in the trade and more privately. Pretty good for a car that cost £27k brand new.
I did consider that as an option but with drive the deal etc offering 6k off list at the moment inc the dealer contribution I'm not sure the clubsport would retain that much more.
Visited hull today and if time allowed was gonna go see the new m140i as an alternative, some really good dealer incentives on those at the moment.