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General => Detailing => Topic started by: Mike J on 11 September 2016, 10:36
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I will be collecting my new Mk7 in a months time and I declined the dealers £300 Auto Gleam finish when I placed the order.
My question is;
a) should I go for the dealers Autogleam
b) get it done privately immediatly after Ive collected the car. Hampshire based so recommendations please.
c) use another product -which is best?
d) do it myself
e) any other option
The car will be kept on my drive, annual mileage 4-5k, only washed a few times a year as I hate cleaning cars so I would prefer a finish that is robust AND final, say for a couple of years life at least.
I will be keeping the car for ten years.
Thanks in advance.
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I will be collecting my new Mk7 in a months time and I declined the dealers £300 Auto Gleam finish when I placed the order.
My question is;
a) should I go for the dealers Autogleam
b) get it done privately immediatly after Ive collected the car. Hampshire based so recommendations please.
c) use another product -which is best?
d) do it myself
e) any other option
The car will be kept on my drive, annual mileage 4-5k, only washed a few times a year as I hate cleaning cars so I would prefer a finish that is robust AND final, say for a couple of years life at least.
I will be keeping the car for ten years.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, here's my take on your questions:
a) No. Avoid dealer protections at all costs. They will very likely swirl your paintwork applying it. They will charge you through the nose for it. There's many many better products out there for a fraction of the cost.
b) If you choose to get protection applied by a Pro dealer then they will offer a range of protection packages as part of a new car detail so there will be something to suit your budget. These will make future maintenance of the car easier which for someone who hates cleaning their car is a massive plus. I do my own details but am on other forums and Envy Detailing in Fareham is often recommended. Additionally if you have it done as part of a new car detail then your car will be fully cleaned and decontaminated, machine polished and then protected so will be better than when you first pick it up. Prices would be anywhere from £250 upwards to £1k depending on exactly what you opt for.
c) Even if you pick another product I still wouldn't let the dealer anywhere near it. Best to do this as part of pro detail or yourself.
d) Nothing to stop you doing it yourself. Lots of products to choose from that are designed for non pro amateur application, though they still require a modicum of knowledge of preparation and car cleaning/detailing processes and depending on what product you choose some experience is preferable. However, if you hate cleaning your car then suggests that you might not enjoy doing this yourself. Preparation of the car is key so if you are not into this then perhaps not the right option for you.
e) If you have a mate whose into detailing and capable of doing it for you then that might be an option.
If considering a Professional detail, take a look on Detailing World and do a search for recommended detailers in your area http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/index.php
Hope this helps. :smiley:
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Do it yourself.
Follow Booth11's ( detailing moderator extraordinaire) excellent tips and you can't go far wrong.
It won't be cheap and it won't be easy, but it will be worth it :wink:
Whatever you choose to do, DON'T go the dealer Autogleam route :smiley:
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All the above plus don't let the dealer wash it for collection either. Get it dirty, warts and all, then straight to your preferred detailer or your dealer may let your detailer prepare it prior to collection, even better :smiley:
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All the above plus don't let the dealer wash it for collection either. Get it dirty, warts and all, then straight to your preferred detailer or your dealer may let your detailer prepare it prior to collection, even better :smiley:
If the OP decides on a pro detail, not the end of the world if the dealer does prep it as they detailer will sort any swirls out.
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All the above plus don't let the dealer wash it for collection either. Get it dirty, warts and all, then straight to your preferred detailer or your dealer may let your detailer prepare it prior to collection, even better :smiley:
If the OP decides on a pro detail, not the end of the world if the dealer does prep it as they detailer will sort any swirls out.
True, but OP will be paying additional for the time to rectify those swirls and the nature of swirl removal means the car will have lost some clear coat unnecessarily!
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All the above plus don't let the dealer wash it for collection either. Get it dirty, warts and all, then straight to your preferred detailer or your dealer may let your detailer prepare it prior to collection, even better :smiley:
If the OP decides on a pro detail, not the end of the world if the dealer does prep it as they detailer will sort any swirls out.
True, but OP will be paying additional for the time to rectify those swirls and the nature of swirl removal means the car will have lost some clear coat unnecessarily!
Fair point. Definitely preferable to get the pro detailer to be the first to attend to the car. Just meant that if by any chance it did get prepped by the dealer it is easily rectifiable and if going to a detailer anyway, it would be most likely be having a single stage polish anyway as part of new car detail - the extra loss of clearcoat if there is correction required would be negligible.
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I hear things about new paint/clear coat, needing a fair amount of time to fully harden.
Would it be sensible for the OP to wait a month before letting a pro detailer get his hands on it?
It couldn't do any harm I wouldn't think.
Just a thought and probably wrong as usual :rolleyes:
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Can I thank everyone who provided advice to my thread.
I emailed one company I found online and have not received a reply yet so maybe tomorrow.
I've also emailed the Envy company recommended above.
Another couple of questions;
1) The car will have black leather interior and the VW dealer has told me the Autogleam pre-delivery would include an interior anti-stain treatment :undecided: so should I include the seats etc in the initial detailing or will it be good to go from the factory?
2) Is it REALLY possible to produce a finish on a car bonnet that will cause a microfibre cloth to slide off?
Thanks guys, you have a great forum here.
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Can I thank everyone who provided advice to my thread.
I emailed one company I found online and have not received a reply yet so maybe tomorrow.
I've also emailed the Envy company recommended above.
Another couple of questions;
1) The car will have black leather interior and the VW dealer has told me the Autogleam pre-delivery would include an interior anti-stain treatment :undecided: so should I include the seats etc in the initial detailing or will it be good to go from the factory?
2) Is it REALLY possible to produce a finish on a car bonnet that will cause a microfibre cloth to slide off?
Thanks guys, you have a great forum here.
1) Forget the dealer pre-delivery treatment, get the detailer to do a leather protectant treatment whilst doing the exterior. Or buy a bottle of this http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/interior/leather-care/gtechniq-l1-ab-anti-bacterial-leather-guard/prod_1093.html and apply it to all your interior leather once/twice a year and it will protect from all manner of ills. Easy to apply. But tbh it's a desirable thing but not essential - leather if fine from factory.
2) Yes it REALLY is possible.
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Hey Booth
Many thanks for all your advice and links.
The detailer I emailed a way back still hasn't replied :angry: perhaps he is too interested cleaning the Top Gear cars he talks about on his website?
However
Tim Bomford at Envy Detailing in Gosport has been the exact opposite. :smiley:
Quick reponses to my communications, clear answers to all my questions and a very warm welcome when I visited yesterday.
He was finishing off a silver R for a client which provided me with the perfect opportunity to examine his work firsthand and what I could expect with my car.
It seems that after the PDI the VW dealer delivered the R to Tim on trade plates with all its transport wrapping still in place (as you advised).
Following the 2 days of detailing the handover will be completed by the VW dealers at Tim's place, which will be the first time the new owner will actually see the car. (And he certainly wont be disappointed)!!
Clearly such a thoroughly professional and seamless process isn't something that has happened overnight, but with the clients requirements being paramount the VW dealers and Envy Detailing have obviously developed a working relationship where everyone happy.
Surely the way forward for anyone wanting their car detailed from new.
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You have yours booked in there now too? Be sure to post plenty of pictures :)
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Hey Booth
Many thanks for all your advice and links.
The detailer I emailed a way back still hasn't replied :angry: perhaps he is too interested cleaning the Top Gear cars he talks about on his website?
However
Tim Bomford at Envy Detailing in Gosport has been the exact opposite. :smiley:
Quick reponses to my communications, clear answers to all my questions and a very warm welcome when I visited yesterday.
He was finishing off a silver R for a client which provided me with the perfect opportunity to examine his work firsthand and what I could expect with my car.
It seems that after the PDI the VW dealer delivered the R to Tim on trade plates with all its transport wrapping still in place (as you advised).
Following the 2 days of detailing the handover will be completed by the VW dealers at Tim's place, which will be the first time the new owner will actually see the car. (And he certainly wont be disappointed)!!
Clearly such a thoroughly professional and seamless process isn't something that has happened overnight, but with the clients requirements being paramount the VW dealers and Envy Detailing have obviously developed a working relationship where everyone happy.
Surely the way forward for anyone wanting their car detailed from new.
👍
As jv says, assume you've decided to do the same? Sounds like a very good outfit and a great relationship between dealers and detailer. Great to be able to visit beforehand and see the setup and examples of their work in the flesh. You must be really looking forward to getting yours done there now, and we look forward very much to seeing the results. :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Yes all sorted.
Arranged for the dealer to deliver it after the PDI on trade plates and take me to collect it after completion.
AND their workshop to stick the plates on and NOT drill holes for those horrible plastic nuts and bolts.
First time my dealer has ever used Envy Detailing so its going to be a learning curve for us both.