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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: wigit on 04 August 2016, 22:05
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Well i have had the R wagon for five weeks now and used it for daily duties, driven the wife's 5 door a fair bit and had my three door put back to standard so 3 are as VW intended
So if i could only have one which do you think it would be and which do i find the most fun to drive
All of them are dsg, the 3 and 5 door have DCC
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Well the estate is bloody ugly from behind so can rule that one out immediately
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I think this is a trick question so the wagon gets my vote! :smug:
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The 3 door is back to stock as it makes way for the M2
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There's surely no discernible difference in the drive between the 3 and 5 door.
So, I'd say the 5 door... Assuming you don't need the extra boot space.
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The estate as it's uber discreet and has the ability to swallow quite a bit into its rump.
But mostly because the rear end probably makes it handle like a demon.
I once had a mk2 Polo Saloon of 1985 vintage as a runabout bought because it was cheap, low mileage and best of all it attracted absolutely no attention unlike the Golf VR6 I was running at the time.
The side benefit was that huge boot which could swallow a set of four alloy wheels without needing to fold the seats down. In fact the seats didn't fold down as it had a proper metal bulkhead which made the chassis very strong and didn't flex.
The real benefit of the huge boot though wasn't its pushchair carrying abilities, it was the fact it made the car handle really well.
So using this reason I'm going for the R estate.
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I would have the estate for it's steathiness, but would have to get rid of 2 tail pipes.
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Aside from the obvious practicality to a need for more space and the additional performance that may surprise any unsuspecting really do struggle to appreciate the R estate.
Think my view is a little tainted as the reason selected the R Hatchback was because the Audi A3 Sportback looks too much like an estate! so this is maybe biased to taste but think the R estate looks awkward with the extension bolted on.
Think what also makes it look awkward is the 4 tailpipes which work for the hatchback but seem out of place on the estate, sort of contraction to its practicality than a leaning to its sportiness.
Aside from those who genuinely need the additional space personally you would think the R estate was more aimed at the company demographic? Someone who is on the road most of the time carrying their products, tools, displays around? Most company drivers who do high mileage would steer clear of the R estate simply based on economy, so you have excluded the majority right away with only the exceptions?
So be interesting to know the sales of the R estate both to public and to company drivers?
One last thing did surprise me is that only two of the exhausts function, the other two are purely for aesthetics, and think the knowledge of that would niggle me, and more support to just going for twin pipes which would for me make the estate look more joined and complete, rather than extended with the R back end bolted on. Think someone said in this thread, more stealth would make the R more.
Also, think it lacks the LED clusters?
So my not getting the R estate is based purely on aesthetics and for some economy, the one thing have no doubt on, is that once in the cabin and driving, the experience is every bit as good as an R can be, and sure its very satisfying in catching some unsuspecting out, who thinks its "just an estate" :cool:
Just personal preference from someone where the hatchback gives me all space need 99% of time and has an already aversion to estate styling.
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You have to be barking mad to have an R as a company car, estate or not.
The BIK price would absolutely murder you.
You could easily run a 5 series TDI estate for the same money, possibly even less.
I honestly can't think who'd want an R estate at all.
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I honestly can't think who'd want an R estate at all.
The same could have been said about cars of old like the Audi RS2, B5 RS4, Mercedes C43 Estate, BMW 335i Touring etc... Even the Passat W8 and R36.
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As I don't know you wigit it's impossible to say. From a guess though I'd say the 5 door is out as if you want practicality the estate is better. For me it would have to be the 3 door as it looks the best and has the best features but I do quite like an estate and a fast one has to be fun. So I'd say you prefer the estate as it's a bit left field and must be rare and if you really have to go to Ikea you'd want to get it over with as quick as possible!
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I would have the estate for it's steathiness, but would have to get rid of 2 tail pipes.
Followed an estate yesterday, 2 pipes black, 2 pipes nice and shiny, it looked a bit silly. :grin:
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Yep, 2 of the exhaust pipes on the estate are fakes. That would annoy me! And no rear LED's...
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Let's face it, 3 of them are un-necessary. There is only 1 pipe exiting the turbo, so there is no practical reason for any more than that poking out of the back.
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Well i have had the R wagon for five weeks now and used it for daily duties, driven the wife's 5 door a fair bit and had my three door put back to standard so 3 are as VW intended
So if i could only have one which do you think it would be and which do i find the most fun to drive
All of them are dsg, the 3 and 5 door have DCC
I suspect you are going to say the Estate, for the better exhaust sound, and maybe even the extra body roll may make it more of an 'eventful' drive? I'm sure it's quite a wagon, but I still think proportionally it looks very odd (wrong) from the side and really not a pretty sight from the rear, even more so having seen a couple in the flesh now. It's ugly looking as estates go, but it's not all about looks. :smiley:
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You have to be barking mad to have an R as a company car, estate or not.
The BIK price would absolutely murder you.
You could easily run a 5 series TDI estate for the same money, possibly even less.
I honestly can't think who'd want an R estate at all.
Why on earth would you want a 5 series oil burner over an R? I know which I'd rather have.
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You have to be barking mad to have an R as a company car, estate or not.
The BIK price would absolutely murder you.
You could easily run a 5 series TDI estate for the same money, possibly even less.
I honestly can't think who'd want an R estate at all.
Why on earth would you want a 5 series oil burner over an R? I know which I'd rather have.
A 535d X-drive will be as quick, but not as nimble - lots of bodyroll, it's a fast motorway cruiser, not something for flinging around country roads. It will be cheaper as a company car though.
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You have to be barking mad to have an R as a company car, estate or not.
The BIK price would absolutely murder you.
You could easily run a 5 series TDI estate for the same money, possibly even less.
I honestly can't think who'd want an R estate at all.
Why on earth would you want a 5 series oil burner over an R? I know which I'd rather have.
A 535d X-drive will be as quick, but not as nimble - lots of bodyroll, it's a fast motorway cruiser, not something for flinging around country roads. It will be cheaper as a company car though.
A motorway tailgater's dream.... Very dull. The R has rarity value and its understated looks make it something of a Q car.
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Well i have had the R wagon for five weeks now and used it for daily duties, driven the wife's 5 door a fair bit and had my three door put back to standard so 3 are as VW intended
So if i could only have one which do you think it would be and which do i find the most fun to drive
All of them are dsg, the 3 and 5 door have DCC
3dr - suspect the chassis is stiffer and possibly lighter.
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Just spotted this this thread after finally getting an Internet connection on my phone in sunny Tenerife.
There is no getting away from the fact that the R estate is a truly hideous looking car and no amount of argument will ever change that fact.
What the he'll were VW thinking when they launched it?
Audi have proved over and over again that estates can be very cool so there really is no excuse for the R wagons stodgy appearance.
Better add 'imo' so as not to offend anybody.
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Just spotted this this thread after finally getting an Internet connection on my phone in sunny Tenerife.
There is no getting away from the fact that the R estate is a truly hideous looking car and no amount of argument will ever change that fact.
What the he'll were VW thinking when they launched it?
Audi have proved over and over again that estates can be very cool so there really is no excuse for the R wagons stodgy appearance.
Better add 'imo' so as not to offend anybody.
Lol.
The joys of holiday wifi eh! If it's crap I usually end up going for a GigSky data plan.
Agree, there are much better streamlined looking estates than the R, and whist I can understand the appeal of a hot estate, it's still an abomination to me. :laugh:
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I've said it before but the odd looks are just down to the Golf's proportions. It's a car designed as a small hatch so in estate form, it just looks odd. Too long relative to the car's width, too much overhang over the rear wheels.
Similar problem with the Leon, A3, any car in that size bracket imo.
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Just spotted this this thread after finally getting an Internet connection on my phone in sunny Tenerife.
There is no getting away from the fact that the R estate is a truly hideous looking car and no amount of argument will ever change that fact.
What the he'll were VW thinking when they launched it?
Audi have proved over and over again that estates can be very cool so there really is no excuse for the R wagons stodgy appearance.
Better add 'imo' so as not to offend anybody.
Lol.
The joys of holiday wifi eh! If it's crap I usually end up going for a GigSky data plan.
Agree, there are much better streamlined looking estates than the R, and whist I can understand the appeal of a hot estate, it's still an abomination to me. :laugh:
I don't think it's quite that bad but admit it's not a looker. I suspect VW assumed no matter what they did it wasn't going to be a sales sensation so did it as cheaply as they could. I saw one in red recently (so far the only one I've seen) and the colour helped lift it's looks a bit but for me it just looks like a dull estate. As above, Audi really know what they're doing in the estates market. I rather like an RS4 B7, they look great!
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I've said it before but the odd looks are just down to the Golf's proportions. It's a car designed as a small hatch so in estate form, it just looks odd. Too long relative to the car's width, too much overhang over the rear wheels.
Similar problem with the Leon, A3, any car in that size bracket imo.
Agree with you Joe. You take a hatch, stretch it and it's never going to look pretty. Passat Estate looks much better.
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Just spotted this this thread after finally getting an Internet connection on my phone in sunny Tenerife.
There is no getting away from the fact that the R estate is a truly hideous looking car and no amount of argument will ever change that fact.
What the he'll were VW thinking when they launched it?
Audi have proved over and over again that estates can be very cool so there really is no excuse for the R wagons stodgy appearance.
Better add 'imo' so as not to offend anybody.
Lol.
The joys of holiday wifi eh! If it's crap I usually end up going for a GigSky data plan.
Agree, there are much better streamlined looking estates than the R, and whist I can understand the appeal of a hot estate, it's still an abomination to me. :laugh:
I don't think it's quite that bad but admit it's not a looker. I suspect VW assumed no matter what they did it wasn't going to be a sales sensation so did it as cheaply as they could. I saw one in red recently (so far the only one I've seen) and the colour helped lift it's looks a bit but for me it just looks like a dull estate. As above, Audi really know what they're doing in the estates market. I rather like an RS4 B7, they look great!
Yeah RS4 B7 is quite a looker, much better proportioned and without that massive overhang.
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It must be just me then because I think it looks alright. If I needed the space I'd much rather have one of these than a bloated SUV.