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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: phope on 10 June 2016, 12:47
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Now released: http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Europe&NewLocaleID=en_GB&NewDomainName=Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light
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On with this update now! Seems to be taking much longer than before. Maybe the files for MIB 2 are larger than for MIB 1? I'm hoping the muddled "in town" directions are a bit clearer.
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Is it worth doing?
The sat nav is sh!te anyway :sad:
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Well, I just completed the update process, which probably took around 3.5 hours, in all! Left with a bit of a mystery, in that the new data is 12.7GB, versus 14.7GB for the old data. Not sure why that should be - usual experience is that data increases at updates, but hey.
Checked the updated SD card in the car and it accepted it without any delay and displayed the usual map screen correctly. Tried putting in a route from my destinations, which are all there, and everything seemed to work as it should. Not tried driving a route yet, but can't see any reason for concern.
So, as to whether it's worth investing 3.5 hours of your life in this update, I can't yet help, but the last update I did, which was November last year on an MIB 1, replaced one verbal error with another, on the same road! I was hoping that this update would get rid of the bit where she inserts an unnecessary "street" into directions, as in "turn right into "street" Wisteria Avenue", but, as said, yet to drive a route.
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Well, I just completed the update process, which probably took around 3.5 hours, in all! Left with a bit of a mystery, in that the new data is 12.7GB, versus 14.7GB for the old data. Not sure why that should be - usual experience is that data increases at updates, but hey.
Checked the updated SD card in the car and it accepted it without any delay and displayed the usual map screen correctly. Tried putting in a route from my destinations, which are all there, and everything seemed to work as it should. Not tried driving a route yet, but can't see any reason for concern.
So, as to whether it's worth investing 3.5 hours of your life in this update, I can't yet help, but the last update I did, which was November last year on an MIB 1, replaced one verbal error with another, on the same road! I was hoping that this update would get rid of the bit where she inserts an unnecessary "street" into directions, as in "turn right into "street" Wisteria Avenue", but, as said, yet to drive a route.
How fast or slow is your internet? Or does that not determine the 3.5 hour download time!
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How fast or slow is your internet? Or does that not determine the 3.5 hour download time!
Superfast BB (50 thingys) and still took an hour! The file transfers were across a usb hard drive and a usb card reader/writer, so would probably be faster more directly.
However, another problem has been pointed out in that, following the instructions provided, which haven't been changed, the extracting process only deals with the first of two downloads - hence giving only 12.7GB of data, versus 14.7GB pre update data. Doesn't seem to be a way to extract all files without filling the card. A UK guy on the other forum has hit the same problem and has emailed the nav software outfit for instruction, so we will see!
Wasted an afternoon for nothing! Currently returning backup files to SD card. Hope it works when I've done! Proper cockup here, I reckon. :drool:
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Relieved that restoring the old data to my SD card has worked, but annoyed that, what should be a straightforward process, has not been properly trialed, or given proper instructions. VW should care! :angry:
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Took me just under 1 hour on a BT 70 odd Mb broadband line for the full 23gb zip file for the Nav Pro
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Relieved that restoring the old data to my SD card has worked, but annoyed that, what should be a straightforward process, has not been properly trialed, or given proper instructions. VW should care! :angry:
The map updates are nothing to do with VW its outside company that do it. Do agree though that the new 2 part download is crap.
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Is it worth doing?
The sat nav is sh!te anyway :sad:
Never had problems with it and better than the BMW ones I have had IMO.
Only took mine 30mins to download for the Discovery non pro.
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Relieved that restoring the old data to my SD card has worked, but annoyed that, what should be a straightforward process, has not been properly trialed, or given proper instructions. VW should care! :angry:
The map updates are nothing to do with VW its outside company that do it. Do agree though that the new 2 part download is crap.
......but VW will be paying "Here" for maintaining the map systems for the Satnavs in their cars. This reflects on them. Not value for their money, or ours! That's why I say VW should care.
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I agree they should but they won't.
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Tried and failed. No way I can get a 16.8Gb file to fit a 16Gb SD card. Maybe I'm missing something or are we going to be issued 32Gb cards at next service?
I did wonder if the EU1 or EU2 files were for EU stay / BREXIT? :smiley:
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You must have done it wrong as it's only 14.8gb one unzipped. You need both parts but I found it easier to download the 18 individual parts and they just unzip part 1.
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You must have done it wrong as it's only 14.8gb one unzipped. You need both parts but I found it easier to download the 18 individual parts and they just unzip part 1.
I downloaded the two parts and, following the current instructions, expected the extraction of files from download 1 to continue through download 2. It didn't, but the resultant card, with 12.7GB of data, vs 14.7GB before the update, worked in the car. After concern was expressed, on the other forum, I tried all ways I could think of to extract download 2, but always hit a full card, as I might have expected, had I thought about the bit about 16.8GB on the download page!
Glutton for punishment, and curious too, I will try doing the 18 part method today! :sick:
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I've put the full 18 parts into a folder and then unzipped part 1. It looks like its done all the parts.
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I've put the full 18 parts into a folder and then unzipped part 1. It looks like its done all the parts.
Don't think so.
I have done that and ended up with the same 12.7GB of data on the card as when I tried extracting from the two downloads. If you look at the 18 downloads, they are a group of 13, with one root name, and another group of 5, with another root name. Seems like extracting from the 18 gives the same result on the SD card as extracting from the two.
What GolfPilot, on the other forum, has found is that the countries included in the first download are duplicated in the second, except for Russia and Turkey, which are only incuded in the second, so, if you only extract the files from the first download, you are covered for everywhere, except Russia and Turkey.
I have put my updated SD card, with data for everywhere except Russia and Turkey, back in my car and it seems to work as it should. When I tried to enter new destinations in Russia or Turkey I was not given the option after selecting the first letters of "R" or "T", so the theory above is supported.
I will be leaving the card in, as it is, until either it malfunctions, or a better solution to extracting the downloads is discovered. It remains to be seen whether the update has any worthwhile features. Here's hoping! :wink:
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To be honest if it's just Russia and turkey missing then who cares :wink: What would have been good though is if the site actually explained this. I've downloaded the nav pro updates before when I had the gtd and as it was just one file didn't have a problem. I'll have a bash with the one I've got from the 18 part one.
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Looks like it should say that download 1 is Western Europe and download 2 is Eastern Europe, which would explain why some countries are in both downloads. Guess that split was done because of the card capacity, but why it isn't mentioned anywhere is a mystery.
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Just tried updating mine in the Tiguan and doesn't work. Why have they changed something that was ready before!!
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I've downloaded the map but I can't get it to unzip - I'm using a macbook - anyone got any helpful suggestions (other than buy an windows machine!)
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Can you run virtual PC on a Mac?
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You can use "The Unarchiver" :smiley:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/the-unarchiver/id425424353?mt=12
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How do you install these updates? Do they need putting on a USB or SD card and then inserting in to the glove box unit?
I only have a 14gb USB stick and some 8gb SD cards but the Discoverer Pro updates need 23gb. Is there an alternative way of installing them? Do VW dealerships offer any help? It's a pity you can't download straight to the car as when I'm parked outside my house I can connect the car to my wifi.
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You need a 32gb SD card, only a few ££ from Amazon or 7dayshop, dealers are not very helpful with updates and will charge a lot of money even if they are prepared to help.
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I've downloaded the updates for Discover Pro and I've transferred 50% to the SD card (estimated 30 minutes to transfer the other half).
Anyone know how long it'll take from the SD card to the Discoverer Pro itself? It says on the download page it could take up to 4 hours! I bought a cheap SD card so it's probably going to be pretty slow to transfer.
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Last time I updated my Nav Pro it took a good couple of hours to transfer form the SD card to the Nav unit. I think you can update as you drive. Not sure if this is correct, but I am sure my manual recommended I should leave the key in the ignition and engine turned on while updating? Cannot remember as it was a good while ago when I did it. All I can remember was I managed to wash the car as I updated and it continued for almost an hour after. :smiley:
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Thanks - I get really paranoid about battery drain so I'll use it as an excuse to go for a nice long drive and just update it while I'm on the road :smiley:
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I updated mine on my drive to work (15 minutes) it then started off where it had stopped when I finished my work 8 hours later.
So don't worry about turning the ignition off half way through.
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It'll transfer quicker if you have a class 10sd card. If you've bought a cheap card it may take longer to do. By cheap i mean slow not in price 😉
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Finally managed to get the update installed. Took absolutely ages all together after having to download the updates twice and needing three attempts to get the car to recognise the software due to some issue with the way files are download on Apple computers. Then despite 100% of the data being copied I got an error message and had to start the update in the car again. Thankfully it worked the second time.
I wasn't even going to bother with the update, it was only because I was in Scotland the other week on a relatively new road and the system thought I was driving through a field! Think I can live with that in future after all this hassle. VW really need to look at how they issue these updates though as it seems such a cumbersome way of doing it.
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I've never had any problems and it's reasonably easy to do. Once you've done it once it's a lot easier the next time.
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For the record, I also had trouble getting my nav pro system to recognise the files. I had to download them twice as it so happens one of the files was corrupt the first time it downloaded it. The update process is a little clunky, but light years ahead of some other rival companies. On my Honda Type-R only 3 years ago I would have had to buy a DVD to put in my Sat Nav drive. At least the updates for Nav Pro etc, are free and available online. :smiley:
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To be fair I've nothing to compare it to as I've never owned a car with built in satnav before. It doesn't seem logical to have to download 20gb of data (which took 3 hours on 50mb speed) when the updates are probably a fraction of that.