GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 11:10

Title: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 11:10
Just off the phone with my dealer, he can offer me the following new factory order for £1k and my car, monthlies will go up £10, would I be mad to change or does it sound ok?
3 Door
DSG
Tornado Red
19 Prets
Winter Pack
High Beam Assist
Rear View Camera
Apple Car Play
Gloss Black Mirrors
3 Year service Pack

I will gain 19 Prets, high Beam, Camera and Apple car play over my current car, but will obviously lose Keyless as no longer available.
Decisions, Decisions :laugh:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: iandjm on 07 May 2016, 11:21
Sounds very similar to offer to had to replace my GTI with the same car. The deposit and loyalty contributions make things very interesting.  I ended up loosing the plot and ordered an R 😉
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: JoeGTI on 07 May 2016, 12:08
App Connect / CarPlay can be retro-activated on your current car. Assuming it's MIB 2?
You already have prets don't you?

I'd hate to lose keyless personally...
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Booth11 on 07 May 2016, 12:35
You've already got a set of Prets though?  Seems a bit mad to me but ETTO!
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: kalimon on 07 May 2016, 12:38
Not quite sure why you are asking for opinions as you already know that you're going to do it :laugh:
You could sell your Prets very easily I'm sure.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 13:35
I had 3 Sets of Prets to be exact, all of which are now Sold lol
The way I'm looking at it is if I was to pay £1k for a set of Prets if get a new car aswell in the deal ha ha ha
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Booth11 on 07 May 2016, 14:01
I had 3 Sets of Prets to be exact, all of which are now Sold lol
The way I'm looking at it is if I was to pay £1k for a set of Prets if get a new car aswell in the deal ha ha ha

We're all the other sets substandard then?
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 14:18
I had 3 Sets of Prets to be exact, all of which are now Sold lol
The way I'm looking at it is if I was to pay £1k for a set of Prets if get a new car aswell in the deal ha ha ha

We're all the other sets substandard then?

Yes 2 sets were just OK Becs, 1 set was or as good as.
I'm too fussy sometimes it even annoys me.
I'm tempted to pay the £1k just for something to look forward to, if I don't have the postman arriving at least 3 times a week I'm not happy
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Booth11 on 07 May 2016, 14:48
I had 3 Sets of Prets to be exact, all of which are now Sold lol
The way I'm looking at it is if I was to pay £1k for a set of Prets if get a new car aswell in the deal ha ha ha

We're all the other sets substandard then?

Yes 2 sets were just OK Becs, 1 set was or as good as.
I'm too fussy sometimes it even annoys me.
I'm tempted to pay the £1k just for something to look forward to, if I don't have the postman arriving at least 3 times a week I'm not happy

Lol. 

Well I can't say I never buy stuff for the sake of it myself, as my detailing cupboard attests to, and the fact my daughter thinks the postman/courier guy is a member of the family, lol.  But when it comes to a car I personally like to hang onto it for a few years - 3 or 4 and really own it and get to know it intimately, and of course lavish all my detailing attention on it. Changing cars every few months is too transient for me.  I can sort of understand someone swapping early for another totally different car bit for one almost identical? Still, we are all different and if you can afford it, you should do what makes you happy. Life is short and you can't take it with you!
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Pinky1959 on 07 May 2016, 15:23
Go for it , You know you want to .
What about another colour or is the new car in stock ?
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 15:29
Go for it , You know you want to .
What about another colour or is the new car in stock ?
No it's a factory order.
I do love Lapiz but their everywhere, I do love black with Prets but not sure the Pearl Bkack is still an option now? Yes I would and should order a different colour but can't decide which one
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 07 May 2016, 15:52
Yes Ian, you would be mad to, but we all know you're going to do it anyway!!

Just don't sign up for an extended warranty or service plan  :laugh:


Oh, and go see an addiction councillor...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 07 May 2016, 16:58
I got a set of prets last December when I ordered the GTD estate as 19" are not an option on the estate GTD

I sold them earlier in the week when we bought the Audi for £1200 and they were mint condition.

Does anyone know why there is no keyless on the 3 door?
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 17:44
I must say the lack of Keykess is a big factor in my decision!!
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: gtiaps on 07 May 2016, 17:47
App Connect / CarPlay can be retro-activated on your current car. Assuming it's MIB 2?
You already have prets don't you?

I'd hate to lose keyless personally...

Been chatting with my alarm guy he says thefts of keyless entry vehicles is up on normal keyed vehicles obviously desired motors but none the the less I'm glad keyless and push button Starr is no longer available on 2016 gti's  :whistle:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2016, 17:48
App connect is a lot more than 100 quid if you want to add it after.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Bungleaio on 07 May 2016, 18:03
Forget the high beam assist and get the lane assist, this includes dynamic headlights which are brilliant, especially on country roads.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 18:52
App Connect / CarPlay can be retro-activated on your current car. Assuming it's MIB 2?
You already have prets don't you?

I'd hate to lose keyless personally...

Been chatting with my alarm guy he says thefts of keyless entry vehicles is up on normal keyed vehicles obviously desired motors but none the the less I'm glad keyless and push button Starr is no longer available on 2016 gti's  :whistle:

I don't mean to sound ignorant but I don't care a less about thefts, at the end if the day if someone wants something bad enough they will take it off you no matter what! What really annoys me is that it's still available on the 5 door...I just don't understand it at all
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 20:02
Yes Ian, you would be mad to, but we all know you're going to do it anyway!!

Just don't sign up for an extended warranty or service plan  :laugh:


Oh, and go see an addiction councillor...  :whistle:

I do need help don't I  :laugh:
Funny when I mentioned to the wife what I was scheming she just smiled, like she was expecting it 2 months ago ha ha ha
What the hell is wrong with me :cry:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: CraigW on 07 May 2016, 21:01
Completely bonkers idea. Your car ain't that old just now is it? The only person who wins out of this is the dealer
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Watts on 07 May 2016, 21:14
Cossieian - yes you would but if you want to, why not! I may nominate you for a New Year's honour for services to the supply of quality used motors :laugh:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 21:27
Cossieian - yes you would but if you want to, why not! I may nominate you for a New Year's honour for services to the supply of quality used motors :laugh:

Ha ha ha that's made me laugh :grin:

Does anyone know if the newer model Rs are being built with any upgrades etc or is it as they are ATM
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 07 May 2016, 23:20
Completely bonkers idea. Your car ain't that old just now is it? The only person who wins out of this is the dealer

I'm going to take the opposite stand point and think Ian would be the winner of its just £1000.

You get a newer car with the £900 wheel upgrade and the MY17 changes which means those childishly fun gauges in the head unit.
All you lose is keyless, and exactly how hard is it to fish a key out of your pocket?

The only change I'd make would be to possibly get a different colour. Or if my pockets really were that inaccessible I'd get a five door and keyless.
Personally I think the GTI looks better in 3 door and the R looks better in 5 door but that's neither here nor there.

No, if I was on PCP myself I'd do exactly the same right now myself.
I'd happily pay £1000 to get a new car with a set of Prets, the ability to get my phone nav up on the radio screen and those childishly fun gauges!
Sorry.


PS. I think I know where your wife was coming from with the revelation she expected it sooner as indeed you did drop a few hints yourself.
Go for it, I would!!
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 07 May 2016, 23:33
Andy what are the extra gauges? Is there any other upgrades new Rs are getting now?
Ref colour, my wife and I chatted about this today and we both just love Tornado Red, I would prefer it to be a different colour but i can't help what I like :embarrassed:

BTW Craig my car is 6 months old now, but will be about 9-10 months old when new one arrives, so practically a classic :wink:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 07 May 2016, 23:47
Red looks great on the R, especially with black mirrors (and dark wheels!)

Evo1986 started a thread with the model year changes back along.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=277500.0  As far as the R/GTI/D is concerned it was the digital boost gauge, g-meter and lap timer that is of interest to those of a childish mentality (like me!) plus there's an increase in price for the rear camera and the sad passing of the much missed glove box lock (that I've never met anybody who's used it).
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Booth11 on 07 May 2016, 23:48
Andy what are the extra gauges? Is there any other upgrades new Rs are getting now?
Ref colour, my wife and I chatted about this today and we both just love Tornado Red, I would prefer it to be a different colour but i can't help what I like :embarrassed:

BTW Craig my car is 6 months old now, but will be about 9-10 months old when new one arrives, so practically a classic :wink:

Ian, it gets the boost pressure gauge, lap timer etc, loses the lock on the gloves and gets frameless rear view mirror.  That's it, the boost gauges are nifty but otherwise not much to shout about in terms of upgrades.

In all honestly I think you are absolutely nuts to chop yours in for an almost identical car - losing keyless, which is brilliant, and gaining very little. But your car and your money so enjoy.  :smiley:

Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Watts on 08 May 2016, 10:25
Completely bonkers idea. Your car ain't that old just now is it? The only person who wins out of this is the dealer

I'm going to take the opposite stand point and think Ian would be the winner of its just £1000.

You get a newer car with the £900 wheel upgrade and the MY17 changes which means those childishly fun gauges in the head unit.
All you lose is keyless, and exactly how hard is it to fish a key out of your pocket?

The only change I'd make would be to possibly get a different colour. Or if my pockets really were that inaccessible I'd get a five door and keyless.
Personally I think the GTI looks better in 3 door and the R looks better in 5 door but that's neither here nor there.

No, if I was on PCP myself I'd do exactly the same right now myself.
I'd happily pay £1000 to get a new car with a set of Prets, the ability to get my phone nav up on the radio screen and those childishly fun gauges!
Sorry.


PS. I think I know where your wife was coming from with the revelation she expected it sooner as indeed you did drop a few hints yourself.
Go for it, I would!!

I kind of agree with this (bar the 3/5 door remark since clearly 3 door always looks better :wink:) but the only thing is it's not really just £1000 + £10 extra a month but it will also be the up to 10 pcp payments made on the existing car so £3-4k depending on the monthlies. That's how I'd view it.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 08 May 2016, 11:33
I was going on the assumption that young Ian would be planning his next car 45 mins after taking delivery of 'Red R #2" therefore the PCP's are an ongoing thing in a never ending cycle.
I don't think there will ever be a forever car to settle down with, so the PCP's just roll over.
I've never tried a PCP so am not overly familiar with their machinations other from what I've digested on here.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: kalimon on 08 May 2016, 12:30
I know cars are just hunks of metal but I get seriously attached to mine, so the idea of just swapping it out all the time is a complete mystery to me. Just buy something you really like already!!
Another thing, 3 door Golfs just look weird. Just buy a  Scirocco :whistle:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 08 May 2016, 12:44
I was going on the assumption that young Ian would be planning his next car 45 mins after taking delivery of 'Red R #2" therefore the PCP's are an ongoing thing in a never ending cycle.
I don't think there will ever be a forever car to settle down with, so the PCP's just roll over.
I've never tried a PCP so am not overly familiar with their machinations other from what I've digested on here.

Sounds like you have me summed up Andy ha ha ha.
As much as I love my cars, and trust me I do, cars are my life. I just don't get attached to them. I find the thrill of the chase and always having something round the corner to look forward to keeps me going! Life is way way to short and as I've always said if it's affordable and comfortably within my means I just do it.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 08 May 2016, 14:18
I know cars are just hunks of metal but I get seriously attached to mine, so the idea of just swapping it out all the time is a complete mystery to me. Just buy something you really like already!!
Another thing, 3 door Golfs just look weird. Just buy a  Scirocco :whistle:

I'm a bit/lot like Ian and tend to have a fast turnaround of both bits and cars. The only cars I become attached to are my old runabouts which I generally keep until they fall apart.
Ideally I should work in a car dealers and just drive something different every few months then I'd cease to care even less! Maybe I'll consider it as yet again my work seem to be looking at pulling my grade so I'll have to drop down into a lower pay band job, it happens every few years as support staff are generally easier targets than operational staff. Time for something new maybe (once they've 'bought' my job off me with a ridiculous offer). I fancy working for myself but have no useful skills!
I quite fancy a Scirocco myself btw, came close a few times but never close enough.
There are just too many interesting cars on the market so I'd never settle for just being happy with one car once I'd fiddled about with it for a while. It's a good job I'm not like that with women or I'd have nowhere to live, no money and no pension several times over  :lipsrsealed:

I was going on the assumption that young Ian would be planning his next car 45 mins after taking delivery of 'Red R #2" therefore the PCP's are an ongoing thing in a never ending cycle.
I don't think there will ever be a forever car to settle down with, so the PCP's just roll over.
I've never tried a PCP so am not overly familiar with their machinations other from what I've digested on here.

Sounds like you have me summed up Andy ha ha ha.
As much as I love my cars, and trust me I do, cars are my life. I just don't get attached to them. I find the thrill of the chase and always having something round the corner to look forward to keeps me going! Life is way way to short and as I've always said if it's affordable and comfortably within my means I just do it.
Don't worry, I understand fully!
I've always been much the same; buy one, do a few bits to it, sell it, rinse, repeat.

Workmates have long since tired of asking "why'd you change cars again, what was wrong with the last one?"
"Nothing, I just felt like it"  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: kalimon on 08 May 2016, 14:27
Talking of Scirocco's, does anyone know why keyless is available on a 3dr roc but not a 3dr Golf ?
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Bungleaio on 08 May 2016, 18:10
It used to be as I have a my16 3door with it.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 08 May 2016, 19:09
It used to be as I have a my16 3door with it.
It mysteriously changed around BW45 last year
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Pinky1959 on 09 May 2016, 20:33
Completely bonkers idea. Your car ain't that old just now is it? The only person who wins out of this is the dealer


And the next owner !as the car is well looked after immaculate .
does your wife have her own car or just use yours ?
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 12 May 2016, 05:31
It's all gone a bit quiet from Ian; so when are we expecting the new arrival then?  :grin:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 12 May 2016, 07:57
It's all gone a bit quiet from Ian; so when are we expecting the new arrival then?  :grin:

Andy, I'm still trying my best to squeeze every last penny out of my dealer, even though I think it's a good enough deal, I want to feel like it was worth it if you know what I mean :wink:
I'll keep ya posted :smiley:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 12 May 2016, 13:50
Ha ha ha! He's having to sing for his supper then!
He should know it'll be worth his while as you'll be back for another by xmas  :grin:

Bon chance with the haggling!
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 12 May 2016, 21:36
Got another 2 quotes from 2 dealers today, they can't even get within £2k of what I've been offered :sad:

One of them actually said that if the quote I've been given is legit then to go and buy it, it's a unbelievably good deal. He actually looked confused as fook as to how they were doing it :huh: Think I'll call tomorrow and make it happen :grin:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 13 May 2016, 05:15
Fingers crossed it all goes through ok then. It was rather a good deal.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Cossieian on 13 May 2016, 16:41
Deal Done today :smiley:, final details were:
3 Door
Tornado Red
DSG
19 Prets
Winter Pack
Apple Connect
Rear View Camera
High Beam Assist
Gloss Black Mirrors
2 Years Servicing
My Reg Transferred
Full Tank Fuel

£1000 from me and extra £10pm

I know its rediculously crazy to do but hey I couldn't resist, by the time new car arrives there will be 12k miles plus on mine so straight back to 0 again :grin:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Exonian on 13 May 2016, 16:45
Yay! Well done Ian!

It doesn't sound crazy to me, it sounds like a pretty ok deal but then again that's not saying much is it?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: Watts on 13 May 2016, 18:22
Great news, love to see such enthusiasm! I'd ask how its going to be waiting for delivery but you're probably used to it! Great spec and of course the colour - don't blame you for sticking to TR, best decision I made. Prets will look great too.
Title: Re: Would I be mad to?
Post by: p3asa on 13 May 2016, 23:48
£1000 down and just £10 a month more is a great deal. Well done and a great spec.