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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: gazmondo35 on 04 May 2016, 19:11
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https://youtu.be/_-eF3JNFNLM
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I enjoyed that, thanks for posting it.
Has to be the Mk2 for me, it just looks superb!
I'm also a fan of the Mk5 and should have bought one in 2006 instead of buying a diesel A3 ( I know, what a dick! ) :laugh:
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For me it would be MK5 first, then MK7, possibly MK2 3rd (purely down to its timeless looks, as I've never actually driven one).
The MK5 was my first GTI and I really loved that car. While the MK7 is arguably better in every way I don't think it's as much fun as the MK5 was in its heyday.
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For a trip down memory lane that I do remember it's gotta be the mk2 for thr pure nostalgia then the mk7 because that's wot iv got now then the mk5 except I didn't like the rear light clusters other than that cooool lol thanks for sharing old memories :whistle:
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Got a soft spot for a Mk1 Campaign in either black or white, loved my Mk 5 that I had for 6 years and of course my Mk 7 is fantastic!
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For me it would be MK5 first, then MK7, possibly MK2 3rd (purely down to its timeless looks, as I've never actually driven one).
The MK5 was my first GTI and I really loved that car. While the MK7 is arguably better in every way I don't think it's as much fun as the MK5 was in its heyday.
I agree 100%. I owned a MK5 GTI for 6 years and absolutely loved it. Still miss it to this day and often harbour thoughts of buying one, but I know it would probably seem a bit slow alongside my R. A MK2 would be great, but good ones are very hard to come by nowadays.
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For me it would be MK5 first, then MK7, possibly MK2 3rd (purely down to its timeless looks, as I've never actually driven one).
The MK5 was my first GTI and I really loved that car. While the MK7 is arguably better in every way I don't think it's as much fun as the MK5 was in its heyday.
I agree 100%. I owned a MK5 GTI for 6 years and absolutely loved it. Still miss it to this day and often harbour thoughts of buying one, but I know it would probably seem a bit slow alongside my R. A MK2 would be great, but good ones are very hard to come by nowadays.
I think there's a huge rose-tinted nostalgia with the older cars too. Have you ever sat in a MK4 or hell, even a MK5 recently? As much as I love the MK5, it does feel rather dated now when you sit into one, if you are used to the newer stuff. You're far more cosseted in the mk7 cabin.
As I said, I've never driven a mk2, but I can't imagine using one as a daily driver. A great car it was for sure, but in the modern era it's bound to feel very very old.
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For me it would be MK5 first, then MK7, possibly MK2 3rd (purely down to its timeless looks, as I've never actually driven one).
The MK5 was my first GTI and I really loved that car. While the MK7 is arguably better in every way I don't think it's as much fun as the MK5 was in its heyday.
I agree 100%. I owned a MK5 GTI for 6 years and absolutely loved it. Still miss it to this day and often harbour thoughts of buying one, but I know it would probably seem a bit slow alongside my R. A MK2 would be great, but good ones are very hard to come by nowadays.
Completely with you both on this.
My Mk5 was my first Golf GTI (had a Peugeot GTI before that), and still is my all time favourite car (so far), loved it so much that I replaced it after 3 years with another Mk5 GTI which I kept for 4 years - so 7 years in a Mk5 in total. It had an exciting rawness that is missing now. Mk6 and Mk 7 (ok not a GTI) too refined.
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Was it really 1979 when the GTI came over here. It was 1978 in Ireland.
For me yes there are better cars than the Mk1 but because it was the first for me it has to be the best.
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I'm guessing the editor of that wasn't a big GTI fan as he put the Mk6 in in place of the Mk7 at 7:00 minutes. :rolleyes:
Edited because of stupid apple autocorrect :rolleyes:
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I'm guessing the editor of that wasn't a bit GTI fan as he put a glop of the Mk6 in in place of the Mk7 at 7:00 minutes. :rolleyes:
Haha eagle eyed :wink: must admit it took me a couple of rewinds to see what you mean :laugh:
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I'm guessing the editor of that wasn't a bit GTI fan as he put a glop of the Mk6 in in place of the Mk7 at 7:00 minutes. :rolleyes:
Haha eagle eyed :wink: must admit it took me a couple of rewinds to see what you mean :laugh:
Two GTI's I haven't had, Mk1 because I was too young(born in '71) and a Mk7 but I could also mention the Mk6 but my wife had one of them up to the week before last.
I agree with the guy in the video about the Mk3/4 although the Mk4 he was driving had 4motion wheels and he didn't say whether it was a 150 or 180bhp.
I do have a personal love for the Mk2 especially in oak green and preferably small bumper, possibly G60 arches but everything else standard.
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MK2.
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The Mk2 is a brilliant little car.
Yes, it feels incredibly dated by modern standards, but then again, so do 1980's mobile phones. You could still talk to other people on them tho'. They did exactly what they were supposed to do, just like the Golf.
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Pretty much in step with the rest of board, the MK V is where they really got it right, the front grill is completely spot on.
This statement might go against the board though as have seen certain MK 6 that have really turned my head with the constant being bespoke wheels. IE: An immaculate white MK 6 GTI with some Black BBS Wheels parked locally :cool:
Quite like the MK 6 R also. So some unexpected love for the MK 6
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In its day the Mk2 especially in 16v flavour was something else. You have to remember back in mid 80's there were no turbo diesels so it did rule the roost in its sector. In 2016 the car market has so many cars/options it's hard for a GTi to stand out like it did in the 80's. Also as we know from Mk4 onwards the GTi is no longer the top Golf. OK back in Mk2 days there was the G60 but if memory serves me right these are all LHD so not exactly something I would want when trying to overtake on a normal A/B road. Hence to conclude my winner is Mk2 16v Oak Green, big bumper and BBS alloys.
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For me it would be MK5 first, then MK7, possibly MK2 3rd (purely down to its timeless looks, as I've never actually driven one).
The MK5 was my first GTI and I really loved that car. While the MK7 is arguably better in every way I don't think it's as much fun as the MK5 was in its heyday.
I agree 100%. I owned a MK5 GTI for 6 years and absolutely loved it. Still miss it to this day and often harbour thoughts of buying one, but I know it would probably seem a bit slow alongside my R. A MK2 would be great, but good ones are very hard to come by nowadays.
I think there's a huge rose-tinted nostalgia with the older cars too. Have you ever sat in a MK4 or hell, even a MK5 recently? As much as I love the MK5, it does feel rather dated now when you sit into one, if you are used to the newer stuff. You're far more cosseted in the mk7 cabin.
As I said, I've never driven a mk2, but I can't imagine using one as a daily driver. A great car it was for sure, but in the modern era it's bound to feel very very old.
Yeah, I'm lucky enough to have owned a Golf of every generation in one form or another, with the exception of the MK6. I remember thinking the MK5 felt a bit cheap after the MK4, but the MK1 and MK2 were rarely enjoyable unless you had perfectly smooth, flat roads. Less said of the MK3 the better, it was my first Golf and it was awful, quickly got moved on for a MK2 1.8 Driver which I loved, despite the accelerator frequently sticking when fully depressed!
As Alex said in the video, the MK7 is an incredibly complete car, it's hard to know how they'd improve it IMO.
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Quite like the MK 6 R also. So some unexpected love for the MK 6
I really like the MK6, but I owned a MK5 GTI at the time it came out, and it really didn't offer many reasons to change. Same chassis, barely any more powerful, nicer place to sit but fairly similar standard spec.
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Guess a lot of this depends on how you define great, but the Mk 1 GTI defined a whole genre of cars, so there must be a degree of greatness there!
Whoever had the idea is a true Great! I had a Mk1 Cortina GT around the end of the '60s, which had about 80 bhp from memory and had the same sporty accents, but it was a much bigger, heavier car, so the performance and handling were not close.
Without the Mk 1, none of the others, plus all the competition, would exist.
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Hence to conclude my winner is Mk2 16v Oak Green, big bumper and BBS alloys.
Do I win a prize?
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/SAM_0033_zps49c2c98e.jpg) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/dubber36/media/SAM_0033_zps49c2c98e.jpg.html)
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Hence to conclude my winner is Mk2 16v Oak Green, big bumper and BBS alloys.
Do I win a prize?
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/dubber36/SAM_0033_zps49c2c98e.jpg) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/dubber36/media/SAM_0033_zps49c2c98e.jpg.html)
Definitely. That is lovely.
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Have to confess that my current car is the only GTI I've ever even been in, let alone driven. I was more into coupes for the first 10 or so years of my driving life (mk1 & 2 Capris - a very tatty 3ltr GT - Alfa Sprint, mk2 Scirroco and a Lotus Excel) and didn't particularly like hot hatches but I did/do like the mks 1&2 GTIs especially the simplicity and purity of the mk1. Then for me it all went downhill until the mk5, the first hot hatch I ever actually fancied getting, but didn't. Enjoyed my A4 too much. As said, these thoughts are based purely on aesthetics with some prejudice thrown in, not performance, build quality etc.
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The mrs has had her MK5 GT since ex-demo and it still drives lovely- I keep trying to nudge her into a MK7 GTD but she isn't fussed even with 120k miles on the clock
I haven't got my MK3 16v Anniversary anymore but it's the one car that got the most interest from people- wasn't a bad car to drive with new coilovers but it was a rust bucket and the electrics were pants and not the best car to cover 20k a year in, so I'm back to my 3rd A4 Avant (2004 B6) which is bomb-proof
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Mk2 for me. Never drove a 7 so cant comment.
Use my mk2 everyday because I love the simplicity of it. Seats are comfier to me than new seats.
Not got loads of power but enough to have fun through the a roads.
My passat daily hardly gets used by me because of the abive
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Got to be the Mk7 for me...although I bought Mk3 VR6 in 1993 and it was such a pile of poo a stayed away from VW until now, despite many Audis, Mercs, Porsches and such in the interimin...but I am am now retired, so the GTI sits well my ritement plan!
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Having owned 3, it's the mk2 for me!
More solid & polished than the mk1- dynamically better than the hopeless mk3 & lardy mk4.
Tweakable, handle great, massive fun
A good valver is still a great trackday toy!
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MK2 for me .I had two.First one new in1985 . C reg 3 door in red .Superb car in every respect . Swopped to a five door F reg three years later as growing family. it had different fuel injection from the first one and not as good to drive but otherwise super car again. But I saw a video a while ago of one being crash tested and it did not do well ! You do not realise how much safety has moved on until you see these older cars in a modern crash test
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Having driven my car yesterday for the first time since October, it confirms by opinion.
All of it's modest power is useable, and because it's not as cosseting as a modern car, it feels like you are going faster. Mine has completely stock suspension and it works. It is so small that it can be placed with pin point accuracy, but also easily adjusted with either the throttle or steering when pushing on.
Comfort and performance wise, it would be possible to use one daily, but my concern is always what if it has a bump? Even with agreed value insurance covering the cost, parts are few and far between, so the difficulties of repairing it could mean its game over. I think they need to be enjoyed on a sunny day with the sunroof open and a Don Henley cassette playing.
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Having driven my car yesterday for the first time since October, it confirms by opinion.
All of it's modest power is useable, and because it's not as cosseting as a modern car, it feels like you are going faster. Mine has completely stock suspension and it works. It is so small that it can be placed with pin point accuracy, but also easily adjusted with either the throttle or steering when pushing on.
Comfort and performance wise, it would be possible to use one daily, but my concern is always what if it has a bump? Even with agreed value insurance covering the cost, parts are few and far between, so the difficulties of repairing it could mean its game over. I think they need to be enjoyed on a sunny day with the sunroof open and a Don Henley cassette playing.
I agree with this, if mine had a bump id have it repaired but finding genuine parts is the problem. Theres plenty of mk2s running round with non gen bumpers and wings that you wouldnt notice unless they were of the car
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Having driven my car yesterday for the first time since October, it confirms by opinion.
All of it's modest power is useable, and because it's not as cosseting as a modern car, it feels like you are going faster. Mine has completely stock suspension and it works. It is so small that it can be placed with pin point accuracy, but also easily adjusted with either the throttle or steering when pushing on.
Comfort and performance wise, it would be possible to use one daily, but my concern is always what if it has a bump? Even with agreed value insurance covering the cost, parts are few and far between, so the difficulties of repairing it could mean its game over. I think they need to be enjoyed on a sunny day with the sunroof open and a Don Henley cassette playing.
Nice post. That's a fabulous looking MK2 you have there, I'd be terrified of damaging it too!
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We've had a thread like this before, possibly several that invariably get moved into the general section.
I'm another that has owned an example of each generation of Golf GTI excluding the mk3 (I had two VR6s instead and an Ibiza Cupra GTI which uses a mk3 GTI engine and front suspension).
I've had one mk1 GTI plus a Scirocco GTI using the same platform.
I've had at least four mk2 GTI's, it's too long ago to remember exactly how many but I think it's four.
I had one mk4 GTI 1.8t
A mk5 GTI
2 mk6 GTI's
& a mk7 GTI PP
I'm torn on which is the greatest for me.
My mk1 was hideously unreliable as standard and was also the first car I went to town on modifying so I have mixed emotions on that one. The mk1 Campaign was the best looking GTI by far though.
I never really gelled with the mk2 16V so that one is out.
I had three(?) mk2 8V's and I still think these are the best blend of talents vs build quality - as Dubber says, useable performance, not too heavy, not too big and built like tanks.
The mk3 GTI was... well I guess it was ok in its day as far as Golfs of that day went but the VR6 was a much nicer car to drive just for the sound.
The mk4 GTI was ok once remapped and with decent shock absorbers, I also owned a Leon Cupra 1.8t of the same generation and much preferred the driving dynamics of the latter.
The mk5 GTI runs the mk2 GTI close - it still looks good today and has aged well unlike the regular mk5's.
The mk6's were really good cars too, can't fault them.
The mk7 GTI again was just a fantastic car. So good that VW thought to re-introduce the golf ball gear knob as standard for a non special edition GTI after many many years. That says it all!
It's quite hard to separate cars that spanned nearly 30 years of my life into which is best, and I also owned different cars amongst those totaling well over 20 cars in all.
I still run an old GTI as a family hack too, it's a bit rough round the edges but up until now has been very reliable over many years and generally easy to fix or get fixed. As it's got older I tend to do more jobs myself on it.
The only car I felt really sad to see go as it drove away was my black big bumper GTI 8v. I sold that on my birthday and couldn't eat my meal later in the day I was that sad to see it go. That was about 20 years ago now and I've never become attached to any of my Golfs since, so that will have to be my answer - a mk2 8V Golf GTI with power steering was the greatest GTI for me and the mk7 GTI running it a close second; when I bought my first GTI back in 1987 230 BHP was the sort of power dreams were made of when it came to GTI's. Even the iconic quattro of the day only produced 200bhp util the runout models a couple years later with the 20v heads.
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back in 1987 230 BHP was the sort of power dreams were made of when it came to GTI's. Even the iconic quattro of the day only produced 200bhp util the runout models a couple years later with the 20v heads.
In around 1989, I had a Cavalier SRI 130 which I thought was quick. Somehow I managed to blag a test drive in a Sapphire Cosworth which had around 220 BHP. That thing felt ballistic. I wonder how one would feel these days?
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back in 1987 230 BHP was the sort of power dreams were made of when it came to GTI's. Even the iconic quattro of the day only produced 200bhp util the runout models a couple years later with the 20v heads.
In around 1989, I had a Cavalier SRI 130 which I thought was quick. Somehow I managed to blag a test drive in a Sapphire Cosworth which had around 220 BHP. That thing felt ballistic. I wonder how one would feel these days?
Probally still feel quick in todays stqndards, even though its nearly 30 years on
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Ok I have finally made up my mind ,but before I get to that here is what I'm been driving over the last 20years
My love For fast golfs started with a 1990 big bumper golf gti in Tornado red (poverty spec)it had no alloys wheels ,no powered steering ,no Central locking or Electric windows but I loved it .I done 60000 trouble free miles in it & still managed to sell it for what I paid for it.
Golf gti mk3 8v not much to say about this,it should have never been given a gti badge,I quickly replaced this with golf Vr6 ,which I did love at the time,but God did it understeer.
It was while had golf vr6 I bought a mk1 golf GTI campaign ,it needed a lot of work to start with but once it was sorted ,it was like driving a go kart so much fun on the twisty stuff,it still annoys me to this day that I gave the car away for free.
Never had a mk4 gti drove a few stock ones but didn't like it, went for a 2001 mk4 4 motion instead ,this car was pretty much fully loaded ,the leather Ricardo seats were amazing ,the previous owner had specialists to fit the Rockford Fossgate stereo system ( still to this day I haven't Heard a better car stereo)
It was ok to drive amazing engine sound ,but lacked in the handling department.
Then onto the golf gtii mk5 ,it took me nearly 3 months to find the right car in the right spec, finally bought a Tr gti dsg. such a awesome all-round car ,i used to love the fact he had a better gearbox then what you would get in some Ferraris for the time ,ended mapping it & keeping it for 6 years.
Never had mk6 gti or r (recession years )
Mk 7 gti pp in TR it so refined it never as raw as my mk 5 did , so I decided to spice it up a bit with a revo map,but that ended breaking a Engine mount on Santa pod Raceway, smashing the gearbox radiator, catalytic converter & some other bits £8000 Worth of damage.
So anyway whats my favourite ,it a very close call between mk2 & mk5 they are both awesome cars but for me it's the mk 5 .
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Gazmondo, funnily enough I always thought your username was because you'd had an Ed35, it's interesting to see that's the one model you've not had!
I was tempted to put the mk5 ahead of the mk7 too. I loved mine, especially once mapped.
My mk4 GTI was mapped too and that transformed it, as did the Koni suspension I had on it but alas the latter's ride quality was what hastened me to strip it back to standard and sell it again.
Funny you should say you enjoyed the V6 4mo as I went to buy one of those but came home with a second hand GTI 1.8t instead! I found the 4mo a bit flat after the VR6 and the engine too muted in the cabin. I've always regretted not buying a mk4 R32 though, but had young kids at the time and no money!
It was your and Lee's (remlapeel) front suspension disasters that stopped me mapping my mk7 GTI and instead swayed me towards the R. The lighter weight of this model of Golf definitely comes at a cost of thinner metal.
Going back to the comments about the Sierra Cosworths power: I agree, they'd still feel very rapid today and would take considerably more driver skill and provide more fun than the modern VW and Ford 220 - 250 bhp hot hatches. Even the R with 300 bhp has much of its character subdued from the factory forcing you too look to the aftermarket to bring a bit of old skool fun back to driving.
Those that like a bit of driving fun that is, rather than worrying about keyless and radar cruise control... :whistle:
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Gazmondo, funnily enough I always thought your username was because you'd had an Ed35, it's interesting to see that's the one model you've not had!
I was tempted to put the mk5 ahead of the mk7 too. I loved mine, especially once mapped.
My mk4 GTI was mapped too and that transformed it, as did the Koni suspension I had on it but alas the latter's ride quality was what hastened me to strip it back to standard and sell it again.
Funny you should say you enjoyed the V6 4mo as I went to buy one of those but came home with a second hand GTI 1.8t instead! I found the 4mo a bit flat after the VR6 and the engine too muted in the cabin. I've always regretted not buying a mk4 R32 though, but had young kids at the time and no money!
It was your and Lee's (remlapeel) front suspension disasters that stopped me mapping my mk7 GTI and instead swayed me towards the R. The lighter weight of this model of Golf definitely comes at a cost of thinner metal.
Going back to the comments about the Sierra Cosworths power: I agree, they'd still feel very rapid today and would take considerably more driver skill and provide more fun than the modern VW and Ford 220 - 250 bhp hot hatches. Even the R with 300 bhp has much of its character subdued from the factory forcing you too look to the aftermarket to bring a bit of old skool fun back to driving.
Those that like a bit of driving fun that is, rather than worrying about keyless and radar cruise control... :whistle:
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The 35 in gazmondo certainly makes you think golf mk6 , but the reality is when I signed up to this forum I only had one burning question to ask (which was why is the manual mk 7 golf GTI got the same 0-60 time as the dsg Version.
so the first username I could think of was my PS3 username ,which is how old i was when the PS3 was launched.
If there was one car I which I could have owned it would have been the mk4 r32 ( for the time it was out of my pay grade )
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Did you ever find out why the manual and DSG are on an even keel in mk7 guise?
It's interesting to note the Clubsport S is manual only (I'm sure I read that somewhere).