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Title: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: david25 on 06 April 2016, 18:15

S3 facelift
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-a3-facelift-revealed

The S3’s turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine gains an added 10bhp, taking it to 306bhp. In combination with an optional S-tronic dual-clutch automatic gearbox, it also receives an additional 15lb ft of torque, at 295lb ft.

Plus "soft" GTI model with 187bhp 2.0 four-pot turbo.
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: Exonian on 06 April 2016, 18:24
I see Audi are mirroring BMW with a plethora of flaps all over the front ends.

Fingers crossed the R gets the improved engine, the 10PS might be a bit academic but the extra torque won't go amiss.

Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: kalimon on 06 April 2016, 18:25
I thought S3's had 5 cylinders although I could well be wrong again :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: Exonian on 06 April 2016, 18:26
I thought S3's had 5 cylinders although I could well be wrong again :rolleyes:
That's the RS3
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: barrym381 on 06 April 2016, 18:26
I thought S3's had 5 cylinders although I could well be wrong again :rolleyes:
its the rs3 that has the 5 pot  :smiley: s3 is 4 cylinder
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: kalimon on 06 April 2016, 18:28
Yes, just read the brochure. I wasn't THAT wrong this time :laugh:
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: 2014GTi on 06 April 2016, 18:32
Just ordered my Golf R, guess it'll be really lucky if Volkswagen introduce the same 10bhp uplift before mine is built :(
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 April 2016, 19:54
I see Audi are mirroring BMW with a plethora of flaps all over the front ends.

Fingers crossed the R gets the improved engine, the 10PS might be a bit academic but the extra torque won't go amiss.

I thought the revision would see the (optional) ACC sensor in a place less prone to damage, like behind the badging (as the Passat has).
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: Exonian on 07 April 2016, 10:24
The self steering feature makes me despair a bit.
With DSG, ACC and now autonomous steering why even bother owning a car? Save yourself a load of money and just dial up an uber cab when you go out if you really are at the stage where the car needs to drive itself.
I feel like a dinosaur. I've spent money on bits to make a manual car more tactile to dial out the fact VW have done an excellent job in disguising the power the engine is capable of putting out. The standard throttle pedal and clutch pedal are as sensitive as bath sponges so a pedal box and clutch stop were excellent investments. With a few other enhancements the car now feels how it should.
Ok, my coordination isn't the best in the world and when I have my DM work boots on (I have to cross a yard in work to fill the kettle so therefore it's deemed legally necessary for me to wear steelies in case an artic rolls over my toes) my driving is probably like performing ballet in deep sea diving boots but...

Then again maybe Audi has a point. Why should I perform aerobic exercises while at the wheel when I could just shove my hands in my pockets and leave the car to it?

Nah, b0ll0cks to it all, I'm downloading the uber app; anybody want to buy a low mileage manual R?
Yeah, they're a bit common but they're a great way of staying fit...
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Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: fredgroves on 07 April 2016, 10:35
For anyone driving for a job then the traffic jam assist will be an absolute godsend!

I love ACC already, it really makes a difference to long old motorway journeys and I know that with DSG it would be even better.

Now all they need to do is to figure out a way of maybe getting the 20 speed DSG box working so that I can actually afford DSG on a company car (DSG adds to the CO2 figure at the moment, which when you add it to the cost of DSG makes it massively expensive for me). Mind you, increasingly driving any petrol or diesel company car will be expensive any way you skin it - the future BIK rates I've seen to 2020 are mad :(

Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: Finglonga on 07 April 2016, 14:33
Facelift? Maybe just me but it still looks as bland as the current model.
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: GrahamFR on 08 April 2016, 12:49
this will just be an ecu tweak gents, like the cupra 290, both will remap stage1 to the same figures so no one is losing out by this change even if VW dont bring it to the R, it does herald the way for a FL on the golf though, so i wouldnt be ordering right now.
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: Exonian on 09 April 2016, 05:20
this will just be an ecu tweak gents, like the cupra 290, both will remap stage1 to the same figures so no one is losing out by this change even if VW dont bring it to the R, it does herald the way for a FL on the golf though, so i wouldnt be ordering right now.
From comments on Cupranet I don't think it was even a map change was it? More of a badge change as they seem to reckon it's running the same tune as an R.

For those not interested in going stage 1 I think the slight hump in torque may make a difference to drivability. Again, assuming it's even a different map(?), mind you the R power graphs I've seen generally read on the lower side unlike GTI graphs which seem to reflect the car makes more power than 220/230PS.
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: GrahamFR on 09 April 2016, 06:38
No I think seat must've done something, surely it's fraud to not to, but I think many owners (dyno dependant also) are seeing higher than 280 that's all
Title: Re: Will Golf R get new S3 306bhp engine?
Post by: Exonian on 10 April 2016, 10:33
No I think seat must've done something, surely it's fraud to not to, but I think many owners (dyno dependant also) are seeing higher than 280 that's all

Good point.
As if VW group would ever risk any fraudulent claims when it comes to vehicle outputs and emissions.
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