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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GTI_Redpath on 17 March 2016, 17:18

Title: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 17 March 2016, 17:18
Well, after having my GTI for 2 and a half years im looking into the next car, specifically the Golf R. Haven't done much else other than have a look on the configurator. noticed that since i last looked at it, keyless is no longer an option. Anyone know if this is a mistake or if keyless is still an option and if it is, whats the price?
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: wantmygti on 17 March 2016, 17:29
It's no longer an option on 3 door cars weirdly. You can spec it on a 5 door...
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: dean5i on 17 March 2016, 22:25
I know keyless is not available for 3 doors on the configurator.

I've looked on the VW used car site a few times and keep seeing 16 plate 3 door with keyless.

How are these cars getting ordered if its not an option.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: vw spur on 17 March 2016, 22:30
I know keyless is not available for 3 doors on the configurator.

I've looked on the VW used car site a few times and keep seeing 16 plate 3 door with keyless.

How are these cars getting ordered if its not an option.

They must have been made before the switch was made, they've probably been sat around and only just been registered
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: p3asa on 17 March 2016, 23:02
I know keyless is not available for 3 doors on the configurator.

I've looked on the VW used car site a few times and keep seeing 16 plate 3 door with keyless.

How are these cars getting ordered if its not an option.

They must have been made before the switch was made, they've probably been sat around and only just been registered


Like he ^^^ said. They must have been sitting around for a few months as that change came into effect on 26th October 2015.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276063.msg2523435#msg2523435  Evo1986 is a VW dealer in case you are wondering.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 22 March 2016, 16:26
so keyless entry isnt available AT ALL on 3 door cars? its not even standard? thats very very odd!
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: kalimon on 22 March 2016, 17:18
This has been common knowledge for a good while now.
No one seems to know the reason either.
I've just got a 5 dr GTI and keyless is brilliant.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Talk-torque on 22 March 2016, 18:00
This has been common knowledge for a good while now.
No one seems to know the reason either.
I've just got a 5 dr GTI and keyless is brilliant.

Just to rub it in! LOL.  :grin:
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Booth11 on 22 March 2016, 18:39
This has been common knowledge for a good while now.
No one seems to know the reason either.
I've just got a 5 dr GTI and keyless is brilliant.

Just to rub it in! LOL.  :grin:

Yes, how cruel.  But.....

Keyless is a revelation!  Sorry but it is.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Damion on 22 March 2016, 20:35
I just tried to order a 3 door GTI PP was made aware of no keyless, but dealer said Alarm no longer an option as its part of Keyless pack!
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 March 2016, 08:33
I just tried to order a 3 door GTI PP was made aware of no keyless, but dealer said Alarm no longer an option as its part of Keyless pack!
I very much doubt that Alarm's are no longer fitted, this would cause a massive uproar and insurance issues.
If it's listed on the standard spec and Alarm should be included on the standard spec performance Golf's.
Think your dealer is mistaken, buy via DTD!
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 23 March 2016, 09:01
I just tried to order a 3 door GTI PP was made aware of no keyless, but dealer said Alarm no longer an option as its part of Keyless pack!

Was it Sheehy's outside of Naas? I went into them one time with my CC because I had an airbag light came on and the wanted to charge me 250 euros to run the diagnostics check even though the car was only just over a year old at the time. They said that the warranty didn't cover it because my car was British reg.

I would find it extremely unlikely that they sell a car without an alarm, my bet is that it's yet another salesman talking sh!t.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 March 2016, 15:07
This has been common knowledge for a good while now.
No one seems to know the reason either.
I've just got a 5 dr GTI and keyless is brilliant.

Just to rub it in! LOL.  :grin:

Yes, how cruel.  But.....

Keyless is a revelation!  Sorry but it is.

Not a great miss, pressing a button on the fob to unlock rather than a specific part of the door handle as you pull on it, pushing a button that lasts 5 mins before it lacerates you rather than putting the key in the ignition,and wondering whether it is as secure as the keyed option....£350 saved on an option most Renaults have had as standard for a few years now.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: kalimon on 23 March 2016, 15:45
This has been common knowledge for a good while now.
No one seems to know the reason either.
I've just got a 5 dr GTI and keyless is brilliant.

Just to rub it in! LOL.  :grin:

Yes, how cruel.  But.....

Keyless is a revelation!  Sorry but it is.

Not a great miss, pressing a button on the fob to unlock rather than a specific part of the door handle as you pull on it, pushing a button that lasts 5 mins before it lacerates you rather than putting the key in the ignition,and wondering whether it is as secure as the keyed option....£350 saved on an option most Renaults have had as standard for a few years now.
Having only used it for 10 days I would say it's a huge miss!
I wouldn't have thought it would be worth the money they used to charge for it but having now used it and the push button start, I would pay for it if it was an option.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: JoeGTI on 23 March 2016, 20:17
Damien is in Ireland. The alarm is not standard in Irish GTI's.

@Damien I read elsewhere, think it was boards.ie, that one guy badgered his dealer & VW and they agreed to spec the alarm without keyless. So if I were you I'd badger your dealer and ask them to contact VW Ireland about it. VW Irl are actually pretty accommodating that way.

As for keyless - it's brilliant. Wouldn't have a car without it. The naysayers either haven't tried it or were too tight to spec it.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 23 March 2016, 20:30
As for keyless - it's brilliant. Wouldn't have a car without it. The naysayers either haven't tried it or were too tight to spec it.

After having it on several cars now I would have to agree with that.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Booth11 on 23 March 2016, 20:44
As for keyless - it's brilliant. Wouldn't have a car without it. The naysayers either haven't tried it or were too tight to spec it.

Well said Joe. There are some things that once tried, you can never go back.  Top of my list are :

DSG
Heated seats
Keyless

Regardless of any other option - any car I buy must have these 3 things.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: p3asa on 23 March 2016, 21:13
I'd echo that. I wasn't too fussed about having a car with keyless but it was one of my Mrs stipulations. Keyless and heated seats.

After having only used it a few times I'm really impressed with it and would probably pay for it on any future cars.

@monkeyheanger I've seen a few folk saying keyless is less safe than having a key but nobody has backed this up with evidence. You got any references as I'd be interested to read them.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: JoeGTI on 23 March 2016, 21:16
As for keyless - it's brilliant. Wouldn't have a car without it. The naysayers either haven't tried it or were too tight to spec it.

Well said Joe. There are some things that once tried, you can never go back.  Top of my list are :

DSG
Heated seats
Keyless

Regardless of any other option - any car I buy must have these 3 things.

I think I'd have the same top 3 if I think about it! I have the seat heaters on all the time since the day I got it. DSG and keyless used all the time too obviously.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Booth11 on 23 March 2016, 21:18

I've seen a few folk saying keyless is less safe than having a key but nobody has backed this up with evidence. You got any references as I'd be interested to read them.

That's the line the people without keyless trot out all the time, lol.

Every car theft I have read about (and there's been quite a few) has been the case where they broke into the house for the keys.  If they have a will to nick your car and can take it without breaking in and traumatising the family, good!
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: vw spur on 23 March 2016, 21:37
My sister has keyless on her GTD and she loves it, it took her ages to realise she could unlock the doors without using the fob, I guess that's the downside to leasing as the car was just dropped off to her without any demo of what anything does.

My must haves up to now have been 1.Bluetooth 2. automatic 3. Leather

I've had to sacrifice leather on my GTD which I've got on order, way overpriced at £1700 IMO
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Booth11 on 23 March 2016, 21:43
My sister has keyless on her GTD and she loves it, it took her ages to realise she could unlock the doors without using the fob, I guess that's the downside to leasing as the car was just dropped off to her without any demo of what anything does.

My must haves up to now have been 1.Bluetooth 2. automatic 3. Leather

I've had to sacrifice leather on my GTD which I've got on order, way overpriced at £1700 IMO

I doubt the leather is that much of a sacrifice.  The quality is not the best.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Watts on 23 March 2016, 22:09
My sister has keyless on her GTD and she loves it, it took her ages to realise she could unlock the doors without using the fob, I guess that's the downside to leasing as the car was just dropped off to her without any demo of what anything does.

My must haves up to now have been 1.Bluetooth 2. automatic 3. Leather

I've had to sacrifice leather on my GTD which I've got on order, way overpriced at £1700 IMO

I doubt the leather is that much of a sacrifice.  The quality is not the best.

I had leather on my old Audi which was great. To be honest, when I looked at the leather in the new VWs I couldn't believe how fake it looked and felt, certainly wouldn't pay for it and find the standard cloth to be excellent.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: kalimon on 23 March 2016, 22:29
Lets be honest, not of it's essential!
If you're a tad idle, get the DSG.
Heated seats  if you live in Scandinavia .
Keyless if you keep your keys in a handbag :whistle:
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 24 March 2016, 09:15
My sister has keyless on her GTD and she loves it, it took her ages to realise she could unlock the doors without using the fob, I guess that's the downside to leasing as the car was just dropped off to her without any demo of what anything does.

My must haves up to now have been 1.Bluetooth 2. automatic 3. Leather

I've had to sacrifice leather on my GTD which I've got on order, way overpriced at £1700 IMO

I doubt the leather is that much of a sacrifice.  The quality is not the best.

Having sat in a golf with leather I couldn't believe the difference in the quality of it and the leather in my CC and after nearly 22k with my bulk sitting on it it is still not marked. I doubt very much that I would be saying the same if it was a golf.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Booth11 on 24 March 2016, 09:21
Lets be honest, not of it's essential!
If you're a tad idle, get the DSG.
Heated seats  if you live in Scandinavia .
Keyless if you keep your keys in a handbag :whistle:

I'm a tad idle
I keep my keys in a handbag
I'm thinking of moving to Scandinavia

 :tongue:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Booth11 on 24 March 2016, 09:26
My sister has keyless on her GTD and she loves it, it took her ages to realise she could unlock the doors without using the fob, I guess that's the downside to leasing as the car was just dropped off to her without any demo of what anything does.

My must haves up to now have been 1.Bluetooth 2. automatic 3. Leather

I've had to sacrifice leather on my GTD which I've got on order, way overpriced at £1700 IMO

I doubt the leather is that much of a sacrifice.  The quality is not the best.

Having sat in a golf with leather I couldn't believe the difference in the quality of it and the leather in my CC and after nearly 22k with my bulk sitting on it it is still not marked. I doubt very much that I would be saying the same if it was a golf.

It's not marking that is the issue. It's the sagging.  The latest VW leather looks like Rhino hide - and with just as many wrinkles!  The driver's seat on mine is pretty saggy after only 6 months and I'm not hefty at all.  Can't blame it on my partner as he's probably been in the driver's half dozen times at most. All the other seats are unafflicted but clearly the seat in most use is not faring well.  Looks worse than my mk6 did after 3 years.  :sad:
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Eccie on 24 March 2016, 10:31
I'm a bit late to this party, but keyless is fab, wouldn't be without it, don't have it on our other car and its a PIA. I have leather and its ok, didn't go looking for it, but wanted a sunroof (which is fab) and the leather came with it (2nd hand car).

Leather is the only thing I'd swap, the rest (keyless, sunroof, Dis Pro, RVC, ACC, DCC, DSG is a must) in fact we're toying with swapping my wife car and other than a Audi TT (bit small and no sunroof) I can't think of anything other than a Golf - but that would be a little sad to have two cars the same :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: kalimon on 24 March 2016, 12:15
Lets be honest, not of it's essential!
If you're a tad idle, get the DSG.
Heated seats  if you live in Scandinavia .
Keyless if you keep your keys in a handbag :whistle:

I'm a tad idle
I keep my keys in a handbag
I'm thinking of moving to Scandinavia

 :tongue:  :laugh:
You're certainly not idle when it comes to detailing Rebecca.
I bet it's a Hermes/Prada  bag as well
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: p3asa on 24 March 2016, 12:46
............... I can't think of anything other than a Golf - but that would be a little sad to have two cars the same :embarrassed:


Sad in who's eyes? Yours or your neighbours?  :rolleyes:

When we set out to get my Mrs a new car she had loads of suggestions. We'd be out together and she'd be like "Oh I like that car", "and I like that one"  :grin:
As I've said before she only had a couple of stipulations so after looking at various cars I was always drawn back to the Golf as it had so much standard kit. Other cars might have had the keyless and heated seats that she wanted but literally nothing else for not far off what we would be paying for a Golf so the Golf won.

Albeit its 2 different versions of the golf we have in the GTD & GTI but the neighbours don't see it like that as they say "I see you got yourself another Golf"  :laugh: but it matters not a jot to me.

Get what "you" want.

In fact since getting the other Golf I've noticed there is quite a lot of duplication. In our street alone in the same households there are 2 Jeep, A4's, Focus's, 3 series and minis  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: corgi on 24 March 2016, 16:22
Every car theft I have read about (and there's been quite a few) has been the case where they broke into the house for the keys.  If they have a will to nick your car and can take it without breaking in and traumatising the family, good!

Here's just one of many links discussing thefts of cars with keyless entry... http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/three-keyless-thefts-of-luxury-cars-each-day-in-hampstead-a2944436.html
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 March 2016, 09:40

@monkeyheanger I've seen a few folk saying keyless is less safe than having a key but nobody has backed this up with evidence. You got any references as I'd be interested to read them.

Have a look at this, and pay particular attention to MK7 GTD and Audi A3 mentions....

http://www.bitterwallet.com/keyless-cars-still-at-risk-of-remote-stealing/91504 (http://www.bitterwallet.com/keyless-cars-still-at-risk-of-remote-stealing/91504)

It doesn't state specifically getting away with your car, but by unlocking it they could do a lot of damage to the interior even if they didn't fancy stealing anything from inside the car...
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 26 March 2016, 10:04

@monkeyheanger I've seen a few folk saying keyless is less safe than having a key but nobody has backed this up with evidence. You got any references as I'd be interested to read them.

Have a look at this, and pay particular attention to MK7 GTD and Audi A3 mentions....

http://www.bitterwallet.com/keyless-cars-still-at-risk-of-remote-stealing/91504 (http://www.bitterwallet.com/keyless-cars-still-at-risk-of-remote-stealing/91504)

It doesn't state specifically getting away with your car, but by unlocking it they could do a lot of damage to the interior even if they didn't fancy stealing anything from inside the car...

That actually puts my mind at rest a little. If it means they don't have to break into my house and put both myself and my wife in danger they are welcome to the cars.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: vw spur on 26 March 2016, 11:00

@monkeyheanger I've seen a few folk saying keyless is less safe than having a key but nobody has backed this up with evidence. You got any references as I'd be interested to read them.

Have a look at this, and pay particular attention to MK7 GTD and Audi A3 mentions....

http://www.bitterwallet.com/keyless-cars-still-at-risk-of-remote-stealing/91504 (http://www.bitterwallet.com/keyless-cars-still-at-risk-of-remote-stealing/91504)

It doesn't state specifically getting away with your car, but by unlocking it they could do a lot of damage to the interior even if they didn't fancy stealing anything from inside the car...

That actually puts my mind at rest a little. If it means they don't have to break into my house and put both myself and my wife in danger they are welcome to the cars.

Exactly, if someone wants to steal my car then I'd rather it was taken by some keyless scan machine rather than breaking into my house for the keys.
Title: Re: Golf R Keyless Entry
Post by: Rhyso on 26 March 2016, 11:06
A link to the following site was posted over on one of the Audi forums

http://www.obdportector.com/

Thatcham approved too apparently