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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: hastd2 on 15 February 2016, 11:17
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Guys as you may be aware I placed an order on Saturday for a new Golf R, am undecided on which option to pick between either SatNav or Keyless Entry and Winter pack.....My dealer is giving me either or for a discount price of £700
On my current Gti PP I have full leather, Keyless and SatNav, so am torn between the options to have on the new R
Thoughts
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Do you use sat nav often? if not and you find keyless entry the better option go for that.
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Are you speccing the Car Net App-Connect option for £125?
If you are, between those items, I would choose the keyless and winter pack over the nav because you can hook up your smartphone via App-Connect (CarPlay, Auto Android, Mirrorlink) and use either Maps or Google Maps for the nav. So nav largely redundant.
Keyless is just brilliant, works seamlessly. I have heated seats (which come with leather) but if I was going with cloth interior, Winter Pack would be the first thing I would tick. Could not be without heated seats ever!
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When I use SatNav I use it, but where I stay its not really needed but its nice to have. Keyless my wife loves it and said she would miss it.....am in two minds just to go with Keyless and Winter Pack
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Are you speccing the Car Net App-Connect option for £125?
If you are, between those items, I would choose the keyless and winter pack over the nav because you can hook up your smartphone via App-Connect (CarPlay, Auto Android, Mirrorlink) and use either Maps or Google Maps for the nav. So nav largely redundant.
Keyless is just brilliant, works seamlessly. I have heated seats (which come with leather) but if I was going with cloth interior, Winter Pack would be the first thing I would tick. Could not be without heated seats ever!
This Car Net App, when you say google maps does an image come up on the screen of the map?
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It's difficult, but even though Sat Nav is rarely used, I feel it is seen as a requirement on a car of this type and will be required when it comes to resale.
Personally, I would not buy a GTi / R without it, even though I know a decent smartphone is likely to be a better option in use.
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Are you speccing the Car Net App-Connect option for £125?
If you are, between those items, I would choose the keyless and winter pack over the nav because you can hook up your smartphone via App-Connect (CarPlay, Auto Android, Mirrorlink) and use either Maps or Google Maps for the nav. So nav largely redundant.
Keyless is just brilliant, works seamlessly. I have heated seats (which come with leather) but if I was going with cloth interior, Winter Pack would be the first thing I would tick. Could not be without heated seats ever!
This Car Net App, when you say google maps does an image come up on the screen of the map?
Yes it does. Apps are restricted by VW but Apple's Maps work on iPhone and Google Maps on Android. So whatever permitted app is running on your phone screen appears on your media screen. So you can run music, messages (via Siri) and phone all off app-connect. Only downside is you have to connect the phone via USB cable for app-connect. When not using the phone for app-connect everything else works as normal and can be connected via Bluetooth as usual. But for app-connect to work you have to plug your phone into the USB. It's great for Messages on the move too.
I have Pro Nav but here's me running Maps from my iPhone on screen:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1671/24578810822_3c12d9e522_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DrWQ9o)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1650/24401045460_0d4fc245c2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DbeJGm)
And here's the more general screen
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1451/24433421792_6129742a68_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/De6F3Y)
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It's difficult, but even though Sat Nav is rarely used, I feel it is seen as a requirement on a car of this type and will be required when it comes to resale.
Personally, I would not buy a GTi / R without it, even though I know a decent smartphone is likely to be a better option in use.
I think that used to be true, but if the car has smart phone mirroring or app connect functionality then it's much less important now.
If you aren't choosing the app-connect option then I would go with sat Nav, but in-built Nav system is a huge cost, which starts to look even more pricey when for £125 you can run nav off a phone.
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I'd be tempted by the Kenwood retro fit on nav, i do like the Pro Nav but now you get the connect i'd be tempted to do that first
Heated seats is a given my cold blooded wife
Keyless never really interested me, i'd never pay extra for it
I'm sure they will be due a spec uplift as the GTD is the only VW where the only option for me would be the paint
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Great feed back guys, looked the Car Net App on You tube and looks the biz, so will be ticking that box and scrapping the SatNav.
Keyless entry also will be a ticked box as the wife likes this, so all good so far
Just waiting on the deal for the extras from the dealer!!! :whistle:
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It's difficult, but even though Sat Nav is rarely used, I feel it is seen as a requirement on a car of this type and will be required when it comes to resale.
Personally, I would not buy a GTi / R without it, even though I know a decent smartphone is likely to be a better option in use.
Buying an option to sell a car down the line is just lunacy. If you wont use it then don't spec it. Pay ££££ out to make your car's p/x enhanced by ££ makes no sense at all. If it made a used car THAT much more desirable, you'd be getting your option money back and then some at p/x or sale time.
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I agree up to a point on the lunacy of paying up for options you don't need.
However, VW bring a car out and people queue up to buy, then they add a few options as standard.
Disco Nav is standard now on Gti and not on the R, chances are it soon becomes standard on the R, so those without are lacking.
I know when I bought my GTi which is of an age where Nav was an option, I wouldn't consider one without.
Of course, if you are buying a car for yourself and don't care about future value and residuals etc, then fair enough.
We all have different ideas on how to buy a car.
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Of course, if you are buying a car for yourself and don't care about future value and residuals etc, then fair enough.
What's not to care about? If you buy a car and add options, at best you'll get 20% of your money back when you sell. An R without options will retain more of it's % purchase price than one with options.
If you're buying an option mainly with a view to enhance your residuals, chucking away 80% of your spend to get 20% back at trade-in makes absolutely no sense no matter how you look at it. The R is very well equipped as standard, it will not look bereft of features if it doesn't have Nav or whatever else you'd spec.
Add Nav (£765) to an R and and your R will be worth £150 more than the one without. Lacking Nav, Leather or whatever else you want to throw at it doesn't make it unsellable, you'll get a very modest return for your outlay. Buying an option for the next owner is just chucking it away, don't buy anything you don't want for yourself.
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Of course, if you are buying a car for yourself and don't care about future value and residuals etc, then fair enough.
What's not to care about? If you buy a car and add options, at best you'll get 20% of your money back when you sell. An R without options will retain more of it's % purchase price than one with options.
If you're buying an option mainly with a view to enhance your residuals, chucking away 80% of your spend to get 20% back at trade-in makes absolutely no sense no matter how you look at it. The R is very well equipped as standard, it will not look bereft of features if it doesn't have Nav or whatever else you'd spec.
Add Nav (£765) to an R and and your R will be worth £150 more than the one without. Lacking Nav, Leather or whatever else you want to throw at it doesn't make it unsellable, you'll get a very modest return for your outlay. Buying an option for the next owner is just chucking it away, don't buy anything you don't want for yourself.
I think it makes more of a difference if you are going to be selling privately as the options will make the car stand out from the others that don't have it.
With car play now I would never opt for satnav because no matter how good the factory nav is it is not going to be better than google maps or even apple maps.
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what garage did you buy from and when did they say you would get it roughly?
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what garage did you buy from and when did they say you would get it roughly?
I bought from Gti World in Edinburgh, they said 8-10 weeks for delivery so fingers crossed.
I have went for Car Net App connect and Keyless entry so happy with that options
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I didn't bother with VW Navigation, Leather, Lane Assist with Dynamic lighting and the Carbon Mirror options.
I don't think the VW Nav is a must now that we can use CarPlay :)
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Or put the £300 towards decent GAP Insurance.
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Or put the £300 towards decent GAP Insurance.
Do you want to wait for a replacement car or not have your car stolen in the first place??
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Unfortunately this new method doesn't require access to the OBD port. :cry:
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Unfortunately this new method doesn't require access to the OBD port. :cry:
Bugger :sad:
Technology huh :whistle: :whistle:
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Or put the £300 towards decent GAP Insurance.
Do you want to wait for a replacement car or not have your car stolen in the first place??
Do stolen and recovered cars go on the CAT database? If so I rather have a new one.
Also what if the crooks rag your car to bits, will it still feel the same when you get it back?
I personally would go the new car route :)
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Or put the £300 towards decent GAP Insurance.
Do you want to wait for a replacement car or not have your car stolen in the first place??
Do stolen and recovered cars go on the CAT database? If so I rather have a new one.
Also what if the crooks rag your car to bits, will it still feel the same when you get it back?
I personally would go the new car route :)
Depends if its damaged or not. If its damaged then it will be recoded accordingly
If it's intact and recovered then it won't show on the database. If its stolen, insurance company pays out, and it gets recovered at a later date, it becomes a CAT X
More and more cars are stolen to order these days so they will probably drive it hard for a few miles before delivering it to whoever, which is not much different to anyone else with a performance car 'enjoying' themselves :undecided: :whistle:
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Or put the £300 towards decent GAP Insurance.
Do you want to wait for a replacement car or not have your car stolen in the first place??
I would rather they take the car without breaking into my house where myself and my wife are tucked up in bed in.
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Until car manufacturers wake up, I would take the Keyless option off, makes it much easier to steal the car now.
The only advantage is they don't have to break into your house to get the keys.
Major security risk to keyless cars (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/94918/tests-uncover-major-security-risk-to-keyless-cars)
I posted this is another thread
http://www.obdportector.com/
Or put the £300 towards decent GAP Insurance.
Do you want to wait for a replacement car or not have your car stolen in the first place??
I would rather they take the car without breaking into my house where myself and my wife are tucked up in bed in.
Having to break and enter a home to get car keys rather than doing everything quietly outside with tech and no potential confrontations is going to put a lot of would-be thieves off.