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Title: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: Optimus prime on 29 November 2015, 11:15
Can someone pls tell me what the differences are between the above?  As currently on the secondhand market there is around a 10K difference in price for similar spec cars.  Not too concerned about miles as long as its under 50K.

Looking for advice pls

Thank you
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 November 2015, 11:23
Errr one's a MK6, the other is a MK7. So obviously there's a big difference in chassis, tech, etc.

The MK6 is 280bhp afaik. MK7 is 300.
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: Exonian on 29 November 2015, 11:25
It would be easier to tell you what bits they share in common: the wheel bolts.
There are virtually no other similarities.
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: Optimus prime on 29 November 2015, 11:25
Errr one's a MK6, the other is a MK7. So obviously there's a big difference in chassis, tech, etc.

The MK6 is 280bhp afaik. MK7 is 300.

Thanks I was aware of the mk6 /7 it was more to do with the spec /tech
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: Optimus prime on 29 November 2015, 11:26
It would be easier to tell you what bits they share in common: the wheel bolts.
There are virtually no other similarities.


Great thanks exactly what I was looking for hence the £10K difference in price
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: barrym381 on 29 November 2015, 12:13
you might not see as many of the 6r than 7r though  :smiley:
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: remlapeel on 29 November 2015, 20:06
Completely different. Chassis changed, engine changed, haldex is new. Very little similarities
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 November 2015, 21:00
The MK7 MQB chassis is a very noticeable step up in handling and refinement over the previous (MK5/MK6 platform), and the MK6 had far less standard equipment (tech) than the MK7. For me the MK6 is an ugly Golf incarnation. They took the MK5 and made it look like something Toyota would make - with those oversized light clusters and more "rounding off". The MK7 is a much better car.
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: Optimus prime on 29 November 2015, 21:30
@MH are you glad you changed from the GTD? I am running the dtuk box like you were also winter tyres to assist with grip etc.  Not sure if it's worth the move or not
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: remlapeel on 29 November 2015, 21:54
I can't compare it to a GTD but it's was a worthwhile jump from my MK7 GTI
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 November 2015, 22:14
@MH are you glad you changed from the GTD? I am running the dtuk box like you were also winter tyres to assist with grip etc.  Not sure if it's worth the move or not

Mine's had its problems compared to the GTD and you only get to use that extra performance 5% of the time, but when you do, it makes me glad I changed. The mpg isn't as shocking as I thought it would be. The R gets spanked for motorway mpg, that low gearing takes its toll. Equally though, that low gearing makes the car relatively frugal on 30/40/60 roads. If I was a motorway miler i'd say stick with the GTD, but for mixed driving it has to be the R.

Imagine your GTD without the DTUK box on, then remember what a difference the DTUK box made. Then imagine twice that difference and not a twitch from the tyres no matter how hard you accelerate either from a standstill or in gear. The R is amazing.

As for mpg, i'm getting a steady 32mpg tank average. In the Summer with the GTD that was around 48mpg and in the Winter more like 42mpg. The other day I borrowed the wife's A1 1.6TDI to get to work and it did about 52mpg (that was a solid 60mpg journey a month ago). TDI mpg really suffers in the Winter in a way you won't see on the R, making the mpg gap smaller than i thought it was going to be.

You have to adopt a different way of driving though. When you want to really put your foot down, you need to keep the revs above 4k. A rapid 50-80mph acceleration means dropping from 6th to 3rd. Even though the R has plenty of torque (relatively speaking, for a petrol engine), I always find myself dropping 2 or 3 cogs for a rapid spurt rather than letting the torque work the engine in a higher gear, even if i'm only wanting to increase the speed by 10mph.
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: Poached on 30 November 2015, 13:01
MK6 R was 270 ps and is based on a c.2004 chassis design...
Title: Re: Difference between 2010 & 2014 R?
Post by: mjh_056 on 01 December 2015, 15:03
@MH are you glad you changed from the GTD? I am running the dtuk box like you were also winter tyres to assist with grip etc.  Not sure if it's worth the move or not

Mine's had its problems compared to the GTD and you only get to use that extra performance 5% of the time, but when you do, it makes me glad I changed. The mpg isn't as shocking as I thought it would be. The R gets spanked for motorway mpg, that low gearing takes its toll. Equally though, that low gearing makes the car relatively frugal on 30/40/60 roads. If I was a motorway miler i'd say stick with the GTD, but for mixed driving it has to be the R.

Imagine your GTD without the DTUK box on, then remember what a difference the DTUK box made. Then imagine twice that difference and not a twitch from the tyres no matter how hard you accelerate either from a standstill or in gear. The R is amazing.

As for mpg, i'm getting a steady 32mpg tank average. In the Summer with the GTD that was around 48mpg and in the Winter more like 42mpg. The other day I borrowed the wife's A1 1.6TDI to get to work and it did about 52mpg (that was a solid 60mpg journey a month ago). TDI mpg really suffers in the Winter in a way you won't see on the R, making the mpg gap smaller than i thought it was going to be.

You have to adopt a different way of driving though. When you want to really put your foot down, you need to keep the revs above 4k. A rapid 50-80mph acceleration means dropping from 6th to 3rd. Even though the R has plenty of torque (relatively speaking, for a petrol engine), I always find myself dropping 2 or 3 cogs for a rapid spurt rather than letting the torque work the engine in a higher gear, even if i'm only wanting to increase the speed by 10mph.


Not comparing the GTD to the R in anyway but just a comment to the mid range torque.

Yesterday found me having to navigate away from the M 1 Car Park South Bound and head onto rat runs and had to really boot it to overtake one of those annoyingly fast, yet slow lead cars that we had grouped behind.

And it really is where the GTD is impressive as huge surge of acceleration with just one gear drop from the DSG and bye bye and all very safely given how quickly was around and back into lane.

Likely getting an R next time out for that 5% :evil: but over 2 years now in the GTD and yesterday had a moment that reminded me why still love GTD as much as ever.