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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Wrexham Volkswagen on 12 November 2015, 13:26

Title: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Wrexham Volkswagen on 12 November 2015, 13:26
Seven generations later, which one is your favourite?

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Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: GTDmike on 12 November 2015, 15:06
100% agree after 3 C Class Mercs my GTD is the best ever always change at 2 years NOT THIS ONE its running like a dream great on long journeys very comfortable economy is very good.
LONG LIVE VW :smiley:
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: mjh_056 on 12 November 2015, 15:47
Usually get really itchy feet at 2 years the marker which just gone past but going to happily see out another year and highly likely being moving to an R or maybe a GTI if the Clubsport is available to me.

This is best car the personally driven as my own.

With regards the best GTI then its the MK 1 as still grabs attention whenever see one and the MK 5 which even when see one now still appreciate its lines and particularly the front end.

Obviously the MK 7 with the new chassis and tech does stand apart experience wise.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: KyleB on 12 November 2015, 16:05
Mk7 is my first ever Golf so the Mk7 wins by default!

Always loved the look of the Mk4 R32 though.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Exonian on 12 November 2015, 16:47
Exterior Looks: mk1
Interior Looks: mk4 R32 or mk5 GTI
Engineering integrity: mk2
Driving experience: mk7

Overall favourite? Can't decide.

PS. Things a bit quiet in the office at the moment Messrs Wrexham?  :laugh:
Nice to see you drop by.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: dubber36 on 12 November 2015, 17:08
For me it has to be the Mk2. As a teenager with a driving license in the late 80's, the Golf GTI, along with the Series One RS Turbo was something that many of us wanted so badly. Seemingly affordable despite costing 18 months salary. Thirty odd years later and the next generation are lusting after supercars with 6 figure price tags, not an everyday hot hatch.   
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Booth11 on 12 November 2015, 17:38
Of the one's I've had:

First and overall favourite - my second Mk5 GTI - and my first DSG car
Second -  Mk7 R - but could be elevated to number one position, maybe.... :whistle:
Third - Mk6 GTI - still very fondly remembered.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Paul70 on 12 November 2015, 18:46
I've had two, the first a MK1 Campaign in Helios Blue - a great car and I still lust after one but the though of owning a 30 + year old money trap brings me back to reality pretty quickly.

MK7 non PP is a great car made better with a few mods. Waiting anxiously to hear more on the Clubsport. This is motivated primarily because I missed out on an Edition 30 as I was penniless with a new mortgage and 2 kids when it was launched.

Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Moro on 13 November 2015, 10:19
I've only had two Golfs, this one and a Mk3 VR6.

As it took me 20 years to get my second Golf, you can assume I didn't rate the first one and only kept it for a couple of years.

This one is definitely in my top 3 favourite vehicles I have owned so unusually I think I shall be keeping this one for more than 3 years (unusual) and await the Mk8.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 14 November 2015, 11:19
Mk2 by a mile, then the Mk1 followed by the mk3.

The rest aren't even proper cars  :wink:
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 November 2015, 11:41
Mk2 by a mile, then the Mk1 followed by the mk3.

The rest aren't even proper cars  :wink:

I don't think i'm alone in thinking that the MK3 was an awful rust-bucket of a car. MK2 is the one i'm most fond of, but nostalgia is a funny thing. If VW started offering to build new MK2 GTIs would you have one now next to a MK7 R? VW don't make bullet proof cars like that any more, but neither do anyone else- the price of delicate and intricate technology widespread in modern cars.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 14 November 2015, 13:07
Mk2 by a mile, then the Mk1 followed by the mk3.

The rest aren't even proper cars  :wink:

I don't think i'm alone in thinking that the MK3 was an awful rust-bucket of a car. MK2 is the one i'm most fond of, but nostalgia is a funny thing. If VW started offering to build new MK2 GTIs would you have one now next to a MK7 R? VW don't make bullet proof cars like that any more, but neither do anyone else- the price of delicate and intricate technology widespread in modern cars.

The mk3 was a good car, but corners were cut in the materials used to make it and standards have been poor ever since. Cars these days are not built to last anymore hence why all the modern generations are inferior. The may be comfortable, full of tech and easy to drive but they just aren't proper cars anymore. It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Exonian on 14 November 2015, 14:20
Mk2 by a mile, then the Mk1 followed by the mk3.

The rest aren't even proper cars  :wink:

I don't think i'm alone in thinking that the MK3 was an awful rust-bucket of a car. MK2 is the one i'm most fond of, but nostalgia is a funny thing. If VW started offering to build new MK2 GTIs would you have one now next to a MK7 R? VW don't make bullet proof cars like that any more, but neither do anyone else- the price of delicate and intricate technology widespread in modern cars.

The mk3 was a good car, but corners were cut in the materials used to make it and standards have been poor ever since. Cars these days are not built to last anymore hence why all the modern generations are inferior. The may be comfortable, full of tech and easy to drive but they just aren't proper cars anymore. It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.
When any of the cars were current models there was lots of "disgruntled" comments. I've been around GTI's for nearly 30 years.
The mk3 wasn't just a few corners cut it was a pile of (ugly) poop, VW went on a policy of 'global resourcing' at the time which meant they bought cheap components to keep manufacturing costs down. I owned two and still have a mk3 generation car (so in effect 3). The only good step up on the mk3 was after a couple years when they introduced the Simos injection which got rid of the horrible heavy throttle response.
I've had two mk1 generation cars both were fastidiously maintained and both were pretty unreliable, the first a W reg was a rust bucket - and they weren't that old when I owned them, and thankfully neither was I at the time so I was still fit enough to walk to work at 5am when they wouldn't start!!! Grrrrr.
I owned at least four mk2's and although they were solidly built they weren't without their problems and the later cars weren't without cost cutting either. Contrary to the advert with the squeaky earring - they used to rattle and squeak too, I was heavily involved with GTI tuning in those days and have been in literally dozens of mk2 cars from mint standard to heavily modified so I don't wear rose tinted specs.
I'm not saying the mk4 and onwards were anything special build wise as they're not, but like all cars since the 70's they're just disposable objects and the driving dynamics of a standard mk7 GTI is simply the stuff dreams were made of when I learnt to drive in the mid 80's.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 14 November 2015, 14:21
It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.

Don't speak for me. I'm not unhappy or disgruntled with my Mk7 GTI. To the contrary, it's the best damn car I've ever owned. Fact!
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Exonian on 14 November 2015, 14:28
It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.

Don't speak for me. I'm not unhappy or disgruntled with my Mk7 GTI. To the contrary, it's the best damn car I've ever owned. Fact!

People see what they want to see.
I had one mk4 GTI that was flawless.
I had one Leon Cupra (mk4 chassis etc) that didn't skip a beat.
I had a mk5 TDI that had one slight hiccup that was when a techie didn't tighten a turbo hose properly (and the engine was tuned so therefore the turbo hose had its work cut out).
I had a mk5 GTI that worked just fine and dandy the whole time I had it.
I had two mk6 GTI's that both ran flawlessly and one of which ran through a horrendously wet winter commuting 100 miles, seven days a week, on top of normal family duties.
I had a mk7 GTI that ran 20 months without so much as a single hitch other than battery drain from boot light left on when I didn't use the car for two weeks.
And now a mk7R which, up until now has been perfect. Ok the engine sounds like there's a school bell ringing in it at idle but I think they all do that?
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: matchboy on 16 November 2015, 12:52
It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.

I've had a mk 7 GTI and R, I was more than happy with both cars - in fact, they were both outstanding motors.  Don't mistake people discussing their cars on a forum for being disgruntled.  I have nothing but praise for the mk 7 Golfs I've owned, as have many on this forum, so I'm not sure where you've got this opinion from?
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 November 2015, 15:16
It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.

I've had a mk 7 GTI and R, I was more than happy with both cars - in fact, they were both outstanding motors.  Don't mistake people discussing their cars on a forum for being disgruntled.  I have nothing but praise for the mk 7 Golfs I've owned, as have many on this forum, so I'm not sure where you've got this opinion from?

I see where he's coming from tbh. Forums in general (whether it be about cars or gadgets or whatever) tend to draw more negative posts than positive - i.e. the casual browser with a problem with his car will search for "Golf GTI forum" and post his woes on it hoping for some help... and once his issue is solved he might never post on here again!

It's the same on review sites such as TripAdvisor. You're more inclined to post about a negative experience than a positive one.





Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 November 2015, 15:17

It's not a secret that the mk7 section of this forum is predominantly made up of disgruntled motorists who aren't happy with the product. Speaks for itself.

I've had a mk 7 GTI and R, I was more than happy with both cars - in fact, they were both outstanding motors.  Don't mistake people discussing their cars on a forum for being disgruntled.  I have nothing but praise for the mk 7 Golfs I've owned, as have many on this forum, so I'm not sure where you've got this opinion from?

I see where he's coming from tbh. Forums in general (whether it be about cars or gadgets or whatever) tend to draw more negative posts than positive - i.e. the casual browser with a problem with his car will search for "Golf GTI forum" and post his woes on it hoping for some help... and once his issue is solved he might never post on here again!

It's the same on review sites such as TripAdvisor. You're more inclined to post about a negative experience than a positive one, but it's not really reflective of the reality - there are loads of happy GTI / R drivers out there who never post on forums  :wink:
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Simeon on 17 November 2015, 13:22

I had two mk6 GTI's that both ran flawlessly and one of which ran through a horrendously wet winter commuting 100 miles..


Are you suggesting you're pleased with your Mk6 because it didn't break down when it rained? :laugh: I'm pretty sure most people's golfs (and the rest) survived, I was probably still driving my mk2 G60, which didn't let me down in the 2 years I drove it daily.

I love the Mk2's, but they aren't great for long commutes simply because they aren't as comfortable as modern stuff. We have a Mk3 Tdi at the moment too and that is actually very good, particularly as it is one of the few that hasn't rotted away. Might get a newer golf one day, but then again probably not as the Skoda range does much the same job for a lower price.
Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Exonian on 17 November 2015, 15:35

I had two mk6 GTI's that both ran flawlessly and one of which ran through a horrendously wet winter commuting 100 miles..


Are you suggesting you're pleased with your Mk6 because it didn't break down when it rained? :laugh: I'm pretty sure most people's golfs (and the rest) survived, I was probably still driving my mk2 G60, which didn't let me down in the 2 years I drove it daily.

I love the Mk2's, but they aren't great for long commutes simply because they aren't as comfortable as modern stuff. We have a Mk3 Tdi at the moment too and that is actually very good, particularly as it is one of the few that hasn't rotted away. Might get a newer golf one day, but then again probably not as the Skoda range does much the same job for a lower price.

Yes! I was amazed a bit of drizzle didn't bring an electronics packed modern car to a complete standstill in the outside lane of a dual carriageway as I've been reading forums far too long, so therefore I'm convinced my cars are on borrowed time 24/7.

This was more than a bit of rain, this was late 2012 when it did nothing but bucket down for weeks/months on end in my part of the world. The A38 and M5 through Devon was like an island with nothing but standing water either side all winter. Having an older GTI in my possession too the difference in driving the two was night and day, one feeling like it was going to aquaplane off the road every few minutes and the other rock solid, warm, comfortable and...

Still, the older one was more fun/challenging!

And yes, if you're not neurotic about badges the Skoda range is pretty darned good. If it wasn't so long I'd love an Octavia vRS and I also have a massive soft spot for the sportier SEATs. I also had a Fabia vRS for a little while around 2006ish which I regretted selling.

Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: Snoopy on 21 November 2015, 11:53
Still want a mk2 small bumber 16v
Give me mechanical over electronics anyday.
So its not as fast, refined, or as quick  round corners but so what its more fun at sane speeds.
My mk1 GTI has been the most reliable car ive ever owned. Never let me down in 26 years. Why because its simple and components way over speced engineered.
My Mk5 and mk6 have been interior  rattling, oil leaking things with design issues.
Odd but my leon which is the same age as those two combined has been far more robust maybe because its the generation before and had less account inputs, also its one of the last of that shape by then most the bugs have been worked out.
I keep thinking of a mk7 R or clubsport  but keep reading forums and cannot bring myself to do it after reading issues.
I also seem to be fixing more and more family VWs than everything  else combined!
I haveaa polo sitting on the drive waiting for repair as its electronics keep acting up and going into limp home mode. Electronic throttles, EGR valves who really needs them really! Also has an intake leak somewere, iirc they have a plastic manifold!

Title: Re: “Often copied, never equalled; there has only ever been one Golf GTI”
Post by: LRWmotorsport on 22 November 2015, 08:21
MK2.