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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: devilscaff on 15 October 2015, 17:28
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Probably asked a few times, sorry in advance. Thinking of going over to diesel and figured this was the best option. Always had gti's so does this mean turning my cheek on my beloved gti. Only doing it as gonna be starting a new job soon and will be doing lots more miles and the 35 ain't great on squirt.
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GTD is a fab car - just not quite certain what your question is!
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Oops sorry what I meant was, will I still feel like I'm driving a gti ish.
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Yes very much so. Taking out the obvious drive differences between diesel and petrol the cars are pretty much identical.
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Especially if you fit a DTUK box to it.
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You'll loose a bit of the 0-60 time, which actually is more likely 0-20, once you are out of second gear the massive mid range power you will probably find exceeds what you are used to with the GTI...
If you get a DSG box you probably won't even notice how low a derv engine revs.
Then, for the rest of the time when you aren't driving like you stole it, sit back and enjoy an easy drive with bags of power for sensible road manoeuvres and 50mpg.
As for toys and spec, that's up to you, the basic car is pretty well equipped vs the old ED35's.
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I think the only thing you'll miss out on is the noise of the petrol. Must admit I love the noise of the GTI and it revs out to the redline very sweetly indeed. I also love the little 'parp' the DSG makes on upshifts. This reason alone stopped me buying a GTD and to be quite honest, I'm glad I did.
I'm averaging 38mpg with mixed driving, and 42mpg on long motorway runs. I do 18-20k per year in my GTI and I don't think it's heavy on fuel at all given the performance on offer.
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Great food for thought, I generally don't get to drive too fast anyway with the amount of traffic. Is 50 mpg a realistic measure with mixed driving.
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Spec the Sport & Sound pack - very good - turns heads & people ask what have you got?
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How many is "lots more miles"?
The mk7 GTI is a different beast to the 35 and is very good on the go juice, the turbo spools up MUCH quicker than a 35's turbo and it's a lovely mile muncher.
If it's lots of boring motorway miles then obviously a DSG GTD won't leave you feeling short changed, it's a pretty ballistic beast with that torque in S mode.
I'd still rather have a manual personally even if for the lovely gear knob alone.
The S&S pack, as above, will make the car seem more GTI than TDI
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I still miss my old Mk5 GTI on some days, but for doing 25k miles a year the GTD does make a lot of sense financially.
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You might want to wait and see what comes out of the VW diesel emissions scandal first. Will used values be affected, or will the software fix result in lower performance etc etc.
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The Mk.7 GTD does not need a 'fix' as its not affected by the rogue software...
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VW (and other) diesels still may take a hit though.
It's all down to the tax breaks and that may change soon...
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VW (and other) diesels still may take a hit though.
It's all down to the tax breaks and that may change soon...
True. The tide is slowly turning against diesel as governments and local councils are waking up to the public health disaster resulting from diesel smog. Some local councils are already charging residents with diesel cars an annual pollution tax.
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Going to test drive Gtd Tommorow. What if the price does fall a little with the emmision scandle, the longer I wait the more my current car will depreciate.Cars are a pain, but I love em. If I didn't love gti's so much I'd would have been mortgage free years ago. 😡
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So, what did we think of the GTD after a test drive?
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The car was Dsg. I have never really drove many of these. Thought it was ok, but would of preferred manuel. That aside it drove much like gti's.little more engine noise than I expected. But once there,there was a blue R sitting next to it, so now I'm trying to convince the other half that the R might push 35-40 mpg. Truth is I don't want a diesel, I love petrol turbos just know I might have to sacrifice a lot to get the R.
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I went from GTI to GTD and am now going to an R. If truth be told I've just never really gelled with the diesel engine. The power delivery isn't totally dissimilar to a turbocharged petrol engine, but it's a lot coarser and really does lack refinement in comparison. I've just never found it a pleasurable car to drive quickly, even though it handles very well indeed. I'd personally stick with the Ed35 or man maths yourself into an R.
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Great food for thought, I generally don't get to drive too fast anyway with the amount of traffic. Is 50 mpg a realistic measure with mixed driving.
Hmmm not really more like 45 depending on the mixed driving bit, however if you keep within the speed limits on the motorway it will pull it round to nearer 50. If you want to give it a punch then fit a DTUK box, no effect on MPG but much better grunt & bhp nearer 240 :wink:
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The car was Dsg. I have never really drove many of these. Thought it was ok, but would of preferred manuel. That aside it drove much like gti's.little more engine noise than I expected. But once there,there was a blue R sitting next to it, so now I'm trying to convince the other half that the R might push 35-40 mpg. Truth is I don't want a diesel, I love petrol turbos just know I might have to sacrifice a lot to get the R.
Looks like a bit of a dilemma.
The GTD is a great mile muncher. DSG with ACC would take the strain out of long commutes but the gearbox masks any engine characteristics such as the torque thump. On the flip side the DSG would keep the engine within the narrow power band.
Personally, I too would save the £1400 and would rather enjoy my motoring a bit more, however I really want to like DSG - I just don't!
The R is a great car. But 40mpg just isn't going to happen unless you travel very slowly everywhere with absolutely no traffic.
The R is quite good on fuel for a 300bhp 4wd medium hatchback but it's no fuel miser in town traffic. I find it ok on a run but not great - better than an ED35 possibly! If you're doing a highish mileage in an R you want to be making the most of your fuel money by having a lot of fun or have your boss paying your fuel bills.
Which leaves the humble GTI. Still the best all rounder. You would get nearly 40 MPG if you're careful, it has nearly as much torque as the R in real terms (torque to weight about the same I'd guess) and runs on basic unleaded. Has a broader power band than the GTD and the turbo spools from very low revs. Try one if you haven't already.