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Title: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 12 August 2015, 12:29
Drive the Deal discounts:
VW Golf 2.0 TSi R 5dr DSG  £28,657  Save 15.5%
VW Golf 2.0 TSi GTi 5dr [Nav]*  £23,332  Save 17.5%
VW Golf 1.4 TSi 125 Match 5dr*  £16,448  Save 22.25%
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: GeordieSPG on 12 August 2015, 12:50
My mileage means I could justify the R now...but it sticks in my wallet when I recall the great lease deals!
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Websta24 on 12 August 2015, 12:52
A 15% discount on an R is pointless if you cant actually take delivery!

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2015, 13:10
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: CraigW on 12 August 2015, 13:17
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.

Surely though that would be misadvertising Mark. If i went through DTD i would be fully expecting the discount quoted.

Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 12 August 2015, 13:54
We bought our two previous BMW F30 330d M Sports in 2012 through DtD and obtained the exact 25.5% discount they advertised on each one.

DtD don't advertise their discounts for the fun of it!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Watts on 12 August 2015, 15:22
Hi all - newish person here! I tried dtd a couple of weeks ago (not the above offers though) and they phoned me within 10 minutes of my completing the form online with a dealer lined up (not too fay away either) offering the price quoted online. I was very impressed with the service and would've gone through with the deal other than my local dealer offering me a good price on an ex-demo. I would definitely try them again when/if I get bored with my GTi.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: mavman on 12 August 2015, 15:37
Hi,

I'm a new user and have been lurking here while looking for a new car for the missus.

We got 2k dealer deposit (even though the offer doesn't state factory builds) and 3k off a new car at the weekend.

Golf 5 Door GTI Performance Pack Nav with metallic paint (keyless and winter Packs now included)

Delivery apparently 13 weeks although reading other threads I doubt this.

Happy with the deal though and no rush.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Booth11 on 12 August 2015, 16:15
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.

Surely though that would be misadvertising Mark. If i went through DTD i would be fully expecting the discount quoted.

Agreed.  I had no issue getting the 12.5% discount DTD quoted for my R.  Once you accept the online quote and instigate contact with the broker/dealership, that is the discount you receive.  I would imagine, as these discounts are reviewed and recalculated on a regular basis, that the discount is already agreed with the supplying dealership in advance of the rate going live on the broker website.

Maybe somebody needs to order an R to test these discounts out.  :whistle:

I agree with point about contributions skewing the discount percentage. 
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: matchboy on 12 August 2015, 20:00
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.

Surely though that would be misadvertising Mark. If i went through DTD i would be fully expecting the discount quoted.

It would indeed.  I'm just saying what I've been told, not what's fact or not fact. And that there is no way anyone will get 15% off an R through a broker.  I don't buy it I'm afraid!  Maybe on lesser models, but not on an R.  Just like you may well get 25.5% off a 330d because they are ten a penny, but you'll struggle to get more than 5% off an M3.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Beddie on 12 August 2015, 20:13
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.

Surely though that would be misadvertising Mark. If i went through DTD i would be fully expecting the discount quoted.

It would indeed.  I'm just saying what I've been told, not what's fact or not fact. And that there is no way anyone will get 15% off an R through a broker.  I don't buy it I'm afraid!  Maybe on lesser models, but not on an R.  Just like you may well get 25.5% off a 330d because they are ten a penny, but you'll struggle to get more than 5% off an M3.

I'd have to disagree, recently had a discount of 17% via Orangewheels and confirmed by their preferred dealer which luckily happens to be my local dealer anyway!
Completely fuss free so far, Orangewheels rang almost instantly to confirm spec and price and to get permission to pass my details onto the dealer, they then rang later that day to confirm spec and price again and asked when I'd like to order  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: carl1 on 12 August 2015, 20:22
Has the price of the R gone up, they offered me a manual 5 door with met paint last year for £27200 and i had the phone call with a dealer ready to accept my deposit but i backed out. Now same car is £27922, so if it is 15% off then you will easily get it.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: caprigreen on 12 August 2015, 20:24
If DTD quote 15% of the R then that's what you will get. The stronger pound againt the euro will have helped
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 12 August 2015, 20:30
Yep, 15.5% discount available on a VW Golf 2.0 TSi R 5dr DSG . Price £28,657. It also includes 6 months RFL. But does that work out as 15.5%?
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: p3asa on 12 August 2015, 23:15
You will get the advised rate not sure why your doubting them matchboy.

Someone telling you otherwise has been telling you duff information.

You can still get the R on lease for under £250 a month.

Do you require salt and vinegar?  :laugh:

(http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Hat-Eating-350x350.jpg)

Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: matchboy on 13 August 2015, 11:03
You will get the advised rate not sure why your doubting them matchboy.

Someone telling you otherwise has been telling you duff information.

You can still get the R on lease for under £250 a month.

Do you require salt and vinegar?  :laugh:

(http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Hat-Eating-350x350.jpg)

 :grin: I stand corrected if you guys know otherwise!  Clearly I'm not looking in the right places  :grin:

I'm off to finish my hat.... :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: jv on 13 August 2015, 11:35
^ haha :grin:

Ashford VW are quoting 18.1% off a 3dr manual GTI PP/Nav.

For those with functioning limbs obviously.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Mark V GTD on 13 August 2015, 21:18
Matchboy - if DtD say that the discount then I can assure you from personal experience you will get it.

And thats a genuine rate too ass the R dopes not have any external deposit contribution going on.

I got 12% off my GTD through them 18 months ago and what I pad was exactly what they said i would to the penny.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Bungleaio on 13 August 2015, 21:32
I managed just over 15% off through my local dealer after I showed them a quote from Car wow for my fully optioned GTI.

Maybe I could have pushed them for a bit more but I was happy at that level.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 13 August 2015, 21:40
You will get the advised rate not sure why your doubting them matchboy.

Someone telling you otherwise has been telling you duff information.

You can still get the R on lease for under £250 a month.

Do you require salt and vinegar?  :laugh:

(http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Hat-Eating-350x350.jpg)

Brilliant! Pictorially apt!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 August 2015, 21:52

You can still get the R on lease for under £250 a month.


Depends on what you constitute a "monthly" cost. For me, having an R which costs you £250 a month after a whopping initial rental is a false figure. Total duration cost over number of months gives a fair comparison.

The R could've been had for as little as £268pm (manual, TR, no extras) all in once upon a time. A while back I saw a "£10pm" deal on a C1, but you had to put £1200 down for a 1 year term, making a mockery of the headlining monthly cost.

Right now with CVL, a 3 door manual R is £355 inc VAT per month over 24 months + £2315 down/fees.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 13 August 2015, 22:17
Those were the days my friend and they did end and probably never to be repeated again. :cry:

When I leased, the basic lease cost of a 5 door Red R manual was £172+VAT pm, 6+23, 5k miles from the brokers. I went to a VW Dealer's Fleet Dept, got the same deal as a business, plus a dealer contribution of £699 inc VAT (odd figure) to reduce the deposit. I then added DSG which was £23+VAT pm plus a few extras, one of them (a biggish one) was free, and secured a 3 year deal, 5k miles, 6p+VAT excess mileage. Crazy or what? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: p3asa on 13 August 2015, 22:32

You can still get the R on lease for under £250 a month.


Depends on what you constitute a "monthly" cost. For me, having an R which costs you £250 a month after a whopping initial rental is a false figure. Total duration cost over number of months gives a fair comparison.

The R could've been had for as little as £268pm (manual, TR, no extras) all in once upon a time. A while back I saw a "£10pm" deal on a C1, but you had to put £1200 down for a 1 year term, making a mockery of the headlining monthly cost.

Right now with CVL, a 3 door manual R is £355 inc VAT per month over 24 months + £2315 down/fees.


I make the CVL 5 door R £244 a month inc Vat over 24 months with £2000 plus VAT deposit.

Not the cheap lease deals as before but the same car on the VW www on PCP is £533 a month over 24 months with £3147 deposit both at 5k a year.  I don't even have to work out what is the cheapest by far. I reckon less than half price.

Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 August 2015, 06:18

You can still get the R on lease for under £250 a month.


Depends on what you constitute a "monthly" cost. For me, having an R which costs you £250 a month after a whopping initial rental is a false figure. Total duration cost over number of months gives a fair comparison.

The R could've been had for as little as £268pm (manual, TR, no extras) all in once upon a time. A while back I saw a "£10pm" deal on a C1, but you had to put £1200 down for a 1 year term, making a mockery of the headlining monthly cost.

Right now with CVL, a 3 door manual R is £355 inc VAT per month over 24 months + £2315 down/fees.


I make the CVL 5 door R £244 a month inc Vat over 24 months with £2000 plus VAT deposit.

Not the cheap lease deals as before but the same car on the VW www on PCP is £533 a month over 24 months with £3147 deposit both at 5k a year.  I don't even have to work out what is the cheapest by far. I reckon less than half price.

Hadn't seen that one, it's a special offer on the 5 door, £89 a month cheaper than the other R options, ends up being a "true" £341 a month spreading the total cost, go DSG (as many do) and the cost shoots up. I don't see 5k miles as reasonable - not many doing that. Add £30 a month to pay for the excess mileage to get you to 10k miles PA, and it's a true £371pm.

True 5dr DSG price with CVL is £471 a month - bargain basement leases are long gone, although if you keep away from the options it can still be a little cheaper than PCP over 24months (PCP works better on 36 months than it does on 24 months).
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: p3asa on 14 August 2015, 06:56
I wasn't saying it was particularly cheap but £8,171 for a lease compared to VW's PCP £15,107 its a bargain.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Mark V GTD on 15 August 2015, 09:00
I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now
matchboy - you don't need to eat your hat after all!

The actual figures quoted by the OP are correct but the percentages are wrong.... the R (5-door) DSG is actually 12.7% off. I suspect these figures came from the R forum where the OP's mathematics was revealed as being decidedly inaccurate!

Check for yourself - the list is GBP32,809 for that model.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: vidman2 on 15 August 2015, 10:22
I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now
matchboy - you don't need to eat your hat after all!

The actual figures quoted by the OP are correct but the percentages are wrong.... the R (5-door) DSG is actually 12.7% off. I suspect these figures came from the R forum where the OP's mathematics was revealed as being decidedly inaccurate!

Check for yourself - the list is GBP32,809 for that model.

I have just paid a deposit on my R order - high spec and received a 15.6% discount from the broker I chose, car delivered to my door and paid for after I inspect it.  DTD offer £150 less but delivery/collection not so convenient and only 6 months road tax so £150 less becomes £75 less.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 15 August 2015, 11:05
I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now
matchboy - you don't need to eat your hat after all!

The actual figures quoted by the OP are correct but the percentages are wrong.... the R (5-door) DSG is actually 12.7% off. I suspect these figures came from the R forum where the OP's mathematics was revealed as being decidedly inaccurate!

Check for yourself - the list is GBP32,809 for that model.

That is a bit of a naf thing to say by unfairly accusing me of miscalculations. I posted the exact figures from DtD. Not my calculations. So look before you leap or eat your hat and tongue. :laugh:

Go to the vwroc link below and click on the prices in my original post. It is what DtD have posted.
http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/10197-golf-r-discount/

Have you now eaten your hat and tongue and digested them?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: p3asa on 15 August 2015, 11:08

The actual figures quoted by the OP are correct but the percentages are wrong.... the R (5-door) DSG is actually 12.7% off. I suspect these figures came from the R forum where the OP's mathematics was revealed as being decidedly inaccurate!



To be fair, those prices were also sent to me by a DTD email.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 15 August 2015, 11:11

The actual figures quoted by the OP are correct but the percentages are wrong.... the R (5-door) DSG is actually 12.7% off. I suspect these figures came from the R forum where the OP's mathematics was revealed as being decidedly inaccurate!
To be fair, those prices were also sent to me by a DTD email.

Exactly. I only quoted what I obtained in the email. Some of the posters on here are unnecessarily belligerent. Perhaps they have paid over the odds for their shopping trolleys! They need to swallow some chill pills after they have swallowed their hats and their tongues.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: RobS23GTI on 15 August 2015, 17:05
I specced up a vanilla R with prets the other day and with the DTD discount and minimal other deposit, the monthlies were coming out at £400+ on the VW configurator. Also it didn't show any difference for selecting 5k miles pa over 10k miles pa, which it definitely used to.
The GFV is significantly lower now than 1yr ago.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 August 2015, 18:12
I specced up a vanilla R with prets the other day and with the DTD discount and minimal other deposit, the monthlies were coming out at £400+ on the VW configurator. Also it didn't show any difference for selecting 5k miles pa over 10k miles pa, which it definitely used to.
The GFV is significantly lower now than 1yr ago.

With the £18k+ GFVs that were in place until last November's price rises, your choice of R bought that way would've come in at just over £300pm.

Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: RobS23GTI on 17 August 2015, 08:13
Speaking to a dealer yesterday, you can't select less than 10k miles pa now on PCP on an R order - another way of squeezing the value.
So the VW configurator wasn't wrong.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: Sweetmeister on 19 August 2015, 17:45
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.

Surely though that would be misadvertising Mark. If i went through DTD i would be fully expecting the discount quoted.

It would indeed.  I'm just saying what I've been told, not what's fact or not fact. And that there is no way anyone will get 15% off an R through a broker.  I don't buy it I'm afraid!  Maybe on lesser models, but not on an R.  Just like you may well get 25.5% off a 330d because they are ten a penny, but you'll struggle to get more than 5% off an M3.

12% is the norm on a new M3 with some dealers now offering 15%!  So if you can only get 5% then you've been ripped off I'm afraid!
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: am1w on 19 August 2015, 19:45
I have a few interesting chats with dealers over the last week (not VW) - and been chucking a few broker prices around at them.  These discounts that are being used by brokers aren't allways what they seem.  They may well include any dealer contributions already being offered, so that changes the discount percentage.  Additionally, the broker has to actually find a dealer that will agree to that discount - they may have had one (hence they can advertise that figure) but that doesn't mean you're going to get it.

I'd eat my own hat if you could get 15% of an R right now - given the fact that there is a 7 month odd wait to get them built, and clearly still a desirable car, why would dealers give that kind of discount knowing full well the next person that walks into a showroom may be very happy with 8%?  I don't buy it.

Broker prices are a very good starting point for haggling with a dealer, but 15% off an R - no chance.

Surely though that would be misadvertising Mark. If i went through DTD i would be fully expecting the discount quoted.

It would indeed.  I'm just saying what I've been told, not what's fact or not fact. And that there is no way anyone will get 15% off an R through a broker.  I don't buy it I'm afraid!  Maybe on lesser models, but not on an R.  Just like you may well get 25.5% off a 330d because they are ten a penny, but you'll struggle to get more than 5% off an M3.

12% is the norm on a new M3 with some dealers now offering 15%!  So if you can only get 5% then you've been ripped off I'm afraid!

Cousin managed 18% discount on an M3.
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2015, 14:19
Consider myself suitably flamed chaps  :laugh: *gets coat*
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: CraigW on 22 August 2015, 14:25
Consider myself suitably flamed chaps  :laugh: *gets coat*

Sorry Mark, that was my fault  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: matchboy on 22 August 2015, 14:28
Consider myself suitably flamed chaps  :laugh: *gets coat*

Sorry Mark, that was my fault  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:  :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, it was my own fault for opening my big mouth  :grin: Can't be right all time, being wrong once out of 100 times isn't a bad stat  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf GTI & R discounts
Post by: CraigW on 22 August 2015, 15:21
Consider myself suitably flamed chaps  :laugh: *gets coat*

Sorry Mark, that was my fault  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:  :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, it was my own fault for opening my big mouth  :grin: Can't be right all time, being wrong once out of 100 times isn't a bad stat  :laugh:

 :grin: :grin: :grin: