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Title: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 08 August 2015, 12:11
Hi guys

as you are all a very open minded and friendly bunch, just wanted to say I ordered my 330d this morning, so you don't have to listen to me droning on about test drives forever more !!

SO I ordered my 330d today, got a really good deal and despite the offer of a pre LCI model for £10k off list, I opted for the facelift as I still got a really good deal and the dealer has been great to deal with.

Spec -

330d Auto, Rear wheel drive, not x drive
Estoril blue with Saddle leather

M sport + Pack
Professional Nav
Head up display - got a demo, absolutely love it and will use it all the time.
Heated seats
Split fold rear seats

That's all I needed really as the M sport + gives you lots of goodies.  List price came in at £42,384.

Discounted to £36,365, less further deposit contribution of £1500

Net price £34,865.

I could have had a good spec pre LCI stock car for £32k, but for  bit extra I got exactly what I wanted and am in no hurry.  It should be delivered late September, early October latest and they gave me a guaranteed px for my A3 diesel in case I don't sell privately.

Should be something like this

(http://i61.tinypic.com/91jwxw.jpg)

Colour scheme - Estoril and newly available on M sport the saddle (tan) leather

(http://i58.tinypic.com/1dzknc.jpg)

Thanks for the great debate guys, still love the Golf's  :wink:   just fancied something a bit more grown up and spacious this time round..
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: CraigW on 08 August 2015, 12:16
Congrats Andy!! The Estoril blue with the tan will be awesome. Want to see plenty of pics when it arrives
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 08 August 2015, 12:18
thanks Craig.  Had that tan leather on a couple of red Alfas and love it, it was the clincher to order a facelift car because almost every Estoril blue 3 series has black leather or occosionally oyster

I wish Audi would take note, its one thing that depresses me about some VAG products, all 50 shades of grey..

This is certainly the first 3 series my dealer has order in this combination but the sale girl reckoned it would look awesome.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 12:25
Congratulations on finally making a decision and sealing the deal Drisser  :rolleyes: :laugh:  :cool:

That is a beautiful colour combination - browns and blues are absolutely made for each other (IMO speaking as a former artist - painter).

It's been both entertaining and informative sharing your car buying journey - thanks for taking us along on the ride  :laugh:

Enjoy life on the Bimmer forums, but don't be a stranger, we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 08 August 2015, 12:34
Congratulations!
You have purchased a brilliant car. It is in a different league to the buzz box hot hatches. I love our F30 to bits. Sporty when you want, refined all the time. The only thing you should have specced is Adaptive Suspension. Really makes the car IMO.
Enjoy your purchase.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Rhyso on 08 August 2015, 13:43
we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!

We do have SOME standards though  :tongue: :whistle:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Restlessnative on 08 August 2015, 13:58
Very nice.The auto is the best in the business.Now linked to the sat nav,even when it's not switched on.It is tech at it's very best.
I'd enquired a few months back about the new 3 series,before I ordered my GTD.What came through the post this morning?.Letter and info telling me now available to order.
No.....must......resist....BW35 GTD ordered.....must not lose £200 deposit....... :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 14:01
we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!

We do have SOME standards though  :tongue: :whistle:

What about this one? It's the new Eco Juke that gives 12 miles to the straw bale:-

(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Hs0V7mmlcio/Tnkj7Fyc34I/AAAAAAABiBg/vloWZv9TQJE/s720/z28.jpg)
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 14:02
we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!

We do have SOME standards though  :tongue: :whistle:

 :grin:

We do?   :huh:  :tongue:

It's German.....too tenuous a link?   :laugh:

Ok, he can post a pic of his new BMW when he gets it, then,

.......he can bugger off!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 14:04
we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!

We do have SOME standards though  :tongue: :whistle:

What about this one? It's the new Eco Juke that gives 12 miles to the straw bale:-

(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Hs0V7mmlcio/Tnkj7Fyc34I/AAAAAAABiBg/vloWZv9TQJE/s720/z28.jpg)


Ahhh, you've just found my next car!   As if I needed any more reason to cancel my R  :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 14:05
we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!

We do have SOME standards though  :tongue: :whistle:

 :grin:

We do?   :huh:  :tongue:

It's German.....too tenuous a link?   :laugh:

Ok, he can post a pic of his new BMW when he gets it, then,

.......he can bugger off!

Drisser could probably order 4 BMWs consecutively (ordering the next after the last one arrives) and still have all 4 before you get your Pret shod R.  :whistle:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 14:06
we love a pic or two, who cares what the car is!

We do have SOME standards though  :tongue: :whistle:

 :grin:

We do?   :huh:  :tongue:

It's German.....too tenuous a link?   :laugh:

Ok, he can post a pic of his new BMW when he gets it, then,

.......he can bugger off!

Drisser could probably order 4 BMWs consecutively (ordering the next after the last one arrives) and still have all 4 before you get your Pret shod R.  :whistle:

I hate you! 

:tongue:  :grin:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 14:10
^^

PS: I remember a while back someone else on here being tad p!ssed off about waiting for an R with Prets.  Who was that??  :tongue:  :laugh:

People have short memories  :whistle:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 14:14
^^

PS: I remember a while back someone else on here being tad p!ssed off about waiting for an R with Prets.  Who was that??  :tongue:  :laugh:

People have short memories  :whistle:

Want to buy mine and i'll go order a 335 X-drive?  :grin:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 14:29
^^

PS: I remember a while back someone else on here being tad p!ssed off about waiting for an R with Prets.  Who was that??  :tongue:  :laugh:

People have short memories  :whistle:

Want to buy mine and i'll go order a 335 X-drive?  :grin:

I'll pass thanks!  Yours is a sh!te manual  :kiss:

....with dodgy ACC  :whistle:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 08 August 2015, 14:42
I knew I shouldn't have started this post !  especially given the short 6-8 week lead time for my individually specced car !!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 14:48

I'll pass thanks!  Yours is a sh!te manual  :kiss:

....with dodgy ACC  :whistle:

Manual for people who like driving rather than pointing and shooting..... :tongue:

*hears the metallic creak of another can of worms opening*
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 15:18

I'll pass thanks!  Yours is a sh!te manual  :kiss:

....with dodgy ACC  :whistle:

Manual for people who like driving rather than pointing and shooting..... :tongue:

*hears the metallic creak of another can of worms opening*

Pointing and shooting, isn't that what all blokes excel at  :whistle: :tongue:

I would argue all day with you about DSG-manual but I'm in a dark gloom over my R and can't be arsed!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 15:22
I knew I shouldn't have started this post !  especially given the short 6-8 week lead time for my individually specced car !!  :rolleyes:

Yes Drisser, thank you very much! :angry:  (I'm pleased for you really mate)

Asker, (am1w) might be along in a while to escort you to Bimmerpost....  and welcome you with open arms when you get there.  :laugh:  (though I suspect you've already visited).
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 17:13

Pointing and shooting, isn't that what all blokes excel at  :whistle: :tongue:

That's why we put the toilet seat up. When we do that we are being considerate so as not to splash the seat.  :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 17:35

Pointing and shooting, isn't that what all blokes excel at  :whistle: :tongue:

That's why we put the toilet seat up. When we do that we are being considerate so as not to splash the seat.  :laugh:

That's so thoughtful.  But you still manage to get it on the floor.  Maybe you need to practice your aim or get a much bigger toilet bowl  :wink:  :grin:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 08 August 2015, 19:08
^^
PS: I remember a while back someone else on here being tad p!ssed off about waiting for an R with Prets.  Who was that??  :tongue:  :laugh:
People have short memories  :whistle:
Want to buy mine and i'll go order a 335 X-drive? :grin:
I'll pass thanks!  Yours is a sh!te manual  :kiss:
....with dodgy ACC  :whistle:

Yes, Matt has a clunky manual (with clutch slip by now!), dodgy ACC, Prets with Bridgestones and no DCC so a ride as hard as a corpse on Viagra, but most of all a really dodgy colour: Lapiz which reminds me of Washable Blue Quink Ink. :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 19:22
No clutch slip yet - but I imagine the clutch on my courtesy Up! only has days or weeks left, it was stinking when going up any kind of incline. Never had a dodgy clutch yet on 7 previous VWs, it would be really disappointing to have it happen to this one.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 20:02
^^
PS: I remember a while back someone else on here being tad p!ssed off about waiting for an R with Prets.  Who was that??  :tongue:  :laugh:
People have short memories  :whistle:
Want to buy mine and i'll go order a 335 X-drive?  :grin:
I'll pass thanks!  Yours is a sh!te manual  :kiss:
....with dodgy ACC  :whistle:

Yes, Matt has a clunky manual (with clutch slip by now!), dodgy ACC, Prets with Bridgestones and no DCC so a ride as hard as a corpse on Viagra, but most of all a really dodgy colour: Lapiz which reminds me of Washable Blue Quink Ink
. :evil: :laugh:

He can't help it, he has yet to see the DSG light.  He is resisting well atm, but I'm sure he can be worn down if we try hard enough (maybe as hard as your copse/Viagra analogy  :grin:)

Quink ink!  That takes me back.  DSG; Biro, rollerball, gel pens.......where will it all end!  :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 20:15
^^
PS: I remember a while back someone else on here being tad p!ssed off about waiting for an R with Prets.  Who was that??  :tongue:  :laugh:
People have short memories  :whistle:
Want to buy mine and i'll go order a 335 X-drive?  :grin:
I'll pass thanks!  Yours is a sh!te manual  :kiss:
....with dodgy ACC  :whistle:

Yes, Matt has a clunky manual (with clutch slip by now!), dodgy ACC, Prets with Bridgestones and no DCC so a ride as hard as a corpse on Viagra, but most of all a really dodgy colour: Lapiz which reminds me of Washable Blue Quink Ink
. :evil: :laugh:

He can't help it, he has yet to see the DSG light.  He is resisting well atm, but I'm sure he can be worn down if we try hard enough (maybe as hard as your copse/Viagra analogy  :grin:)

Quink ink!  That takes me back.  DSG; Biro, rollerball, gel pens.......where will it all end!  :laugh:

I will rue the day DSG becomes compulsory. Reliant on a relatively dumb computer to make your changes for you, trying hard to get you straight up to a tall gear or hanging on every gear to red line - there seems little middle ground for it to interpret the throttle, slightly more economical on the test cycle, but generally thirstier in real life (when I have borrowed my dad's GTD when he's flown on holiday from Newcastle airport, I get 10% lower mpg than my own GTD when I had it), and they want £1500 for it. Many downsides for anyone not in constant gridlock, but you do get 0.2s 0-62 bragging rights (utilising the launch control) if that means a lot to you.

Just reminded me of a reason for me not to get a 335 X-drive, only available in auto.

I do like the Lapiz - looking a smidge darker than Cobalt blue on a bright day, looking more Cadburys purple on a crappy day. Red for a GTI/GTD, not so good on a standard Golf or an R (plainer front end of the R makes it look a lot like an SE/GT)
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 20:48

Yes, Matt has a clunky manual (with clutch slip by now!), dodgy ACC, Prets with Bridgestones and no DCC so a ride as hard as a corpse on Viagra, but most of all a really dodgy colour: Lapiz which reminds me of Washable Blue Quink Ink[/b][/i]. :evil: :laugh:

He can't help it, he has yet to see the DSG light.  He is resisting well atm, but I'm sure he can be worn down if we try hard enough (maybe as hard as your copse/Viagra analogy  :grin:)

Quink ink!  That takes me back.  DSG; Biro, rollerball, gel pens.......where will it all end!  :laugh:

I will rue the day DSG becomes compulsory. Reliant on a relatively dumb computer to make your changes for you, trying hard to get you straight up to a tall gear or hanging on every gear to red line - there seems little middle ground for it to interpret the throttle, slightly more economical on the test cycle, but generally thirstier in real life (when I have borrowed my dad's GTD when he's flown on holiday from Newcastle airport, I get 10% lower mpg than my own GTD when I had it), and they want £1500 for it. Many downsides for anyone not in constant gridlock, but you do get 0.2s 0-62 bragging rights (utilising the launch control) if that means a lot to you.

Just reminded me of a reason for me not to get a 335 X-drive, only available in auto.

I do like the Lapiz - looking a smidge darker than Cobalt blue on a bright day, looking more Cadburys purple on a crappy day. Red for a GTI/GTD, not so good on a standard Golf or an R (plainer front end of the R makes it look a lot like an SE/GT)

I will also rue the day DSG becomes 'compulsory' but not for your reasons.  I believe in having a choice.

Everyone is different, and not wishing to sound arrogant but the mpg is never very high up in my consideration.  So I really couldn't care less about a 10% mpg saving with manual over DSG.  By the same token, I also couldn't care less about gaining 0.2s at 0-62, at the traffic light rally.  In Canterbury, once you've gone through any set of traffic lights, it's only about 5-10 metres before you hit the next line of traffic anyway  :wink:

Purple cars.....no  :sick:  :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 08 August 2015, 21:22
I really don't care about mpg either. It is what it is. + or - 10% is neither here nor there. What is here and there is the clunkiness of a manual car. Horrid things IMO.

Anyway, get a Diesel if fuel economy or lack of bothers. Even better, get a fast BMW Diesel. There, we are back on topic. :wink:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 August 2015, 23:27

What is here and there is the clunkiness of a manual car. Horrid things IMO.

You need to learn some clutch control.  :grin: I do find the DSG quite jerky in the 2>1 downchange whenever i'm in one. 10% on the mpg front might not seem much, but it is significant when people choose DSG thinking that their mpg is going to be better.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 08 August 2015, 23:44

What is here and there is the clunkiness of a manual car. Horrid things IMO.

You need to learn some clutch control.  :grin: I do find the DSG quite jerky in the 2>1 downchange whenever i'm in one. 10% on the mpg front might not seem much, but it is significant when people choose DSG thinking that their mpg is going to be better.

Anyone primarily choosing DSG for it's mpg benefits is missing the point of it!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Exonian on 09 August 2015, 18:16
At least with those colour seats and RWD you can disguise the evidence when the arse end steps out in the wet after a bit of over exuberance.  :smug:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 09 August 2015, 18:43
That BMW is a nice car and all but (only my opinion) I only see a rep mobile.Sorry.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 09 August 2015, 19:40
That BMW is a nice car and all but (only my opinion) I only see a rep mobile.Sorry.

Now, now let's play nice.
Lots of chavs are driving Rs, present company excluded of course.
Professionals also drive high spec 330d M Sports too. :cool:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: TwoSheds on 09 August 2015, 20:04

What is here and there is the clunkiness of a manual car. Horrid things IMO.

You need to learn some clutch control.  :grin: I do find the DSG quite jerky in the 2>1 downchange whenever i'm in one. 10% on the mpg front might not seem much, but it is significant when people choose DSG thinking that their mpg is going to be better.

Anyone primarily choosing DSG for it's mpg benefits is missing the point of it!

Agree,

I wouldn't have thought anybody would have chosen DSG in the first place for better MPG as nearly every model has worse mpg figures on paper.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 09 August 2015, 20:14
That BMW is a nice car and all but (only my opinion) I only see a rep mobile.Sorry.

Now, now let's play nice.
Lots of chavs are driving Rs, present company excluded of course.
Professionals also drive high spec 330d M Sports too. :cool:

I do hope you are not referring to your fellow vwroc buddies.   :tongue: :kiss: :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 09 August 2015, 20:27
I apologise and appreciate that the BMW is a fantastic car but I can't help but see it as a rep mobile.In the past I have tried to love them but I'd sooner have my toenails pulled out and put in a pie that I have to eat.
If I was a rep however,the 330d would make me work even harder to obtain one for bragging rights on the travelodge car park.
For what it's worth,you only live once,an RS3 or a BMW,come on.
We will have to agree to disagree I'm afraid.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 August 2015, 21:08
The BMW 3 series (mainly swathes of 320d) becoming the new Ford Mondeo in the preferred rep/lower management company car is the main reason that BMWs are punching well below their weight on the residuals front.

They've gone in heavy on the fleet market in the last 8 years and it has hurt the private buyer. They're not a car that is generally bought new with private money these days, and for that reason it's essential to get a huge discount off a new one to keep the depreciation losses reasonable. Nice cars though, if I were to get behind the wheel of one I would definitely be going for the 3.0L 6 cylinder diesel unit.

On the other hand, there are plenty of charvas coming from 10 year old Halfords special Clios and Corsas jumping into a dirt cheap leased R. I do think it was a once only, not to be repeated offer to get the word out, but seemed a puzzling move by VW seeing as the R was starting to get heard of through its reviews and anyone buying one privately had to generally wait longer for theirs.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 09 August 2015, 21:31
I know,and agree.I have never even driven a BMW and who knows I probably would enjoy the experience.
I come over in a cold sweat and nausea even passing a BMW dealership.
My names Andy and I'm addicted to Golf's.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 09 August 2015, 22:21
I know,and agree.I have never even driven a BMW and who knows I probably would enjoy the experience.
I come over in a cold sweat and nausea even passing a BMW dealership.
My names Andy and I'm addicted to Golf's.

Lol.  Don't worry Andy you are not alone. Anyone for Golf's Anonymous?  First meet next week, venue - opposite any BMW dealership.  :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 09 August 2015, 22:26
Andy

No issue with your view - each to their own.  I drove all the cars back to back and while the RS3 is a great car no way I would pay 50k for one..

I can honestly say the 330d left me gob smacked when I drove it hard.. It's far from a rep mobile and tbh I like the fact most people don't have any idea of the performance on offer.  For 34k the deal I got, I didn't, in the end, come close to ordering an S3 or anything else because the refinement was way ahead of all the others..

Running costs are a small but real consideration and the bmw delivered 42 mpg on my very hard test drive.. The golf gti 28, the S3 and R about 25-26.. And I would wager over most roads the bmw would easily keep up with the others..

In vanilla spec the 3 series is dull, but with the 3 liter engine, M sport plus pack with bigger brakes etc it's a very compelling package.. You should at least drive one..  I live the golf gti but ultimately they are all 4 cyl hatches..
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 09 August 2015, 22:39
Your of course right drisser and you will enjoy your new car,you have had test drives in them all,I have not.All the best,I hope I've not offended in any way.Pics would be good when it arrives.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 09 August 2015, 22:42
None taken  :wink:

Must say I do see more golf R's than 330d's on my daily commute though.. Never sure if they are R line tdi's or the real deal though until I am close up  :rolleyes:

Sorry couldn't resist !!  Let's face it, all the big car companies use the same tricks !!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 09 August 2015, 22:45
The Golf is a shopping trolley whether it is a GTD/GTI/R. They are 4cyl hatches. A 6 pot  BMW F30 is an amazing car and no Golf or Audi A3 (whether S3 or RS3 with its 5 pot lump) provides that extra je ne sais quoi one gets with a 6 pot BMW F30.

Drive an sDrive 6 pot F30 BMW and be amazed. To have an obtuse opinion on a car when one has not even driven one is so blinkered, stupid and pointless.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 09 August 2015, 22:48
I am indeed stupid.Your not the first to point this out to me.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 09 August 2015, 22:50
I am indeed stupid.Your not the first to point this out to me.

LOL! Then you must drive an F30 6pot BMW sDrive and banish this stain!  :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 09 August 2015, 22:55
Nothing against BMW's per se, but why is it so hard for some to accept that for many of us a 4cyl shopping trolley in GTD/GTI/R guise, is quite good enough, nay, actually most definitely good enough?

Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Exonian on 09 August 2015, 23:29
Nothing against BMW's per se, but why is it so hard for some to accept that for many of us a 4cyl shopping trolley in GTD/GTI/R guise, is quite good enough, nay, actually most definitely good enough?

Hear, hear.
(Polite applause)
And especially those amongst us that actually have one in our tenure in one guise or another.
A Golf is a good balance of most things and just about affordable to the masses (give or take).
Unless you modify it then it won't generally set your pulse racing but it's the right blend of "nice" at its price and size point.

A 330d is a wonderful machine.
But it's also much bigger and more expensive than a Golf.

I guess it would be nice to own both...  :whistle:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 09 August 2015, 23:48
I accept a 330 is a great car.I get it.Its just the guy in my street gets his with his job cos he sells loads of wigits or what ever he sells.
Its like oysters,my friends say Andy try them you will love them.I say oysters and BMW's NEVER!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Exonian on 10 August 2015, 00:18
I accept a 330 is a great car.I get it.Its just the guy in my street gets his with his job cos he sells loads of wigits or what ever he sells.
Its like oysters,my friends say Andy try them you will love them.I say oysters and BMW's NEVER!
Likewise.
I have massive respect for many BMW's but none of them quite hit the spot for me.
As for Oysters, just NOOOOOO! They stink, that's enough for me.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Booth11 on 10 August 2015, 00:19
I accept a 330 is a great car.I get it.Its just the guy in my street gets his with his job cos he sells loads of wigits or what ever he sells.
Its like oysters,my friends say Andy try them you will love them.I say oysters and BMW's NEVER!
Likewise.
I have massive respect for many BMW's but none of them quite hit the spot for me.
As for Oysters, just NOOOOOO! They stink, that's enough for me.

+1 on both scores.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: mjh_056 on 10 August 2015, 13:36
I accept a 330 is a great car.I get it.Its just the guy in my street gets his with his job cos he sells loads of wigits or what ever he sells.
Its like oysters,my friends say Andy try them you will love them.I say oysters and BMW's NEVER!
Likewise.
I have massive respect for many BMW's but none of them quite hit the spot for me.
As for Oysters, just NOOOOOO! They stink, that's enough for me.

Would not have a 3 series BMW due to personal preference of not liking bigger cars. Its that simple for me to exclude.

There is one other issue for me with BMW in general (not sure if this has been resolved in anyway outside of x Drive so open to correction) and that was in last bad winter seeing my company car park littered with BMW who slipped and slide away from the rear and were eventually left abandoned. In reality there is only small gradients but they were basically left un-driveable. Add in the stories of colleagues leaving their BMW in the drives as cannot get them out and that does certainly have you thinking twice about seriously considering.

Understand that BMW is a real drivers car with the rear wheel drive and on a track that's a lot of fun but most of us will be driving on UK roads on standard tyres in pretty poor conditions for at least a decent chunk of the year and the BMW in standard form would lose me something that quite like having in the feeling of being very sure footed. Reason think of moving to R is to give me more sure footedness so for me its a bigger issue than maybe for others in not looking at BMW 

Used to not like style of BMW to much, but think the facelifts of all the models have been pretty good and catch the eye far more so on that front would be more interested then ever been but rear wheel drive and power in UK conditions is something that does put big tick in the against box when weighing pros and cons.

Last winter was not too bad so not something imagine was too much of a problem overall but am interested if this is seen as an issue now?

Will say that the 330D selected here does look stunning and sure drives amazingly too based on all reviews read and good to see that a GTI forum debates another brand so openly on face value without much of pettiness that see elsewhere where it gets really personal and think that's credit to regular members here and real contributors of informative posts and responses  (definitely not including myself in that category!)

Its good to read about other marquee models too as you need comparison to see where own preference stands so long may that openness continue.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 10 August 2015, 13:50
well said  :smiley:

I wasn't aiming to start a them v us debate with my test drive post, simply to share some thoughts and in the main that is why I like this forum a lot because everyone is very open minded and appreciates good cars for whatever personal reason that might be..

As someone who previously ordered a GTI I love the brand ( more so than the R to be honest - I get the appeal, but feel it is just too marketing driven and all about headline numbers, whereas the GTi has more heritage for me )

What really sank in for me during my extended test drives, especially the 2nd weekend when I had 3 cars for 2 hours each.. that is when you really get under the skin of a car - the initial rush about the look, or the acceleration, which blinds you on the first drive, floats away a bit. 

2nd time round you analyse a lot more about the brakes, the tech and music connectivity, the nav quality, real world fuel economy, ride quality over a range of roads, how does the engine and gearbox gel together, does it FEEL expensive and differentiated, does everyone cut you up and think you are a to55er etc !

It was only after considering all these things I came to a conclusion re the BMW.  I felt that the depth of engineering in particular, especially engine and gearbox combination was by far the best for the money, however the Golf Gti was probably my 2nd choice because it does so many things well and is considerably cheaper to buy and run, so its a great all rounder..

One final point that I consider very important - local dealer and their service.  Lets face it a lot of 30-40k cars are all VERY good indeed.  I have found Audi service to be slipping, and my local BMW dealer is just fantastic to deal with - loads of stuff and quotes sent by email, always unaccompanied test drives for as long as I like - really good discounts and deals and good after sales support.  This definitely had a factor in my choice.

I did consider your point about winter, having had BMW's before they are useless, however I do know people who have fitted winter tyres to BMW's and say its night and day.  To be honest if the weather is that bad, most cars will struggle - especially to stop and having had an Audi with Quattro before I was left a bit disappointed with bad weather performance.. it also encourages a degree of invicibility which can be dangerous.. plus if it snows that bad, its an excuse to work from home  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: matchboy on 10 August 2015, 15:24
I agree with the open mindedness about this forum - its great to see chat about other cars and not just VW's as real world comparisons are good to have without the fanboy bias!

Great choice of car drisser, and a really good spec!  You'll love it I'm sure!

Re: the point with BMW's in the winter, yes that is an issue.  But, my view on that is unless you really, really, have to go out when the weather is that bad, why would you?  Let's face it, you can be driving the world's best 4x4 but that won't stop someone else sliding into you and damaging your car.  I'd rather stay at home with my BMW sitting comfortable on the driveway, work from home, then give it a few days for the snow to thaw - rear wheel drive problem sorted!
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: Rhyso on 10 August 2015, 15:40
Nah just get a decent set of winter's and give it your best Ken Block skillz  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: AndyG on 10 August 2015, 15:49
Enjoy the BMW drisser,it's only light weight banter,I would expect nothing less if I posted that I was changing to a golf on a BMW forum.
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: corgi on 10 August 2015, 17:12
There is one other issue for me with BMW in general (not sure if this has been resolved in anyway outside of x Drive so open to correction) and that was in last bad winter seeing my company car park littered with BMW who slipped and slide away from the rear and were eventually left abandoned. 

I never had that issue with my 123d (which I drove throughout the bad winter a few years ago) and it was on run-flats (I couldn't source any winter tyres)... but it did have the e-diff which helped.

In those conditions with summer tyres fitted, four wheel drive might help you get moving but little else. It is certainly a hindrance when it comes to slowing down and stopping.

Again, many of the cars that get stuck do so because their drivers often don't rive appropriately. A few years ago on the Yorkshire Dales, it started snowing very heavily and driving home, I came across a BMW X5 going up a hill (or not going up). Driving my GTI Ed30 I cruised gently past by this stage there was 3 inches of snow and I wasn't going to stop on the hill to render assistance because I knew that I'd struggle to get moving again.

The best answer to conditions like these is appropriate tyres... my mate's fwd Skoda Flelicia rally car will go places in the snow on appropriate tyres that his VW Touareg can't go on summer tyres...
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: david25 on 10 August 2015, 18:47
Will it look like this?

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=784227&d=1353267078 (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=784227&d=1353267078)
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: drisser on 10 August 2015, 20:34
not quite..  that looks like luxury line which has tan coloured part dash..

the M sport has black only dash so the leather is only the seats and doors..
Title: Re: My last post about 330d (I promise - now ordered)
Post by: am1w on 10 August 2015, 22:19
drisser dear chap:

Your car will come with Bridgestone RF tyres. In 19" guise the ride is a bit harsh from what I remember. As you have not ordered M Sport Adaptive Suspension, which is a pity IMO, it might be a good idea to change your tyres to Michelin PSS ones if the ride bothers you. Our 330d M Sport is on 18" wheels with Adaptive. Unfortunately, it cost a bit extra to fully spec the car without the M Sport+ Pack. However, the ride and handling are sublime, though the handling is definitely not as good as an R as the BMW is more softly suspended; R's ride is slightly harder but still excellent especially in comfort mode.

Enjoy the wonders of a 6 pot Diesel RWD Auto BMW. The depth of engineering excellence is truly wonderful.