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Title: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Exonian on 28 July 2015, 22:02
No, not a desperate weight saving effort, but I really could do with a simple way of getting my under seat drawer out.
Either that or can someone lend me a dog with a very long tongue?



I have a friend who runs a (gluten free) baking company who left me some chocolate brownies in work.
I put said brownies in the under seat drawer to keep them cool but during the trip they fell out of the bag and crumbled a bit in the drawer.
If I can get the drawer out I can give it a proper clean.
Failing that I guess I'll have a free chocolate orange flavoured car air freshener scent and possibly some free anti biotics soon too...
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 July 2015, 22:08
I'm guessing there'll be some tabs to feel up and push in on the sides while pulling the drawer out. Failing that, pushing the sidewalls in a bit while pulling the drawer (as you would for the little cubby by the steering wheel) might do it. Best to have the drawer pulled out as far as possible and feel where the resistance is.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 28 July 2015, 22:20
Won't a long hose vacuum attachment reach said crumbs?  Or are they all melted into the drawer?

Are these under seat drawers standard now (minus the brownie crumbs of course)?  Are they under both driver and passenger seats?  On  the Mk6 I specced the storage pack to get them. Total waste of time and money IMO, as I always found them to be a strange size, not quite big enough for anything really.  I now rarely put anything in them as I can't stand anything rattling around. 

The brownie crumbs would drive me mad and I'd have to get them out.  My cat has a freakishly long tongue if that any use  :laugh: They must surely unhook somehow perhaps as MH says or maybe you have to lift and pull out a bit like fridge/freezer drawers?
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: GolfTi on 28 July 2015, 22:34
The things that can happen..... :laugh: :laugh:

If you can't get the drawer out then maybe a soak with mild detergent and a a wet vacuum?
Failing that the local Poles.

I hope you get it sorted Exonion, I really do but at the same time it's one of the funniest things I've read on here in ages. The detail you gave just made it better.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Exonian on 28 July 2015, 22:57
Thanks for the advice and sympathy so far.

I'm not sure where any tabs would be, I did have a fiddle with the drawer squeezing it and wiggling it trying to find any hidden tabs but just ended up with plastic drawer lubricant all over my fingers!
Not nice when you're wearing clean clothes and the nearest tissue is deep in your pocket...
So I have a slightly greasy phone and trousers now too.

The Hoover will be my next step but they're putting the roof on the house opposite me at the moment so it's like a war zone in the road. I was hoping to just get the drawer out and give it a whack or two.

If you could post kitty to me Mme B I'd be hugely grateful! Hope she's got a sweet tooth!

And yes indeedy, on the sporty models we have free drawers that have nice (crap) carpets glued in them as standard. Very useful for transporting small amounts of cake but not good for much else. Not even big enough to get the service wallet in.

Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 28 July 2015, 23:24
If you could post kitty to me Mme B I'd be hugely grateful! Hope she's got a sweet tooth!

And yes indeedy, on the sporty models we have free drawers that have nice (crap) carpets glued in them as standard. Very useful for transporting small amounts of cake but not good for much else. Not even big enough to get the service wallet in.

I would endeavour to post the long tongued kitty but have you ever tried to wrestle a cat into a Jiffy bag!!!

Maybe the drawers on the sportier models are for stashing all the speeding tickets  :laugh:

All this trauma for a bit of cake which hasn't even got good 'ole gluten in.  But good luck with your brownie crisis, here's hoping your car will soon be cake free!
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: mcmaddy on 29 July 2015, 07:27
I'm sure you only get the drawers if you spec poverty cloth. You don't get them with leather due to the motor for the electric seats. Not sure if it's still the case though.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 08:25
I'm sure you only get the drawers if you spec poverty cloth. You don't get them with leather due to the motor for the electric seats. Not sure if it's still the case though.

Hmm, interesting.  I'm having leather - so you mean I might miss out on the oh so useful drawers?  What a disappointment!  Where on earth am I going to keep my gluten free brownies now  :cry: :cry: :grin:

On a serious note - anyone with leather confirm it comes sans under seat drawers?  I won't miss them. 

It would be a bit odd though since they managed to squeeze drawers in Mk6's with leather (if you specced storage pack), so it can be done.  Doesn't interfere with anything so far as I know.  And that's with the Bluetooth module under the drivers seat, and Dynaudio box under the passenger seat.    What motor?  The one for operating the lumbar adjustment? 
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 10:27
I don't think the MK7 has electric lumbar support. That was dropped after the MK6.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: AndyG on 29 July 2015, 12:14
I've got leather with drawer under seat.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: ffrank on 29 July 2015, 12:58
The only time my drawers are used is by confused passengers trying to move the seat forwards/backwards.

I agree a cat io possibly small rodent (avoiding any combination of the 2), is the clear solution. Booth - one thing the internet has taught me is cats will sit in very small cardboard boxes if left hanging around, could be a suitable packaging option?
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Sootchucker on 29 July 2015, 13:11
Does this help ?

Removal

–  Unbolt front seat and tilt it towards rear. Do not remove seat completely → Chapter.
–  Remove bracket for seat trim
–  Remove any objects from the storage compartment -2-.
–  Pull out compartment -2-.
–  Remove bolt -3-.
–  Close storage compartment -2-.
-  Remove bolt -1-.
–  Lower storage compartment -1- at front of seat -2-.
–  Pull storage compartment -1- towards front in direction of travel.
–  Remove storage compartment -1- from mountings -arrow- on left and right.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/371/19926612089_10463a9395_o.png)

[url=https://flic.kr/p/vGtaNV](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/496/19492307133_84eea890fe_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/wmR6xp)

Installing

Install in reverse order, but note the following:
–  Ensure that the retainer for side trim is properly engaged in mounting on storage compartment.

Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 13:39
I don't think the MK7 has electric lumbar support. That was dropped after the MK6.

 :shocked: :sad:  Really?  So no adjustable lumbar support or just not electrically controlled?   Do you have to blow the thing up yourself!

Shame if that's the case.  Cheapskates - more cost cutting  :angry:

Booth - one thing the internet has taught me is cats will sit in very small cardboard boxes if left hanging around, could be a suitable packaging option?

'Tis very true, a cat likes a box!  In fact this very morning as I left the house for work, I noticed one of my cat's tails sticking out of a box waiting to be recycled (the box not the cat).  Obviously his choice of bed for today's 18 hour nap! 

Though I adore felines, I loath the plethora of stupid internet/facebook/youtube cat antic videos.  Almost as much as I hate 'friends' on facebook who post daily (sometimes hourly!) uplifting spiritual messages  :sick:  That's why I spend my time on car forums  :grin:   
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 13:57
Rebecca, I think the leather seats have the same manual lumbar adjustment as the cloth seats. 99% sure the electric adjustment isn't in the MK7.

EDIT: I'm 100% it is manual adjustment. I just looked up a few pics of leather'ed MK7's on my phone  :cool:
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 15:35
Rebecca, I think the leather seats have the same manual lumbar adjustment as the cloth seats. 99% sure the electric adjustment isn't in the MK7.

EDIT: I'm 100% it is manual adjustment. I just looked up a few pics of leather'ed MK7's on my phone  :cool:

Thanks Joe.  Ah well, no matter.

I did do a quick google image search but most of the photos seem to cut off at the crucial point!  Is is a little lever then?  Not a big deal, I never have any lumbar support on anyway but my partner is forever messing with it.  Maybe having the inconvenience of having to do it manually will put him off and I won't have to reset it after he's used the car  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 15:53
Rebecca, I think the leather seats have the same manual lumbar adjustment as the cloth seats. 99% sure the electric adjustment isn't in the MK7.

EDIT: I'm 100% it is manual adjustment. I just looked up a few pics of leather'ed MK7's on my phone  :cool:

Thanks Joe.  Ah well, no matter.

I did do a quick google image search but most of the photos seem to cut off at the crucial point!  Is is a little lever then?  Not a big deal, I never have any lumbar support on anyway but my partner is forever messing with it.  Maybe having the inconvenience of having to do it manually will put him off and I won't have to reset it after he's used the car  :rolleyes:

Yeah, it's a little lever. The Mk5/6 had a rotary knob but the MK7 is different. I can't remember the last time I ever adjusted it in the GTI tbh. Here's a pic!

(http://autobuzz.my/v1/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mk7-golf-r-0014.jpg?77e39f)



Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 16:12
Thanks.  I was looking in the wrong place!  I saw that lever and thought it was for moving the seats on a 3 door forward for access to the rear.  Never had a 3 door Golf so know no better  :embarrassed:

The little rocker switch on the mk5/6 is handy if you do adjust the seats.  Mk8 will have manual wind down windows at this rate  :grin:

To get back on topic.....

Mr Ex, is your car brownie crumb free yet?
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 16:51
Thanks.  I was looking in the wrong place!  I saw that lever and thought it was for moving the seats on a 3 door forward for access to the rear.  Never had a 3 door Golf so know no better  :embarrassed:

The handle to fold the seats forward in a 3 door is up at the top near the head rest.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: ajmoir36 on 29 July 2015, 16:51
I am pretty sure on the R drawers at standard
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Exonian on 29 July 2015, 17:00
A huge thanks to Mr N for posting up that little run through :afro:

Just what I needed to see but not what I wanted to see! As it involved tipping the seat and undoing bolts something is bound to do wrong if I attempt it (years of DIY experience has taught me I'm useless) and I'd probably get rid of the crumbs and end up with a creaking seat forever more, which would quickly drive me insane.
The vacuum cleaner it is.
Mind you I doubt I'll use the car again this week and possibly not next week either so I'll have probably forgotten the crumbs are there until next time I need to transport gluten free cakes slices.

I did spend a fair bit of time on my knees seeing if the drawer was just clipped in underneath like a mk6 drawer but alas Mr N's diagram pics prove otherwise. My workmates did wonder what I was up to, kneeling on the ground hanging out of the drivers footwell. They didn't believe me when I said it was prayer time.


Back to more interesting things: My old neighbour's ginger (female) cat used to like getting inside empty carrier bags when we were putting shopping away. Then her housemate white (female) cat used to climb in the peg box when we were hanging washing out. Well I say "we", I generally supervised and made tea...

As for Facebook! Noooooooo! I used to have an account years ago but binned it. Too many adverts and pop ups on the phone for no reason, too much crap on there. Too many crap people on there!
"I'm having a really bad day"
"Ohhhhh what's up hun xxxxx"
Then no reply to the dozens of nosey/caring "friends" only for the original poster to appear a few days later with some photo showing what a great life they're having.... go figure...

And don't start on those motivational b0ll0cks posts. Grrrrrrrr

No, it's much 'safer' on here. Sort of.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 17:09

As for Facebook! Noooooooo! I used to have an account years ago but binned it. Too many adverts and pop ups on the phone for no reason, too much crap on there. Too many crap people on there!
"I'm having a really bad day"
"Ohhhhh what's up hun xxxxx"
Then no reply to the dozens of nosey/caring "friends" only for the original poster to appear a few days later with some photo showing what a great life they're having.... go figure...

And don't start on those motivational b0ll0cks posts. Grrrrrrrr

No, it's much 'safer' on here. Sort of.

Haha  :laugh:

Your "what's up Hun" point made me laugh.  I went on Volksgirls forum around the time I joined on here, just to see what it was like.  Well, apart from being in a minority because I didn't have a Beetle, every other post was "Aw, Hun, this and Aw Hun that".  Not for me  :grin:
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 July 2015, 18:25

As for Facebook! Noooooooo! I used to have an account years ago but binned it. Too many adverts and pop ups on the phone for no reason, too much crap on there. Too many crap people on there!
"I'm having a really bad day"
"Ohhhhh what's up hun xxxxx"
Then no reply to the dozens of nosey/caring "friends" only for the original poster to appear a few days later with some photo showing what a great life they're having.... go figure...

And don't start on those motivational b0ll0cks posts. Grrrrrrrr

No, it's much 'safer' on here. Sort of.

Haha  :laugh:

Your "what's up Hun" point made me laugh.  I went on Volksgirls forum around the time I joined on here, just to see what it was like.  Well, apart from being in a minority because I didn't have a Beetle, every other post was "Aw, Hun, this and Aw Hun that".  Not for me  :grin:

Yep,

I ditched Facebook ages ago. My Superscrounger sister (Think Jeremy Kyle and Benefits street all rolled into one - £38k a year in benefits and "carers allowance" for 2 of her 4 kids with diagnosed ADHD) posts on there every 5 mins about how tough her life is (fishing for people to ask "what's up?" doing feck all and getting paid handsomely for it. Packs the kids off to school and spends all day in Starbucks with her other mates that scrounge for a living - what a hard life, she even has a cleaner for her 5 bedroom council house.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: david25 on 29 July 2015, 19:09
I don't think the MK7 has electric lumbar support. That was dropped after the MK6.

Available with the electric seats?

(http://www.ashmotorsltd.co.uk/admin/uploaded_photos/9289_22_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 19:47
I don't think the MK7 has electric lumbar support. That was dropped after the MK6.

Available with the electric seats?

(http://www.ashmotorsltd.co.uk/admin/uploaded_photos/9289_22_big.jpg)

Doesn't ever seem to have been offered as an option in UK/Irish markets. I've seen electric seats on the "lesser" MK7's here though - the GT/Highline models.


Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 20:17
Yep,
I ditched Facebook ages ago. My Superscrounger sister (Think Jeremy Kyle and Benefits street all rolled into one - £38k a year in benefits and "carers allowance" for 2 of her 4 kids with diagnosed ADHD) posts on there every 5 mins about how tough her life is (fishing for people to ask "what's up?" doing feck all and getting paid handsomely for it. Packs the kids off to school and spends all day in Starbucks with her other mates that scrounge for a living - what a hard life, she even has a cleaner for her 5 bedroom council house.  :rolleyes:

It's a hard life for some isn't it  :whistle:  And they want everyone else to share the their tax payer funded 'misery'  :rolleyes:

I still occasionally use FB, but mainly to keep contact with my best friends (and Godparents to my daughter) who live in Boston and Australia. and friends in Whitley Bay.  Otherwise I would happily do without the FB extremes of mass moaning one minute and 'inspirational' quotes the next  :sick:
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 20:22
I don't think the MK7 has electric lumbar support. That was dropped after the MK6.

Available with the electric seats?

(http://www.ashmotorsltd.co.uk/admin/uploaded_photos/9289_22_big.jpg)

Doesn't ever seem to have been offered as an option in UK/Irish markets. I've seen electric seats on the "lesser" MK7's here though - the GT/Highline models.

I came across this pic on my earlier Google trawl and assumed it was for Euro market. 

It's a minor niggle but that manual adjustment handle (in your earlier pic) placed slap bang in the side of the seat is ugly, not to mention outdated. I prefer clean lines and the old rocker switch was discreet and worked well, so it slightly irks me that VW have taken a backward step with this. 
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Sootchucker on 29 July 2015, 20:26
That's not a manual handle Rebecca, that the electronic lumbar adjustment (in / out -up / down)
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 20:32
That's not a manual handle Rebecca, that the electronic lumbar adjustment (in / out -up / down)

I don't mean the switches in the image above?  I mean the handle in this pic (below) which I'm told is the adjustment for the lumbar support now which has replaced the old rocker 4 way switch on Mk5/6s

(http://autobuzz.my/v1/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mk7-golf-r-0014.jpg?77e39f)
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 20:57
The above pic is manual lumbar adjustment and that's what you'll have in your R.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 21:04
The above pic is manual lumbar adjustment and that's what you'll have in your R.

Cheers Joe.  Yep, I was clear on that from earlier but I think Sootchucker got the wrong end of the stick.  A handle it is then.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 21:09
The above pic is manual lumbar adjustment and that's what you'll have in your R.

Cheers Joe.  Yep, I was clear on that from earlier but I think Sootchucker got the wrong end of the stick.  A handle it is then.

Yep! On another note, I got word today that my car has completed production - a week late! I had been told that it was confirmed week 30 but it only went into production on Monday and was completed this morning. I'm told I should see it in or around 14-15th August.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 21:26
The above pic is manual lumbar adjustment and that's what you'll have in your R.

Cheers Joe.  Yep, I was clear on that from earlier but I think Sootchucker got the wrong end of the stick.  A handle it is then.

Yep! On another note, I got word today that my car has completed production - a week late! I had been told that it was confirmed week 30 but it only went into production on Monday and was completed this morning. I'm told I should see it in or around 14-15th August.

A week late!  Well you've waited this long. At least the end is in sight and only a couple weeks now till you can take possession.  Excited?

Still no movement on mine and dealer is on hols, but I am sceptical that it's going to be anything like the unconfirmed build week.  For what it's worth tracker still showing at stage 2  :sad:
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: JoeGTI on 29 July 2015, 21:49
When I say a week late, I really mean about 8-10 weeks late! I had expected to be collecting the bloomin thing on July 1st!

I'm not particularly excited tbh. I've waited so long and put up with VW's appalling service for months, so the novelty has worn off quite a bit. I'm still in my MK7 GTI too while I wait so it's not like I'm slumming it in a runabout while waiting either. Ah I'm sure the excitement will pick up again when I finally see it!
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 21:56
When I say a week late, I really mean about 8-10 weeks late! I had expected to be collecting the bloomin thing on July 1st!

I'm not particularly excited tbh. I've waited so long and put up with VW's appalling service for months, so the novelty has worn off quite a bit. I'm still in my MK7 GTI too while I wait so it's not like I'm slumming it in a runabout while waiting either. Ah I'm sure the excitement will pick up again when I finally see it!

Ha, yeah what's another week when you've waited 10! 

I'm with you on the not getting excited front.  A bit sad but I never get particularly excited about getting a new car.  Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to the change but not excited as such. I've had lots of new cars so the novelty wears off after a while.  I tend to appreciate cars more once I've been in them a while.

I hope everything goes smoothly at collection when yours does finally turn up.
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: p3asa on 29 July 2015, 22:07
Are these under seat drawers standard now (minus the brownie crumbs of course)? 

Yes
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: Booth11 on 29 July 2015, 22:26
Are these under seat drawers standard now (minus the brownie crumbs of course)? 

Yes

A definitive answer, thanks p3 (and AndyG who said the same) :smiley:

They will remain empty for at least 3 years!
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: david25 on 30 July 2015, 07:33
I don't think the MK7 has electric lumbar support. That was dropped after the MK6.

Available with the electric seats?


Doesn't ever seem to have been offered as an option in UK/Irish markets. I've seen electric seats on the "lesser" MK7's here though - the GT/Highline models.

It is possible, probably as a special order (like non-standard paint colour)

http://www.ashmotorsltd.co.uk/cars/volkswagen/golf/rmk7dsgtsi5drmassivespec!/9289/0
Title: Re: Removing under seat drawer?
Post by: James75 on 30 July 2015, 18:33

Glad you got it sorted

I thought electric seats had vanished from the UK line up??????


James