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Title: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Optimus prime on 28 July 2015, 13:49
Does anyone run a winter setup?  I used to on my 535d being rwd but does the fwd gtd need them?  If so do you drop to 17" or 16" rims?  Currently on 18" as standard.

Opinions pls  :smiley:

Thanks

OP
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Eccie on 28 July 2015, 15:55
Only had my GTI 1 month but I plan on fitting my 17" Monza's off my old MK5 Gti that have winter boots on, I test fitted them to make sure they'd fit, and they do, only just, but I'm pp with the big brakes - 16" wouldn't fit on mine.

Have a look here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=274418.msg2509928#msg2509928
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: BigD on 29 July 2015, 07:28
BBS SR016 (18s), Continental TS830P

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Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: pjr on 29 July 2015, 12:17
I used 16's on my non-PP GTI last winter, but that was only because I already had the wheels from my last car (A3).

I'd imagine the brakes on a GTD are the same size as mine so 16's would probably fit (assuming correct offset, PCD etc), but 17's or 18's would look better.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8585/16085726458_f7e30934bd_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Optimus prime on 29 July 2015, 12:51
Yes 16" should fit as they are shown on the door pillar, however I do agree that 17" will look better
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 30 July 2015, 20:06
Does anyone run a winter setup?

Opinions pls  :smiley:
We both use winter tyres.

I have a spare set of 16 inch alloys+tyres for my Mk6 GTD. My wife has tyres only, and gets them changed when necessary - cost £25.

Both methods have their pros and cons. However, I much prefer my wife's method.

I can fit/remove my winter tyres when I want. Though this involves 1.5 hours of heavy lifting. The alloys look crap on the car, but I don't have to worry much about hitting a pot hole on a dark winters night.

My wife has tyre storage bags with handles. She lifts the tyres into her boot. Takes the car to the local fitters. They do the heavy lifting and the tyres get balanced twice a year. The bags keep her and the car clean. The car looks exactly the same. She doesn't have to buy alloys.

People seem to think you need a second set of alloys for winter tyres. You really don't.

 

Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 30 July 2015, 20:14
... but does the fwd gtd need them?
Only you can answer that question. Are your roads definitely gritted? Does the area you live in get much frost/snow? Do you want maximum safety in winter conditions?

We live and work in rural locations. Though I would estimate that 95% of the time we do not NEED winter tyres. However, it is reassuring to know that the car will stop and turn the other 5% of the time.

An important lesson I learned - just because you have winter tyres fitted does not mean that you can drive the way you normally would if there was no snow and ice!

Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Medic1281 on 30 July 2015, 20:37
I use winter tyres all year round. They aren't that bad during the summer but great when the temp drops below 7 degrees. I've had ug8's on the front for 25k miles, they are about due for a change now. I'm happy running winters full time, it suits me.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: p3asa on 30 July 2015, 22:53
I use winter tyres all year round. They aren't that bad during the summer but great when the temp drops below 7 degrees. I've had ug8's on the front for 25k miles, they are about due for a change now. I'm happy running winters full time, it suits me.


Winter tyres performance drops dramatically compared to all year round tyres after just a few mm has worn down.
In fact I read a few articles that recommended changing them when they got to 5mm or thereabouts.

Winters would be my preference though all year round.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 30 July 2015, 22:55
I use winter tyres all year round. They aren't that bad during the summer but great when the temp drops below 7 degrees. I've had ug8's on the front for 25k miles, they are about due for a change now. I'm happy running winters full time, it suits me.
I have 16 inch Goodyear Ultragrip 8s for winter driving. I have found, in warm wet conditions, these tyres are awful. My wife had the same tyre on her Mk5 Match and felt the same.

My wife now has the new Continental WinterContact TS850s. They are supposed to be better in warm weather. Though tests still show that any summer tyre is better for braking in warm weather.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Optimus prime on 30 July 2015, 22:56
I use winter tyres all year round. They aren't that bad during the summer but great when the temp drops below 7 degrees. I've had ug8's on the front for 25k miles, they are about due for a change now. I'm happy running winters full time, it suits me.


Winter tyres performance drops dramatically compared to all year round tyres after just a few mm has worn down.
In fact I read a few articles that recommended changing them when they got to 5mm or thereabouts.

Winters would be my preference though all year round.

There are combination tyres called all seasons which work all year round
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: p3asa on 30 July 2015, 23:01
People seem to think you need a second set of alloys for winter tyres. You really don't.


Definitely don't but you have found somewhere that charges a very cheap price as most places will charge £10 a wheel.

So your wife only pays £50 a year for the 2 changes which is excellent as over an average ownership of 36 months that is a reasonable £150.
Which if she bought 2nd hand alloys off ebay she would probably have paid that anyway but chances are you would also sell them again at more or less the same price so costs you nothing over the 36 months.

My only concern getting the tyres changed twice a year apart from the price is the increased chance of them being damaged. Regardless of how careful a fitter is it does increase the chances.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Optimus prime on 30 July 2015, 23:04
People seem to think you need a second set of alloys for winter tyres. You really don't.


Definitely don't but you have found somewhere that charges a very cheap price as most places will charge £10 a wheel.

So your wife only pays £50 a year for the 2 changes which is excellent as over an average ownership of 36 months that is a reasonable £150.
Which if she bought 2nd hand alloys off ebay she would probably have paid that anyway but chances are you would also sell them again at more or less the same price so costs you nothing over the 36 months.

My only concern getting the tyres changed twice a year apart from the price is the increased chance of them being damaged. Regardless of how careful a fitter is it does increase the chances.

Just fit these & forget

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110&cart_id=60998605.110.32195&sowigan=GAN&Breite=225&Quer=40&Felge=18&Speed=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=PKW&x_tyre_for=&F_F=1&sort_by=Lable_2nass&rsmFahrzeugart=PKW&search_tool=standard&Label=C-C-69-1&details=Ordern&typ=R-269823
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: p3asa on 30 July 2015, 23:05
I use winter tyres all year round. They aren't that bad during the summer but great when the temp drops below 7 degrees. I've had ug8's on the front for 25k miles, they are about due for a change now. I'm happy running winters full time, it suits me.


Winter tyres performance drops dramatically compared to all year round tyres after just a few mm has worn down.
In fact I read a few articles that recommended changing them when they got to 5mm or thereabouts.

Winters would be my preference though all year round.

There are combination tyres called all seasons which work all year round

I've never been keen on a jack of all trades master of none, of anything in life. :laugh:  Much better buying stuff that is tailored for something specific. But that's just me.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Daz Auto on 31 July 2015, 22:52
People seem to think you need a second set of alloys for winter tyres. You really don't.


Definitely don't but you have found somewhere that charges a very cheap price as most places will charge £10 a wheel.

So your wife only pays £50 a year for the 2 changes which is excellent as over an average ownership of 36 months that is a reasonable £150.
Which if she bought 2nd hand alloys off ebay she would probably have paid that anyway but chances are you would also sell them again at more or less the same price so costs you nothing over the 36 months.

My only concern getting the tyres changed twice a year apart from the price is the increased chance of them being damaged. Regardless of how careful a fitter is it does increase the chances.
True. The usual price seems to be £40-50. Though we have a half price deal as we bought the tyres there. Other places offered a similar discount.

Not everyone has the required fitness, strength or skills to change their own tyres. (I don't think I have ever seen a fat tyre fitter! There is a reason for that.)

Yes, there is a higher risk of the alloys getting minor cosmetic damaged.

As for all season tyres - stopping distances and cornering are just not as good as the summer/winter tyre options. I want maximum safety for me and especially my wife.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: itavaltalainen on 01 August 2015, 01:09
All seasons are still better than winters in summer or summer in winter ....  :whistle:

Ran some for a while... nothing is better than the proper tyres for the season though. Summers when it's over 7 consistently or winters when it's under......
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 August 2015, 08:52
I don't think the British climate warrants full winter tyres although every area will be different. We don't suffer with months of snow and ice but more colder temperatures. All weather tyres fit our climate better at the moment.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: Optimus prime on 01 August 2015, 09:03
I don't think the British climate warrants full winter tyres although every area will be different. We don't suffer with months of snow and ice but more colder temperatures. All weather tyres fit our climate better at the moment.

Yes I totally agree
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: david25 on 01 August 2015, 10:28
MICHELIN CROSS CLIMATE

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Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: p3asa on 01 August 2015, 13:09
I don't think the British climate warrants full winter tyres although every area will be different. We don't suffer with months of snow and ice but more colder temperatures. All weather tyres fit our climate better at the moment.


I've got my 2 daughters and wife winter tyres with alloys. The golf sadly misses out  :sad:

Even if it is just for that one occasion when it snows heavily and you are thankful you have winter tyres. I just think it gives piece of mind.
The way I look at it is it doesn't cost me any more even although I have paid out for wheels for the winters to go on.
You can only wear one set of tyres out at a time so each set lasts longer then the wheels are sold when the car gets changed.

For them it also freshens up the look of the car twice a year as women can't resist a new set of shoes  :laugh:
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: kodkod.84 on 01 August 2015, 13:59
I've ran winter tyres on specific wheels on my last three cars. On my current A4 I have Conti TS830P in 16"

I have always bought a 2nd hand OEM set that are in reasonable condition, they will get covered in road salt, mud and brake dust in no time anyway in the winter. Smaller sizes are better in the snow.

Pros: you protect your summer rims, and get a chance to clean them properly once a year, you can rotate your wheels round each season to extend tyre life

Cons: need somewhere to store, yes they are quite heavy and cumbersome to change over.
Title: Re: Winter wheels & tyres
Post by: C2K on 01 August 2015, 14:13
I have ts830p on my 17" Singapore alloys off a lower mk7. Storage no issue for me, nor the changeover. Saves my 19s from potholes and salt and don't look too bad being off a mk7 anyway.

I don't think they are needed,  but nice to have a safety margin. I paid enough for the car, being second hand as a package they seemed a sensible buy to protect my purchase.