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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Waspy on 28 July 2015, 13:36

Title: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Waspy on 28 July 2015, 13:36
Considering buying a full wiring loom to replace the rapidly deteriorating one in my 8v. There are a couple of G60 ones on ebay (who knows why) and was wondering if there were any wiring differences between a bog standard 8v and a G60?
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: dubber36 on 28 July 2015, 15:04
Surely G60 ones will be for LHD shells?
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Waspy on 28 July 2015, 16:00
Surely G60 ones will be for LHD shells?

I'm sure you will let me know how dumb the following comment is but; wont that just mean it is a little longer? (Or shorter actually... shorter would be bad)
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Brighouse-gti on 28 July 2015, 21:22
Pretty sure there will be some differences between the two. A G60 loom measure boost not air flow and has a lambda sensor, so would need some splicing/blanking. The bigger difference (75% on this) is the plug that goes into the ECU would need the pins pulling and re-arranging to suit the CE2 ECU rather than CE1 ECU which is what the G60 management runs. I think I've got that right but if there's any guru's who can confirm?!
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Brighouse-gti on 28 July 2015, 21:32
......also may involve some fusebox fiddling, just depends on how you would use the loom. Have you not thought of getting a new loom made up?
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Waspy on 28 July 2015, 22:26
Cheers brighouse that's exactly what I was after!

I hadn't thought about getting one made up, it sounds expensive! Full looms on eBay run at about £100...
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Simeon on 29 July 2015, 13:38
Only fit a G60 loom if you're fitting a G60 engine!

I sold my 8v gti loom for 40quid and it took about a year.. Put a wanted ad up, someone will have one from when they did an engine conversion..
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Waspy on 29 July 2015, 15:22
Only fit a G60 loom if you're fitting a G60 engine!

I sold my 8v gti loom for 40quid and it took about a year.. Put a wanted ad up, someone will have one from when they did an engine conversion..

Okay, thanks! Ill get a wanted ad up, £40 is cheaper than a G60 engine, not sure its as fun though....
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Waspy on 29 July 2015, 23:28
Next question lads, what about an 8v mk3? Many differences? A lot more people breaking them (obviously), which makes it a lot easier to get your hands on the wiring...

EDIT: or a 16v mk2 for that matter...
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Brighouse-gti on 30 July 2015, 18:16
A mk3 8v loom should fit its pretty much the same engine. However there is something lurking in my brain somewhere about swapping to a mk3 loom, can't remember for the life in me what it is tho. Something to do with which way around the engine you wire it up ??? I'll have a look at my random notes ive got lurking about...... get bk to ya!!!
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Brighouse-gti on 30 July 2015, 18:24
God I'm quick... Here's a section of info courtesy of the infamous rub jonny...

it will plug in and work without any effort, but it wont fit very nicely in the engien bay as the routing is different, mainly how it runs int othe scuttle. the other thign is if the mk3 is late all the lighting loom is taped into the engien loom as well so the bulkhead grommet wont fit the mk2 hole.
 
its a case fo untape it all, strip out all the lighting and other unneded parts then fiddle with the routing so it fits in the mk2 bay nicely. swap mk2 grommets over and your're pretty much there. i swap the mk2 wiper loom over to the mk3 loom, but you could just chop and extend to suit.

Ta daaaaaa!
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: gazareth on 30 July 2015, 20:34
an early mk3 gti (2e engine) loom would be your best bet as it runs an airflow meter and idle valve like the pb engine. I would say fitting an agg loom would be a lot more involved. why not just do a full agg conversion? gives you a bit more grunt and shouldn't affect your insurance much. and you can pick up a running but rusty mk3 for peanuts to take all parts from.
Title: Re: Full Wiring loom 8v vs G60
Post by: Waspy on 31 July 2015, 00:16
Thanks for the help guys!

Still struggling to find a loom, by the sounds of it finding an 8v is going to be the best bet. They seem in high demand. Every breaker I contact has either already sold it, or someone else is interested blah blah.

On the engine front, I will probably end up doing a 2L conversion, and get the head ported and polished. Gearbox could do with a refurb, but don't have the cash for that. So plan is, for now. Pull the engine, new loom in, 2L bottom end on. Repaint the engine bay, engine back in. Happy days.

Just need to find a loom....!!!