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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: southlegend on 07 July 2015, 14:29

Title: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: southlegend on 07 July 2015, 14:29
Hi.

Just wondering if anyone has received a BW22 or later car yet?

Does it come with Car-Play App-Connect working as standard or did you spec the £100 option? I'm just asking as it seems some people across a couple of forums are having trouble getting it working. I'm wondering if it's worth me calling up and asking for the option to be added to my order.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: SF-GTD on 07 July 2015, 16:06
I think it's only standard with the pro nav, if you didn't go with that you'd need to add the £100 option to your order.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: JoeGTI on 07 July 2015, 16:13
There's a strong concensus out there that it can be activated at a later date by the dealers. But no one seems to know for sure... yet...
I played around with the MIB 2 in a Passat recently and when I went into the MirrorLink option, it threw up a message effectively telling me it required "dealer activation".
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: Cossieian on 07 July 2015, 17:08
I just added it to my car yesterday, seemed silly not to for only £100 :smiley:
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: fredgroves on 07 July 2015, 17:10
I am fairly sure we will find it can be activated with some hacking around...
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: James75 on 07 July 2015, 17:37

I wondered if on MIB2 it would be a firmware update?

Agree at a £100 it suggests that it could activated later on with MIB2 units.


James
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: fredgroves on 16 July 2015, 19:14
From what I've read, it will be a configuration item done through a menu... the code is already there
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: NeilH on 19 July 2015, 08:30
Next question will be how do we get it to allow apps to run that aren't on the certified for use whilst driving list. There aren't many on the lists I've seen at present and there must be plenty of useful apps or our own favourites that would present no more of an issues whilst driving than the ones that have been certified so far.

I put it on mine, hoping lots of useful apps will come along in the future. Not long to go now so I'll have a good  old play once it arrives.

Neil.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: fredgroves on 19 July 2015, 09:36
Neil - you can't run just any old app, it has to be specifically coded and certified.

No way around that AFAIK.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: NeilH on 19 July 2015, 10:04
I'm wondering how they control that though? It looks like you can mirror any app but if you start driving it's blocked from the system. So, there must be something in the app or more likely the head unit that hold's the certified list or checks the app. Given what the VCDS gang get up to, who knows.

Either way, I'll be hoping lots of app  creators will look to get their own apps certified especially internet radio, travel and so on.

Cheers, Neil.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: fredgroves on 19 July 2015, 11:23
I'm not sure a straight mirror of the phone screen is what you get ever?

From what I've seen the connected apps have a different screen layout on the car screen - big huge buttons for you to push to do stuff etc etc

I think its working like an auxiliary screen for the phone onto which the app projects a different UI.

If its just the "video in motion" thing you've got to overcome, I believe that's already possible to do in VCDS - although quite why you'd want to watch video while driving... unless you are a lorry driver of course.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: NeilH on 19 July 2015, 12:44
You're probably right. Things like Internet radio and some different traffic apps might be useful though...

This demo looks like an exact mirror of the screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J5KNaaVRoQ

Neil.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: fredgroves on 19 July 2015, 13:58
It is a mirror of the screen, but the phone itself has gone into Duplo mode if you notice...

There are 3 different types of technology apparently incorporated by VW in the MIB 2 - MirrorLink, Android Auto and Apple Car Play.

Each system has its own foibles and potential advantages.

For example, Android Auto will only work with some phones, Apple Car Play is only for Iphones and also doesn't yet support anything but a wired connection and so on.

I think the advance forward is great, but I think you are going to be quite disappointed with just how little progress they've actually made.

Give it another 5 years and the MIB 4 on the Golf Mk9...
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: NeilH on 19 July 2015, 15:13
I don't have a smartphone so I'm at a loss straight away. I'll be stuck with whatever my wife has on her Android phone. I was thinking of buying something like a personal WiFi spot, 4G from EE to use with the 'guide and inform' side of things as that might be more useful to me.

In 5 years they'll probably have the reversing camera on something like Google glasses.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: fredgroves on 19 July 2015, 15:26
I have a sneaking suspicion that the VW provided services under "guide and inform" will not be terribly good compared to those available as either a mobile phone app or from a website.

They will be paying a third party for the data and if the list of things I have available on my navpro (MIB 1) is anything to go by then its either a case of the data gathering company being sh!t or not being paid enough for stuff to appear.

I was looking for a MaccyDee's the other day, it gave me a list of them from 35 miles outwards from my current position. A quick google told me that there was one 4 miles from me and when I got there it wasn't even a new one - I remembered it from years ago from the last time I was down that way.
Title: Re: Car-Play App-Connect (after BW22)
Post by: NeilH on 19 July 2015, 19:04
Can but hope it's up to scratch.

I won't be disappointed either way. I'm about to get a MK7 GTi, can't be disappointed about that, I miss my MK5 and I've had a 1.6 Fiesta for the last 4 years (brill drive for the price but a long way off a Golf).

Neil.