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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: king monkey on 02 June 2015, 11:17
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My red Gti with PP stolen in the early hours.
Reg MK14HAE
Seems like the gti and R are high on scumbags wish list. Gutted
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Very sorry to hear this.What were the circumstances?
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Broke in to the house through the back door. Went through all the drawers downstairs until they found the keys. We didn't know anything until morning which is a good thing as our 4 month old son was asleep upstairs.
We're in Bury, Lancashire should anyone want to be vigilant for their cars.
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I'm in Bury also.Im worried now.
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Was yours the one knocking about around Greenmount area of Bury?
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Ugh! My Mk6 went in south Manchester in February this year in similar circumstances so I know how you feel. GMP were great, eventually found it on false plates and are currently trying to prosecute several people so I hope you get the same response from them.
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Greenmount. That was me.
I've had 4 gti with no problems at all over the years. Think that'll be me done now.
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I'm really gutted for you.Over the years I've admired your previous GtI's from afar as I'm always passing your house.I live a cockstride away from you.
At least you were unaware if they are prepared to enter a house anything could have happened.
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As everyone here will be thinking and as already said, at least they didn't disturb you (more luck than anything I guess).
You're bound to feel really down for a long time and it goes without saying family safety comes first, but hopefully you'll bounce back and sooner or later you'll have another nice GTI (or closely related model) again.
Fingers crossed they catch the low lifes and they get more than a rap across the knuckles.
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Thanks AndyG. Always tried to keep them looking good.
As you said, just glad that nobody was hurt. That's the main thing.
GMP told me that Gti and R are high on their stolen list because they're too fast to catch!
Gitsy, good to hear about the service from GMP. All fingerprints done already. Can't fault them. Fingers crossed they find mine too.
Exonian, you are right. It's only a piece of metal. Family always comes first. Thing is, I always wanted a gti from being a kid and when you get one...
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Really sorry to hear :sad: Glad you and the family were undisturbed at least.
Understandably I'm sure it will make you think twice about getting another nice car for some time to come, but they are just low life scum, and why should you change the way you live and not be allowed to enjoy the things that you've worked long and hard for. Not to mention the hassle of sorting the theft out.
I hope in in time you will be back in a GTI or similar and that the scum get their comeuppance.
Does make you think about getting an immobiliser (as per Asker's recommendation), but for this type of theft where they are stealing directly from the home, I'm not sure if it's worse to be potentially faced with an angry theif denied his/her prize, when the car won't start :undecided:
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I think, to be honest Frau B, you just want the pond life away and out of your face as quickly as possible and if that means a lump of mass produced metal and plastic goes with them it's better than the possible alternatives, especially if you have family or friends with you.
Mind you, if there was an immobiliser that let them drive a couple miles then killed the engine, locked them in and dialled 999 then maybe...
(So long as the engine didn't cut off in the outside lane of a busy motorway in daylight endangering anyone else)
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I think, to be honest Frau B, you just want the pond life away and out of your face as quickly as possible and if that means a lump of mass produced metal and plastic goes with them it's better than the possible alternatives, especially if you have family or friends with you.
I totally see your point Exonian and know there are two schools of thought here.
Give them what they want without them coming upstairs or make things tough for them.
I just think if you make things easy for them, they will wait until you replace it with something shiny and new and come back for the new car. Its a bit like why it was the same kids picked on at school. Stand up for yourself and those folk will have second thoughts on coming back for more.
EDIT: What's it come to when criminals are actually marking outside the house whether you are an easy / hard / good target.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/570866/Burglar-codes-signs-walls-of-your-home-revealed
Bloody shocking.
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king monkey: So sorry to hear of your loss. Sickening. Such bad luck. Lots of cars being stolen. Performance Golfs are pretty low on the list. BMWs, Mercs and Range Rovers are much more popular though this is of little conciliation for you now.
Car might still be recovered without damage. Let's hope so.
Don't let this put you off getting another nice car. Don't let the effing buggers win.
Houses in this country are not secure enough with very flimsy doors which are so easily kicked in. It seems one has to live in a flipping safe.
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Thanks everyone. This has been a great forum over the years and offered lots of advice, even though I normally just read rather than post!
When I thinking a bit more logically, I'll probably think about another car if possible. Typical that it's the one and only time I didn't get gap insurance.
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Really sorry op regarding the car. These stories really sicken me.
Did they break in by busting the lock on the back door?
A few of the guys on the M135i forum recommend having common euro door locks replaced with ABS snap resistant locks?
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=73996
http://www.abs-secure.co.uk/#_
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Broke the lock on a patio door window. Sawed the screws after opening it up. Went all through the downstairs of the house to find the keys. They had my wives Polo keys but chose not to take the car!
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I think, to be honest Frau B, you just want the pond life away and out of your face as quickly as possible and if that means a lump of mass produced metal and plastic goes with them it's better than the possible alternatives, especially if you have family or friends with you.
I totally see your point Exonian and know there are two schools of thought here.
Give them what they want without them coming upstairs or make things tough for them.
I just think if you make things easy for them, they will wait until you replace it with something shiny and new and come back for the new car. Its a bit like why it was the same kids picked on at school. Stand up for yourself and those folk will have second thoughts on coming back for more.
EDIT: What's it come to when criminals are actually marking outside the house whether you are an easy / hard / good target.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/570866/Burglar-codes-signs-walls-of-your-home-revealed
Bloody shocking.
That is shocking :shocked: I'll be checking my walls on a regular basis from now on.
It's a tough one the decision to go immobiliser or not. Can see both sides :undecided: It's only a car so part of me thinks just let the thieves have it and be gone, but at the same time I know exactly where Steven is coming from. I think where the immobiliser really scores is theft (attempted) away from the home, i.e, car parks, workplace etc.
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An immobiliser that after 200 yards reduces the car down to 0 MPH, keeps the doors locked and sounds an alarm.
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An immobiliser that after 200 yards reduces the car down to 0 MPH, keeps the doors locked and sounds an alarm.
Perfect! I'd buy one of them in a heartbeat :evil:
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After mine went I was eyeing up something like this (https://scorpiontrack.com/home/cat5) for when my Mk7 (eventually) turns up. I'd got a bit more complacent since, wouldn't necessarily want the car back and don't think this comes anywhere near paying for itself insurance-wise but I would love the bar stewards to get caught if they did it again.
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Clifford Blackjax - been around for years. Doesn't look them inside though :evil:
Also not sure what you are then supposed to do. Calmly go and collect your car and put it back on your drive?!
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Clifford Blackjax thanks for this info.Ive just been speaking to a registered installer for this £249 fitted.Im going to go for this.
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Clifford Blackjax - been around for years. Doesn't look them inside though :evil:
Also not sure what you are then supposed to do. Calmly go and collect your car and put it back on your drive?!
The Police come along, corner the scroats, take them down a nearby alley and beat the f**k out of them........oh no, forgot, that's not allowed now :rolleyes:
Thanks for the immobiliser info, I too will look at this in detail, along with Asker's recommended one.
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To prevent keys being stolen from one's home which seems the rigour with most of these thefts, secure your home. Security windows with bars on the downstairs ones, German Titan Steel Doors (£3000 a pop) with 21 bolts, any glass doors (bad idea) with Security Glass and decent bolts, etc .... Make it difficult, nay 'practically' impossible for them to break-in. Install a good Burglar Alarm, CCTV, etc. In this day and age one can't be careful or secure enough.
Most houses in the UK have terrible security and unfortunately we no longer live in a safe country with low levels of crime, whatever the Govt/Police Statistics spew out.
Sad and worrying state of affairs.
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To prevent keys being stolen from one's home which seems the rigour with most of these thefts, secure your home. Security windows with bars on the downstairs ones, German Titan Steel Doors (£3000 a pop) with 21 bolts, any glass doors (bad idea) with Security Glass and decent bolts, etc .... Make it difficult, nay 'practically' impossible for them to break-in. Install a good Burglar Alarm, CCTV, etc. In this day and age one can't be careful or secure enough.
Most houses in the UK have terrible security and unfortunately we no longer live in a safe country with low levels of crime, whatever the Govt/Police Statistics spew out.
Sad and worrying state of affairs.
A certain level of security is common sense, but I for one do not intend to turn my home into an impenetrable fortress all because some evil-doer fancies making off with my car. You have to to be keep these things in perspective and excercise a certain amount of rationality. There is such a thing as overkill.
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And then they will just wait for you to step out the door in the morning or arrive on back home at night and wave a knife or baseball bat in your face...
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To prevent keys being stolen from one's home which seems the rigour with most of these thefts, secure your home. Security windows with bars on the downstairs ones, German Titan Steel Doors (£3000 a pop) with 21 bolts, any glass doors (bad idea) with Security Glass and decent bolts, etc .... Make it difficult, nay 'practically' impossible for them to break-in. Install a good Burglar Alarm, CCTV, etc. In this day and age one can't be careful or secure enough.
Most houses in the UK have terrible security and unfortunately we no longer live in a safe country with low levels of crime, whatever the Govt/Police Statistics spew out.
Sad and worrying state of affairs.
A certain level of security is common sense, but I for one do not intend to turn my home into an impenetrable fortress all because some evil-doer fancies making off with my car. You have to to be keep these things in perspective and excercise a certain amount of rationality. There is such a thing as overkill.
Having excellent security IS keeping things in perspective. Overkill for you maybe, but not enough for them to pillage your home.
Your lapse is their gain.
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At the end of the day you shouldn't have to think of all this extra security. We all work hard and save for these great cars we are/were fortunate enough to own. The problem is with other people's actions, not ours. Simple minded I know. If someone wants your car, they'll take it. Look at some of the scary topics on the R Forum. Mind you, all the topics on there are a little scary if you ask me!
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Look at some of the scary topics on the R Forum. Mind you, all the topics on there are a little scary if you ask me!
Then I strongly suggest you stop reading that forum as you delicate nature might be unable to cope.
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Having excellent security IS keeping things in perspective. Overkill for you maybe, but not enough for them to pillage your home.
Your lapse is their gain.
Perhaps you have more to lose than I do? Location undoubtedly plays it's part too.
We have been subject to past burglary of our home several years ago, in fact whilst I was pregnant. Everybody deals with these things differently, I took it in my stride and did not stress out over it, even though I was perhaps in a (arguably) more vulnerable condition than usual.
We have taken reasonable (in our view) precautions, burglar alarms, security locks, window locks etc, but if this is not sufficient then so be it. We simply do not want to turn our house into a oversized steel safety deposit box! We will not let the ill intentions of thieving scumbags inhibit our freedom to significant effect.
And with respect to theft of the car/keys, as Fredgroves says, at some point you will need to leave your home. Wasn't it you that said, a few days ago, it was not good to cocoon oneself away.
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Look at some of the scary topics on the R Forum. Mind you, all the topics on there are a little scary if you ask me!
Then I strongly suggest you stop reading that forum as you delicate nature might be unable to cope.
I am a little delicate! Ha ha!
In all seriousness, I hope that nobody experiences anything like I have, or others have who simply want a nice car. The reports of people being followed home etc have been worrying. Strange thing is I was only reading some of the R Forum stuff before mine went last night.
Thanks for all the nice comments everyone. Hopefully the car will turn up at some point.
GMP said that a tracker is essential really for our cars. Immobilisers look good too.
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Do you really want the car to turn up KM? You don't know what they have been doing in it. I'd personally not want to see it again.
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At the end of the day you shouldn't have to think of all this extra security. We all work hard and save for these great cars we are/were fortunate enough to own. The problem is with other people's actions, not ours. Simple minded I know. If someone wants your car, they'll take it.
Exactly.
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Don't really want the car but financially better off if it turns up?
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Do you really want the car to turn up KM? You don't know what they have been doing in it. I'd personally not want to see it again.
Personally I wouldn't ever want a stolen car back unless it was more than just car to you (I.e been in the family for years). The thought of some lowlife knicking your pride and joy and joyriding in it even if there was no damage would mean it would never feel the same to me.
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Having excellent security IS keeping things in perspective. Overkill for you maybe, but not enough for them to pillage your home.
Your lapse is their gain.
Perhaps you have more to lose than I do? Location undoubtedly plays it's part too.
We have been subject to past burglary of our home several years ago, in fact whilst I was pregnant. Everybody deals with these things differently, I took it in my stride and did not stress out over it, even though I was perhaps in a (arguably) more vulnerable condition than usual.
We have taken reasonable (in our view) precautions, burglar alarms, security locks, window locks etc, but if this is not sufficient then so be it. We simply do not want to turn our house into a oversized steel safety deposit box! We will not let the ill intentions of thieving scumbags inhibit our freedom to significant effect.
And with respect to theft of the car/keys, as Fredgroves says, at some point you will need to leave your home. Wasn't it you that said, a few days ago, it was not good to cocoon oneself away.
You are taking what I said out of context. Anyway, you know what is best for your particular situation.
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No need to worry about leaving a safe house and being confronted by thugs. Just take your mobile safe specifically for car keys with you!!!
https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/vehicle-security-lock-box.html
(https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/images/descriptions/securitybox+holding.jpg)
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Do you really want the car to turn up KM? You don't know what they have been doing in it. I'd personally not want to see it again.
Personally I wouldn't ever want a stolen car back unless it was more than just car to you (I.e been in the family for years). The thought of some lowlife knicking your pride and joy and joyriding in it even if there was no damage would mean it would never feel the same to me.
Me neither.
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No need to worry about leaving a safe house and being confronted by thugs. Just take your mobile safe specifically for car keys with you!!!
https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/vehicle-security-lock-box.html
(https://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/images/descriptions/securitybox+holding.jpg)
Nice manbag :tongue:
That wouldn't stop them. Many years ago when I used to work in the wine trade as a wine merchant manager, it was sadly not uncommon for staff to be followed to the bank and attacked for the cash they were carrying. One of my female colleagues had her fingers sliced so she had to drop the security box and was then was punched in the face resulting in a smashed cheekbone. My branch was subject to a Police stakeout, after being watched by an armed gang. It was a tense evening I can tell you. If they want it, they'll get it.
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Whilst the story below won't make up for the loss of the car and the mental pain you might be feeling, thought this might cheer a few up (just to know that sometimes they do get their just rewards).
I live in a cul-de-sac (the the very end), and near the entrance a few houses down on the left is a neighbour who's not been here too long and has a really rather nice BMW M3 (a 2013 model). Anyway, about 4 months ago, he was woken by the sounds of rummaging coming from downstairs. He went down and saw two lads emptying all the downstairs drawers out looking for his keys. There were masked and armed with baseball bats. One of them saw him and immediately confronted him yelling at him to get down and to give them the 'effing keys.
What they didn't realise is that this particular house owner was not only a copper, but an ARV (armed response) copper, and a previous (to joining the police) a British Para. Needless to say within a few seconds the assailant was on the deck with his arm twisted back up and screaming in pain. His mate then decided to have a go, which is when he found out that my neighbour had 3 of his ARV mates staying, (they were going to a firearms course early the next morning together, so were staying locally in one house). All 3 came downstairs to see what was going on. The second lad on seeing this tried to leg it but was chased down before he could get over the garden wall, and dragged to the floor. The other two coppers made their way outside and surprised the driver of the "getaway" vehicle waiting outside and they grabbed him out of the car before he could start the engine.
With all 3 restrained, my neighbour must have called his buddies as within 5-10 minutes, there were blue lights all over the close as uniformed officers turned up in 3 patrol vehicles. All 3 men were arrested and ultimately sent down for between 3 and 6 years. It came to light they were a gang from Liverpool responsible it seems for a raft of thefts of high performance vehicles in the proceeding 6 months or so, and had beaten up two people in the course (one of which needed serious hospital treatment).
Needless to say, I thing those lowlife scroats didn't expect what they got, and will perhaps think twice in future of having another go (especially now they are all known to the police).
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Great story Sootchucker, I do love it when these scumbags get their just desserts.
As for the OP, sorry to hear about this. Don't let it put you off getting another GTI, otherwise these ar$eholes have won.
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Bet they are rueing the day they picked out that car to steal :grin: Nice story Sootchucker, with the right outcome.