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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: smorg00 on 01 June 2015, 22:19

Title: Advice re: repair
Post by: smorg00 on 01 June 2015, 22:19
So on Saturday afternoon, while stationary in traffic, I got rear ended by a woman in a Jag claiming that something flew in her face which caused her to not see me, hmm. My wife and 15 month old were in the car at the time but thankfully it was a relatively low speed impact so they were all ok.

Anyway, she accepted liability there and then and after close inspection there is a crack on my rear bumper to the left of where the number plate is, and also along the top of the boot lid you can see the area of impact as the paintwork has dozens of hair line cracks radiating outwards. My insurance company have an 'approved' repairer and when I spoke to them today found out it was a mobile outfit who come to your house or place of work and setup a canopy and carry out the work there and then.

I assumed it would have gone to a body shop so they could either repair or replace the rear bumper in a closed environment. Surely if they are to spray the area they are fixing, then outside in the wind isn't the best idea? Also, will they have genuine VW paint? I've not been in this position before so no idea what I can and can't ask for!

Cheers for any advice, as always.

Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: peterdoherty on 01 June 2015, 22:29
Id push them for a VW approved repairer - some insurers tell you you have to use their 'approved' repairers (i.e. the ones they have a deal with!!!) whereas you may have the choice to choose any repairer you wish (Depends on policy)
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: p3asa on 01 June 2015, 22:29
You are under no obligation to use your own insurance companies approved repairer.
If you don't though you may forego the use of a courtesy car however in saying that most body shops have courtesy cars so you should be fine getting one from them.

I personally wouldn't be wanting my car sprayed on my drive in the middle of summer with insects flying about when it could go inside and into a proper booth.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: p3asa on 01 June 2015, 22:32
Id push them for a VW approved repairer - some insurers tell you you have to use their 'approved' repairers (i.e. the ones they have a deal with!!!) whereas you may have the choice to choose any repairer you wish (Depends on policy)


It doesn't depend on your policy. You have the right to choose.


This seems to be the standard blurb on most insurance repairer sites: Bottom of this page
http://www.arnoldclark.com/accident-repairs/

"It has been agreed with the Office of Fair Trading and The British Board of Motor Insurers that as a Motor Vehicle insurance policy holder you have the right to choose where to have your vehicle repaired regardless of your insurance advice. You are not obliged to use their approved repairer and you can insist on having your vehicle repaired by an approved Accident Repair Centre of your choice."
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: Booth11 on 01 June 2015, 22:53
Regardless of your policy, you have a legal right to choose your own repairer though your insurance company may charge you a higher excess if you do.  I looked into this back in 2013 when someone went into the side of my car.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 June 2015, 06:08
The use of a "smart" repairer seems to indicate that they want to plasti-weld your bumper rather than replace it and do everything on the cheap. Get it to a VW approved repairer (one with a good reputation - they aren't always the best) who will appraise your damage without an ulterior motive to get it done as cheaply as possible.

As previously stated by more than a few people here, you can nominate your own repairer - the only downside to that is your insurer may impose a higher excess on you and not provide a courtesy car (making you rely on the repairer for one). The higher excess may not be a bother for you as the other side will pay you back eventually if they are not paying out up front.

Been through all this in Nov to Jan, after the GTD getting rear ended. Despite the other side's insurer (Aviva) accepting responsibility, my insurer (Esure) took it upon themselves to double my excess because I wasn't using their approved repairer. I then had to claim that hefty excess back from Aviva.

If you want someone to be between you and your insurer to push through a proper repair, go via VW Ensurance (they were a bit slow for my liking, but got there in the end). You may have joined them when you bought your car, if not you can join at a later date (now).
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: smorg00 on 02 June 2015, 15:50
Thanks, all.  Think I'll take it to an approved repairer and see what they say. I was talking to someone today who had a mobile smart repair and it took 3 times before he accepted the work as the paintwork was of low standard and didn't match 100% on previous attempts.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: itavaltalainen on 02 June 2015, 16:43
It has nothing to do with your own insurance - you are NOT claiming off them but the Jag's (even if it happens to be the same company), so you have any right to choose as well as a car while yours is being repaired.

Go to approved repaired and give them the ladies insurance details - let the body shop sort it out with insurance directly, though ask them to give you a call as you will be liable if they refuse to pay for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: Juicetin on 02 June 2015, 17:24
You have to claim off your own insurance first, and then your insurance company will try and recover their outlay from the other party if they have admitted liability.
If you take your car to a non-approved repairer then your insurance company may not pay whatever the difference is between their approved-repairer cost and your chosen garage. Check with them before getting the work done.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: itavaltalainen on 02 June 2015, 17:48
Is that really how it works in the UK???

What a daft system!!
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 June 2015, 18:16
If you want your vw paint warranty to remain intact then you need to take it to an approved vw repairer especially if your car is under manufacturer warranty still. Ignore your insurance company and tell them your car is under warranty still and you don't want any shoddy repairs. You can take it where you want but you may not get a courtesy car as has previously been said.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 June 2015, 18:26
Had a lengthy conversation with the manager of the Boldon car clinic when picking up my GTD after repairs. They're approved repairers for very few insurers, despite doing a cracking job on mine and having an excellent reputation. He said the main reason for that is that to gain insurer approval, most insurance companies want them contracted to a blanket price for repairs, and that was commonly in the region of £1300, and they couldn't refuse a job.

Smart repair to a door with a small dent? £1300 please Mr Aviva.

Car been hit by a bus, with a £3k bill for parts alone? I wish you were giving me more than £1300 for this Mrs Sheilas Wheels.

With blanket bills like that there will be winners and losers, but mainly losers - who's going to blow their excess (and NCD if it isn't protected) on a £400 repair to allow the body shop to score for £900? No wonder corners are commonly cut with insurance company approved repairers.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: p3asa on 02 June 2015, 19:39
You have to claim off your own insurance first, and then your insurance company will try and recover their outlay from the other party if they have admitted liability.


Not always the case. I had a works landrover reverse right up the side of my Mk6 while I was at my work. I didn't want my insurance company informed as I knew my policy would increase even although it was absolutely no fault of my own. So I just dealt with their insurance company throughout and it was totally painless.  Nobody questioned why my insurance company wasn't involved even although I did give the other party my insurance companies name.
Title: Re: Advice re: repair
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 June 2015, 07:21
You're supposed to inform your insurance company of any accident but that's just so they hike your premium up. I wonder how many people actually do tell them after even the smallest thing.