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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Jimmymature on 12 May 2015, 10:58

Title: New Gearbox!
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 May 2015, 10:58
Hi gents, I've had some issues over the last year with my DSG! Going from 2nd into 1st there's some hesitation. The DSG oil and filter have been changed and the software has been updated but still issues!

They say one more option is to manually reprogramme the gearbox and that might fix it.

They have said if that fails to fix it I will need a new gearbox!  How much could I be looking at?


Cheers,

Jim
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 May 2015, 12:00
VW just called and the new gearbox will be £4k.

Clearly I won't be paying that! What other options do I have gents?
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: h10_vwg on 12 May 2015, 12:55
i would say either get it fixed and keep it....or just sell the damn car mate!

I just spent 2k on my car, getting it fixed. My timeing chain lipped but im still motivated and want to keep mine.
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Snoopy on 12 May 2015, 13:19
Are they sure its the gearbox and not the mechatronics dsg control unit?

secondhand box from a breakers is an option as it would be a lot cheaper.

I would take it ti a VW specialist and see what they say the issue is rather than a main dealer if it was me.
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: RocketRossUK on 12 May 2015, 13:55
When I had problem with my MK5 GTI DSG I performed a DSG reset using VAG-Com and that helped loads.

Mine would Kangaroo when coming to a stop (2nd to 1st) kind off like yours, the reset really smoothed it out, but at that point I was already bored of DSG so i sold it as i couldnt be bothered payin £2000+ if it did go.

That is also one of the main reasons I went for manual in my MK6, Plus its lots more fun to drive  :drool:

Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: h10_vwg on 12 May 2015, 14:18
When I had problem with my MK5 GTI DSG I performed a DSG reset using VAG-Com and that helped loads.

Mine would Kangaroo when coming to a stop (2nd to 1st) kind off like yours, the reset really smoothed it out, but at that point I was already bored of DSG so i sold it as i couldnt be bothered payin £2000+ if it did go.

That is also one of the main reasons I went for manual in my MK6, Plus its lots more fun to drive  :drool:
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 May 2015, 15:22
Are they sure its the gearbox and not the mechatronics dsg control unit?

secondhand box from a breakers is an option as it would be a lot cheaper.

I would take it ti a VW specialist and see what they say the issue is rather than a main dealer if it was me.

Mate I don't think they know what it is! I think the easy answer is to get me to pay for a whole new gearbox!

I might take it to the local specialist but I bet that's I'll be another £100 where someone tells me they're still not sure what the problem is!!
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: RocketRossUK on 12 May 2015, 15:25
Are they sure its the gearbox and not the mechatronics dsg control unit?

secondhand box from a breakers is an option as it would be a lot cheaper.

I would take it ti a VW specialist and see what they say the issue is rather than a main dealer if it was me.

Mate I don't think they know what it is! I think the easy answer is to get me to pay for a whole new gearbox!

I might take it to the local specialist but I bet that's I'll be another £100 where someone tells me they're still not sure what the problem is!!

Do you or anyone in your area have VAG-COM? Best thing to do first in a DSG reset - super easy and free to do.
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 May 2015, 15:52
The DSG software was updated and not fixed. One theory I just had from the independent VW specialist is it could be the Duel Mass Flywheel, symptoms sound right as feels like 'slack' between first and second gear pull away and down shift!

Booked in with them tomorrow to get their view!
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: RocketRossUK on 12 May 2015, 20:58
The DSG software was updated and not fixed. One theory I just had from the independent VW specialist is it could be the Duel Mass Flywheel, symptoms sound right as feels like 'slack' between first and second gear pull away and down shift!

Booked in with them tomorrow to get their view!

Updating the software is not the same as resetting it. When you reset it you have to do multiple  sequences of driving, like 0-100mph, 70-0mph emerncy stop, cruise in one gear for 3 miles and loads more.

It reset's the link between DSG box and the ECU. And as far as ive been told, the DSG rest should be done after every software update anyways.

You seriously might want to try it before you buy any mechanical parts mate
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 May 2015, 14:20
The DSG software was updated and not fixed. One theory I just had from the independent VW specialist is it could be the Duel Mass Flywheel, symptoms sound right as feels like 'slack' between first and second gear pull away and down shift!

Booked in with them tomorrow to get their view!

Updating the software is not the same as resetting it. When you reset it you have to do multiple  sequences of driving, like 0-100mph, 70-0mph emerncy stop, cruise in one gear for 3 miles and loads more.

It reset's the link between DSG box and the ECU. And as far as ive been told, the DSG rest should be done after every software update anyways.

You seriously might want to try it before you buy any mechanical parts mate

Thanks mate, may just do that.

The independent VW specialist is 90% sure it's the duel mass flywheel!


I'll keep this thread updated in case anyone else gets a similar problem.


Jim
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Snoopy on 14 May 2015, 09:54
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/vw-dsg-direct-shift-gear-transmission-and-audi-stronic-faq/
Have a read through that it may help your diagnosis

Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Snooze on 15 May 2015, 18:46
Hey Jim. Weren't u getting a new car a while back?
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Jimmymature on 22 May 2015, 17:42
Hey Jim. Weren't u getting a new car a while back?

Hi mate, I was getting a new car but the plans fell through as bought a new house instead!!

Update on the gearbox

VW reset the DSG and carried out adaptive road test. Got the car back and the car is much better, they advise that 500 miles it will be perfect. Seems like it's all fixed! Lucky I didn't buy a new gearbox!!!


Thanks all,


Jim
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: SunnyGTI on 22 May 2015, 17:46
Ah nice!  :smiley:
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Poached on 23 May 2015, 16:08
Cool, if problems continue go back to an independent or auto gearbox specialist. When mine was replaced VW were somewhat vague about the full cause of the failure which of course made me suspicious...
Title: Re: New Gearbox!
Post by: Snooze on 25 May 2015, 10:26
Gd news!