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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Olifran on 22 April 2015, 22:35
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Apologies if it has been asked before and feel free to move to a different section.
Can a discover nav be removed and a discover pro be retro fitted to the mk7 GTI?
Thanks
Chris.
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It'll retro fit no problem but it won't work properly due to the component protection.
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Actually the component protection isn't the issue any more as people have got around this. The issue is that the nav data is tied to the chassis number and won't function properly after install.
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It being tied to the chassis is part of the component protection and it still doesn't work properly which is the point really isn't it?
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Would a dealer be able to sort it at a later date? Or is it factory only?
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Its all technically possible but it seems VW don't want to allow it to happen and its all down their code key system to enable it.
Maybe email them and ask them why they won't assist you to upgrade your car that you bought from them.
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It being tied to the chassis is part of the component protection and it still doesn't work properly which is the point really isn't it?
It's differentiating between the equipment being tied to the chassis (which is component protection) and the navigation data being tied to the chassis. Someone (In mainland europe) had a dealer overcome the component protection (which allowed the radio etc to work) but this still left the issue of the nav data not working.
That said, either way it's a non starter - wasn't picking fault with your answer, reading back it might have read that way! ;)
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I'm sure there was a thread on here somewhere were the wrong car was ordered i.e. it never had the Nav Pro and the dealer had to re order another car as it couldn't be retrofitted.
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It being tied to the chassis is part of the component protection and it still doesn't work properly which is the point really isn't it?
It's differentiating between the equipment being tied to the chassis (which is component protection) and the navigation data being tied to the chassis. Someone (In mainland europe) had a dealer overcome the component protection (which allowed the radio etc to work) but this still left the issue of the nav data not working.
That said, either way it's a non starter - wasn't picking fault with your answer, reading back it might have read that way! ;)
No probs at all. Same outcome really of it still wont work. :wink:
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I'm sure there was a thread on here somewhere were the wrong car was ordered i.e. it never had the Nav Pro and the dealer had to re order another car as it couldn't be retrofitted.
That was me, and it happened to another member. The dealer contacted the factory and was told can't be done. They had to order another car and provide me with a car until the replacement arrived.
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At least they are consistent in their refusal to accommodate retro fit!
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That's why all the people not ordering the big screen and thinking it can be retro fitted are in for a shock. It's nothing like previous vw's where you could just unplug the head unit and plug another one in with a bit of vcds coding. Might seem like it's expensive as an option but it's the first thing I ticked on mine.
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That's why all the people not ordering the big screen and thinking it can be retro fitted are in for a shock. It's nothing like previous vw's where you could just unplug the head unit and plug another one in with a bit of vcds coding. Might seem like it's expensive as an option but it's the first thing I ticked on mine.
Looking back, I wish I'd ticked the 'standard' nav (couldn't justify £1700 on the pro) - luckily VW have now brought out the retrofit nav, so that's where £600 of my money is going!
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I was looking at the Kufatec website earlier for something else, and saw this dongle
https://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/volkswagen/golf/golf-7-5q/module-navigation-discover-pro
Specific module to enable the navigation function of the "Discover Pro" if this is locked (for example after retrofit or update).
The navigation can be used without an official activation through our module and a trick.
No restriction on the navigation function if enabled.
I wonder if this is the missing link for unlocking maps that you are all looking for, combined with the component protection removal
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/611_0_zpsmaahgrlw.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/phope1/40254_zpsoqadrncj.jpg)
The German text in the 1st pic translates as
The navigation data in the Infotainment System are not valid. Please check data.
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Interesting but at the bottom:
Note •No navigation display in the combined instrument
They mean the MFD.
Which is weird, but a bit of a bummer.
Then again, I don't think any of the retro fit units display in the MFD either.
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I think the fact dealers are having to reorder cars when they forget to spec it in the first place speaks volumes.
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So what happens if it develops a fault and has to be replaced?
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I could be wrong here, but I was told it's not normally an issue (although far from easy) to replace like for like i.e. if you already have Pro Nav or Discover Navigation and it breaks, a new system can be fitted and Germany will allow the new serial number of the unit to be registered to the chassis, but if you don't have Nav (or are tying to uplift the spec - say by going to Pro nav from standard), then it won't be allowed.
At least that's what my dealer told me a while ago.
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Interesting but at the bottom:
Note •No navigation display in the combined instrument
They mean the MFD.
Which is weird, but a bit of a bummer.
Then again, I don't think any of the retro fit units display in the MFD either.
To be fair the information in the MFD isn't brilliant, and looking at the screen isn't much hassle.