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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 18:36

Title: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 18:36
Hey Guys,

I recently bought an X-Reg What I thought was a 2.0 GTi (as this is what it was advertised as and says on the logbook), however I have come to insure it and my insurer is telling me this model doesn't exist and it must be a 2.0L or 1.8L Turbo

The fact it says 2.0 on the back of the car and the engine tells me it's definatly not a 1.8 so that rules that out, and I have checked past MOT which Has no mention of it being a GTi.

How can I tell if it a GTi or not? Is the logs wrong or the Mot papers wrong?


also I have just found the original paperwork and although it's all in German, says it is the Dutch Version of the car and is a Hardline (GT)

Thanks for your help

Ross



Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: gm8 on 16 April 2015, 19:00
Only petrol gti models were 2.0 8v and 1.8t . Dont think there was a non gti 2.0
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 19:23
Thanks- that's what I thought! Time to try and get some money back from the insurers! They put my car down as a 1.8T
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: barrym381 on 16 April 2015, 19:27
Thanks- that's what I thought! Time to try and get some money back from the insurers! They put my car down as a 1.8T
take a picture of the engine and post it on here we might know what we are looking at  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 20:26
Thanks- that's what I thought! Time to try and get some money back from the insurers! They put my car down as a 1.8T
take a picture of the engine and post it on here we might know what we are looking at  :smiley:

Haven't had the chance to take the engine cover off- but here is a pic of the engine...and the car!

(http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq176/Boss_Oss_ss/IMG_1309_zpstkgggd9z.jpg) (http://s445.photobucket.com/user/Boss_Oss_ss/media/IMG_1309_zpstkgggd9z.jpg.html)
(http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq176/Boss_Oss_ss/IMG_1307_zpspej8iqbs.jpg) (http://s445.photobucket.com/user/Boss_Oss_ss/media/IMG_1307_zpspej8iqbs.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: gazareth on 16 April 2015, 20:44
1.8L turbo??? :huh: I think you need to ask for someone else next time you phone them up :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 20:47
1.8L turbo??? :huh: I think you need to ask for someone else next time you phone them up :rolleyes:

That's because that's what it says on their system!
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: gm8 on 16 April 2015, 20:50
hmmmm

The details on the MID are:

Vehicle Make/Model:   VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1800T (98ON) 5DGTI 150BHP

however :

Vehicle details
6 month rate £126.50 12 month rate £230.00 6 monthly by direct debit totalling £120.75 12 monthly by direct debit totalling £230.00 Monthly by direct debit totalling £241.50 (Monthly payment of approximately £20.13) Vehicle make VOLKSWAGEN Date of first registration 09 January 2001 Year of manufacture 2000 Cylinder capacity (cc) 1984cc CO₂Emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL Vehicle status Tax not due Vehicle colour BLACK Vehicle type approval Not available Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight Not available
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 20:55
do you think that's because it is the 'Dutch Model' that they don't have the information? What have I bought myself??   :grin:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Rhyso on 16 April 2015, 20:59
Sadly the runt of the litter  :whistle:

The 2.0 was a GTI in name only. In Europe they were never badged as GTI's. They were known as Highlines
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 21:05
Ahh ok that makes sense! Pretty decent runt compared to my old rover 25...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: barrym381 on 16 April 2015, 21:07
Ahh ok that makes sense! Pretty decent runt compared to my old rover 25...  :rolleyes:
my old skateboard from 1980 was better than a rover 25  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 21:18
Ahh ok that makes sense! Pretty decent runt compared to my old rover 25...  :rolleyes:
my old skateboard from 1980 was better than a rover 25  :grin: :grin:

Some of them arnt too bad... We have managed to get 190bhp out of one....
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: barrym381 on 16 April 2015, 21:20
Ahh ok that makes sense! Pretty decent runt compared to my old rover 25...  :rolleyes:
my old skateboard from 1980 was better than a rover 25  :grin: :grin:

Some of them arnt too bad... We have managed to get 190bhp out of one....
that gti will feel slow then  :smiley:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 16 April 2015, 21:28
Ahh ok that makes sense! Pretty decent runt compared to my old rover 25...  :rolleyes:
my old skateboard from 1980 was better than a rover 25  :grin: :grin:

Some of them arnt too bad... We have managed to get 190bhp out of one....
that gti will feel slow then  :smiley:
never said it was road legal... :whistle:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: barrym381 on 16 April 2015, 21:35
Ahh ok that makes sense! Pretty decent runt compared to my old rover 25...  :rolleyes:
my old skateboard from 1980 was better than a rover 25  :grin: :grin:

Some of them arnt too bad... We have managed to get 190bhp out of one....
that gti will feel slow then  :smiley:
never said it was road legal... :whistle:
:grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: itavaltalainen on 16 April 2015, 22:16
Tell them to check the DVLA database... who list engine as 1984cc.....  :whistle:


sadly they stuck "gti" on any mk4 as long as you paid 5p for badge
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Boss_oss_ss on 17 April 2015, 16:52
so the insurance company rang me today to tell me that I had said "yes" to the car being a 1.8T when I first ensured it on Friday (although I did say it was a 2.0) and are willing to change it for me- after all this they have told me that they will put it through as the closest car they have on the system (which is a golf gti 2.0..which was what I told them to begin with that "didn't exsist") but the insurance is more expensive than on the 1.8T even though its less powerful. I questioned it and they couldn't tell me why! time to look for a new insurer I think!!
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Waspy on 17 April 2015, 17:13
so the insurance company rang me today to tell me that I had said "yes" to the car being a 1.8T when I first ensured it on Friday (although I did say it was a 2.0) and are willing to change it for me- after all this they have told me that they will put it through as the closest car they have on the system (which is a golf gti 2.0..which was what I told them to begin with that "didn't exsist") but the insurance is more expensive than on the 1.8T even though its less powerful. I questioned it and they couldn't tell me why! time to look for a new insurer I think!!

Power does equate to higher premiums. Its about risk. For me, my 100bhp mk2 golf is just as expensive to insure as a 300bhp coupe.
Title: Re: Is it a GTI??
Post by: Wazzzer on 17 April 2015, 18:04
The 1.8 20v N/A was also badged as a GTI, a bit more well deserved too

I can say without question that engine is NOT a 1.8T, apart from the 2.0 badge giving it away it's also missing 12 valves and a blower :grin: