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Title: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Mr Savage on 11 March 2015, 21:33
Sure all of you guys have heard! Clarkson's been suspended. If you haven't already then I think we all owe it to him to sign his petition! He's always supported the VW community and loves the GTI :)

He's up to over 600,000 signatures so far in just 24 hours and even has the backing and support of David Cameron! Come on Clarkson!

Hope the admins don't mind me posting the link to the petition, if you do then just delete it;

https://www.change.org/p/bbc-reinstate-jeremy-clarkson
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Wayne on 11 March 2015, 23:42
In any other line of work, if you were to hit someone you would be sacked so why is this any different.

Top Gear has had it's day a long time ago, I cannot it see it ending well for him with all the previous troubles.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 12 March 2015, 00:14
Footballers get away with worse...

Anyway, they get rid of Clarkson, they have to get rid of the other two, as a new presenter wouldn't fit in with them. Which would probably be a good thing, as it might have a shot at being a car program again. Equally though the BBC will take a huge hit financially, because non car people currently watch it for the entertainment factor.

I don't really give a crap about the outcome tbh.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: dubber36 on 12 March 2015, 08:22
Since when have petitions made any difference to anything?
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Sam on 12 March 2015, 08:36
If only we could get 600,000 people signing a petition in as many days to get rid of Cameron, but I guess Top Gear effects us all far more than the government ever will  :angry:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Mr Savage on 12 March 2015, 10:26
Since when have petitions made any difference to anything?

Well if you look on the website theres quite a few success stories. Even if it doesn't make a difference atleast it shows what the people think.

As Stig says it's silly that they have suspended Clarkson before they even have any facts. They should atleast have finished the series.

Suspension should only be if someone is considered an immediete threat to people around them. Since James May stated that he was "blind drunk" and can't remember what happened I'm guessing Clarkson and the involved producer was also so it was merely a "drunken brawl" at best.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: JC on 12 March 2015, 10:34
so if it was you in a bar and someone punched you, you would be fine with us raising a petition to get the other bloke out of trouble.

No thought not.  :rolleyes:

Ever since the falklands / Argentina show all respect has been lost for that program and producers.

Get rid.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: bobbarley on 12 March 2015, 11:14
All I care about is my own entertainment, so from that point of view I would like to see Top Gear back.  There's really nothing else on the BBC worth paying the license for.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Sam on 12 March 2015, 11:22
All I care about is my own entertainment, so from that point of view I would like to see Top Gear back.  There's really nothing else on the BBC worth paying the license for.

Don't watch live TV then  :smiley:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Mr Savage on 12 March 2015, 12:15
so if it was you in a bar and someone punched you, you would be fine with us raising a petition to get the other bloke out of trouble.

No thought not.  :rolleyes:

Ever since the falklands / Argentina show all respect has been lost for that program and producers.

Get rid.

1) Still no facts to say he did even punch anybody.
2) Multiple people have denied that he ever punched anybody.
3) They were all drunk and so you have no idea on what the producer said to Clarkson or how he acted.
4) The producer looks fine, so if he did punch him it's not exactly life threatening or serious.
5) May say's its been blown out of proportion.

It's the most entertaining show the BBC has and Clarkson has a connection with his audience that noone else has.

Oh and yes if it was me i'd deal with it man to man with him behind closed doors instead of making millions of viewers suffer as a consequence.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 12 March 2015, 12:24
so if it was you in a bar and someone punched you, you would be fine with us raising a petition to get the other bloke out of trouble.

Nobody ever gets in trouble for punching someone in a bar. Well, not unless they really go to town on them, or its your boss.....
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: JC on 12 March 2015, 12:40
so if it was you in a bar and someone punched you, you would be fine with us raising a petition to get the other bloke out of trouble.

No thought not.  :rolleyes:

Ever since the falklands / Argentina show all respect has been lost for that program and producers.

Get rid.

1) Still no facts to say he did even punch anybody.
2) Multiple people have denied that he ever punched anybody.
3) They were all drunk and so you have no idea on what the producer said to Clarkson or how he acted.
4) The producer looks fine, so if he did punch him it's not exactly life threatening or serious.
5) May say's its been blown out of proportion.

It's the most entertaining show the BBC has and Clarkson has a connection with his audience that noone else has.

Oh and yes if it was me i'd deal with it man to man with him behind closed doors instead of making millions of viewers suffer as a consequence.


sorry, were you there so know all the statements YOU just made are true ?

think not  :rolleyes:

and what a crock of sh!te, he LOOKS fine, so that makes it all ok, could have been a stomach punch,

again, do YOU know he is ok cos he looks ok.

all hear say and as the BBC themselves stated in a new report, it must be serious for them to have suspended him so quickly

Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: JC on 12 March 2015, 12:40
so if it was you in a bar and someone punched you, you would be fine with us raising a petition to get the other bloke out of trouble.

Nobody ever gets in trouble for punching someone in a bar. Well, not unless they really go to town on them, or its your boss.....

Tell your a northerner - go live down south for a bit  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 12 March 2015, 13:16
so if it was you in a bar and someone punched you, you would be fine with us raising a petition to get the other bloke out of trouble.

Nobody ever gets in trouble for punching someone in a bar. Well, not unless they really go to town on them, or its your boss.....

Tell your a northerner - go live down south for a bit  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Maybe they should come live in the north for a bit  :grin:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: dTEA on 12 March 2015, 13:57
maybe you should both go at it...and see if the southerner in Chuff is stronger than his northern side  :grin:

On another note...its a publicity stunt...and I couldn't care less for the show.  Its no longer a car show...its cheap comedy...and often racist at that.

If mountain bikers could raise that kind of petition then they also might have a chance of having the footpaths open for riding...instead of the poxy 3000 it managed.  Maybe they should go round hitting all the landowners :laugh:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Mr Savage on 12 March 2015, 14:28
Chuff;

No I wasn't there but neither were you going on that logic. I'm just going by what the people who were there have said.

Noones saying it's right what he did. But it's a fact of life. Everyone does stupid things in the heat of the moment.

The fact that the incident happened 5 days ago and is only being addressed now pretty much indicates that it wasn't all that serious. The fact that everyone's alive and fine also indicates that it's nothing serious.

So why BBC have decided that the huge fan base of Top Gear should suffer because of a little petty squabble is ridiculous.

You might think Top Gear has had its day, it's not about cars any more ect ect, but don't you see that's why the show is so appealing to such a wide audience? You might not watch it but the millions of viewers will agree with me. Top Gear makes up a huge 19% of BBC TV's income!
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Rhyso on 12 March 2015, 14:54
I watches the new series of 5th Gear last night

In less than an hour I saw more cars and reviews than an entire season of Top Gear

Its had its day and needs reinventing
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 12 March 2015, 15:14
I watches the new series of 5th Gear last night

In less than an hour I saw more cars and reviews than an entire season of Top Gear

Its had its day and needs reinventing

You have just said why it doesnt need reinventing. There are other, better, shows if you want car reviews. 5th Gear is great if you want to find out which cars are good and which are not. Top Gear serves a different market now. It serves the casual market who just want to chill about and watch three tools tool around in funny or expensive cars. It is so popular because it isn't 5th Gear. Both have their place.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: JC on 12 March 2015, 16:38
maybe you should both go at it...and see if the southerner in Chuff is stronger than his northern side  :grin:

25 years. 2 marriages and far too many " incidents " in the south

7 months back north and normal service Resumed  :wink:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Rhyso on 12 March 2015, 19:37
I watches the new series of 5th Gear last night

In less than an hour I saw more cars and reviews than an entire season of Top Gear

Its had its day and needs reinventing

You have just said why it doesnt need reinventing. There are other, better, shows if you want car reviews. 5th Gear is great if you want to find out which cars are good and which are not. Top Gear serves a different market now. It serves the casual market who just want to chill about and watch three tools tool around in funny or expensive cars. It is so popular because it isn't 5th Gear. Both have their place.

Top Gear used to be the best motoring show.  its forgotten its roots

The first few seasons were entertaining but now its so predictable its become a snooze fest
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: bobbarley on 12 March 2015, 19:39
This series has been better than the last few.  I like their "tests", love their expeditions and also really like their homages to cars or manufacturers.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Adam on 12 March 2015, 19:54
All this is good publicity. Just saying....
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Len on 12 March 2015, 20:12
All three of the presenters contracts are up at the end of the month!
They dont give a flying f**k if the show gets aired.

Sky have been trying to entice Clarkson away for years!
I believe that is what will happen

Top Gear without Clarkson??? NAH!!!!
Think the other two will go with and start up a rival show which will have some car content!
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 13 March 2015, 10:16
A little bit of research and you'll find why the bbc have staged this mass distraction, and it isn't the first time. It's just an extention of the script.

Topgear is now stone dead, out of ideas. The only good parts are the editing and camera work on the supercar features. That's it.

Petitions pretty pathetic, over obsessive in my opinion considering the bbc is likely infiltrated with child abusers, much like the political system is. There is more evidence to support that than there is suggesting Clarkson punched anyone but of course Clarkson takes priority lol. Although people do still vote so i guess logic is notable in its absence. BBC brainwashing, who knows. It's not healthy that's for sure.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: VW BUSH on 13 March 2015, 18:20
He is a knob and I don't care if he is never on telly again.
Jody Kidd is much better value for money.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: barrym381 on 13 March 2015, 20:59
He is a knob and I don't care if he is never on telly again.
Jody Kidd is much better value for money.
cant see Clarkson giving a flying f**k  :grin: how much is he worth these days
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Pinky1959 on 14 March 2015, 16:39
I heard and understand  the tg crew had taken over a hotel  18 rooms  wherever they were filming and they had been busy all day and didn't finish till late and the hotel stopped doing meals earlier when they returned to the hotel they got given a plate of salad and it seems Clarkson and others  wanted a hot meal and then the fracas happened with the producer .
I don't like JG but I do think he has a point the hotel would be making a lot of money , how hard would it have been to have a chef on duty and make them a hot meal .  I would have been pissed off too if I had worked all day and got given a salad
I do like Top gear though .
Hope it gets sorted .
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Rhyso on 25 March 2015, 20:21
This ended well then  :whistle:

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: VW BUSH on 25 March 2015, 21:42
 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 25 March 2015, 22:19
Meh, I've discovered the walking dead... Who needs cars when you have thousands of Zombies?
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Sam on 26 March 2015, 10:53
Taken from twitter, a sad truth...

Poor JeremyClarkson. If only he'd abused a child instead of a producer then the BBC would've covered the whole thing up.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Jimble on 26 March 2015, 15:31
Clarkson should never have punched him but i find it really hard to believe that he did absolutely nothing to provoke JC? The statements are basically saying that he's a saint, people don't generally (not always of course) get punched for no reason. >:(
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: VW BUSH on 26 March 2015, 19:37
He owns the rights to the show so I have heard, Top gear on Sky one next year?
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Screech16v on 26 March 2015, 21:16
I Don't get it,drunken punch and he gets the sack? I gave my boss a sober knee to the balls once and it he was fine about it, well he did deserve it.   I don't care what the outcome is ,its a good opportunity for Clarkson to get into something different
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 27 March 2015, 11:03
Taken from twitter, a sad truth...

Poor JeremyClarkson. If only he'd abused a child instead of a producer then the BBC would've covered the whole thing up.

It is a sad truth isn't it. Plenty evidence to show the bbc's complicity in covering up abuse within their ranks, alot more than was actually released, but yet it takes something involving TG to get people's attention and sign some lame petition in their thousands. Threatening to stop paying the tv licience, it's comical. One can only imagine what kind of person actually wrote into complain to the bbc about it, probably the same people that phone up radio 2 and moan all day long. This country eh.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 27 March 2015, 11:49
The BBC abuse crap has been front page news for years now. Harsh to say only nobody gives a crap about that but does about Clarkson. You can't sign a petition to stop something which happened 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Rhyso on 27 March 2015, 13:33
Would there be a petition if Clarkson had hit a woman?
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: VW BUSH on 27 March 2015, 14:22
Would there be a petition if Clarkson had hit a woman?
Very good question.....

He should have gone when the Nigger word was used but this was swept under the carpet next to all the fingers of fudge and Jim'll fix it badges.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Rhyso on 27 March 2015, 14:37
Its one a colleague of my girlfriend asked

I like Clarkson and I used to enjoy Top Gear but I can't defend someone who hits another person especially as the topic appears to be rather trivial

I think the BBC got it right. They can't right the wrongs of the past but they need to ensure that their rules are enforced going forward

If it were you or I hitting a colleague it would be the same result so why should a celebrity be treated any differently??
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: dubber36 on 27 March 2015, 15:07

He should have gone when the Nigger word was used but this was swept under the carpet next to all the fingers of fudge and Jim'll fix it badges.

He didn't say "Nigger" tho'. He mumbled a noise that those of us of a certain age heard as "nigger" as that's how we knew the rhyme all those years ago.

Our kids say they caught a tiger by his toe. I dare say to them, Clarksons mumbled noise would have sounded like tiger.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 27 March 2015, 15:32
He didn't hit a woman though. And while perhaps it shouldn't be different, it is. If he hit a child it would be different still. You cant judge a situation by how a different scenario would be treated.

Non of it matters. I very much doubt this was the reason they got rid of him. It was just a good way of getting rid publicly. They have probably wanted him gone for a long time, and couldn't just say "we are not renewing his contract because he is a bit of a knob". This way they have a good excuse.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Rhyso on 27 March 2015, 17:54
He hit another human being.

Try telling a woman it's different  :whistle:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: VW BUSH on 27 March 2015, 18:04

He should have gone when the Nigger word was used but this was swept under the carpet next to all the fingers of fudge and Jim'll fix it badges.

He didn't say "Nigger" tho'. He mumbled a noise that those of us of a certain age heard as "nigger" as that's how we knew the rhyme all those years ago.

Our kids say they caught a tiger by his toe. I dare say to them, Clarksons mumbled noise would have sounded like tiger.
It was implied even as it was a mumbled  "igger" noise, otherwise he would have not said sorry and would of said Tiger clearly
Everyone over a certain age black or white knows the rhyme.
Anyway its neither here nor there, he got the sack for hitting someone just as I would, only right about now I would be worrying about my mortgage :grin:
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Waspy on 27 March 2015, 19:04
He hit another human being.

Try telling a woman it's different  :whistle:

I said that maybe it shouldn't be treated differently but in reality, it is different. Statistically, a male on female attack will warrent a much longer jail sentence. Female on male attacks rarely even hit court. So clearly the courts see it differently (even if the law doesn't). Just as an attack on a child (another human being) would be a harsher sentence still.
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: hardmonkeys on 28 March 2015, 07:36
He'll be back..on a different channel maybe, but he'll be back
Title: Re: Clarkson's Petition for Re-Instatement
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 28 March 2015, 11:41
The BBC abuse crap has been front page news for years now. Harsh to say only nobody gives a crap about that but does about Clarkson. You can't sign a petition to stop something which happened 30 years ago.

Assuming the abuse ended 30 years ago, which it didn't. It's still happening today. Old news takes the heat off todays abusers which will no doubt be outed to another generation who are similarly distracted by nonsensical news media.