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Title: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Jeffeatscheese on 28 February 2015, 09:38
Hi everyone

I would appreciate some of your advice please.

I am currently spec-ing up a GTD with the following:

3dr manual GTD
Pearl black
19" Santiago
Discover navigation (DNS not the pro)
Park assist
Rear view camera

Would anyone recommend the last 3 and is it worth it?

How long are you guys looking at a build at the moment?

Anyone getting good deals (car wow seems to be showing 10% off from dealers)? Looking to get on a PCP.

Thanks for your help!

Ben



Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: breezasib on 28 February 2015, 10:42

If it were me I would drop the sat nav. I use both Waze and TomTom on my phone and find them great.

I would add keyless and winter pack for the heated seats as both of these options are fantastic.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: fredgroves on 28 February 2015, 11:16
Standard Nav is ok (I have pro but would probably get the standard one if/when I do it again).

Parking and Rear view camera, good gimmick but I find the Mk7 really easy to park - you can see all the corners and the turning circle is absolutely superb.

Maybe if you are a nervous parker it makes sense... or maybe if you just like a gadget.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Bluefloyd on 28 February 2015, 11:25
Black looks the dogs dangly bits and very stealthy when clean but, unless you like cleaning your cars compulsively, it doesn't stay that way for long. I don't have sat and yes you can use your phone or whatever but I would pick it now if I had the chance again.

 I am used to driving very large vehicles so parking my golf is a pleasure for me so I only have parking sensors and can't really comment on the other parking aids. But the main option I wish I had specified is the sport and sound pack. I think the red calipers look great and contrast really well against a black car and the exhaust note is really throaty too.

 Unfortunately I didn't really understand what the sport and sound package was until coming on here and had already ordered my car so I didn't want to slow delivery down by changing my order
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Exonian on 28 February 2015, 11:39
The fact you've specced Santiagos makes park assist almost essential!
I have 19" (aftermarket wheels as the Santis are a pain to clean) and park assist is quite reassuring when you are faced with a tight gap and a high kerb.

Rear cam is useful, mostly in the dark where it's surprisingly good. However don't become overly reliant on it as it can make you a bit lazy when reversing so you tend to neglect side mirrors a bit and have to remind yourself.

Basic Nav is ok. Better value than Pro but still very expensive for what it is (over and above the standard head unit which has most of the features minus nav).
Would I spec it again? Not sure. I might slightly regret it if I didn't but good value it ain't!
I wonder what the price of a similar option is from rival manufacturers?

Sport and Sound pack as suggested is cheap and a bit of an essential in my book. The red calipers stand out well behind the wheels and add a splash of colour. I've not heard the exhaust in the flesh but it's bound to be better than the crappy soundaktor.

The Santis are pretty expensive and a pain to clean but they do look really good.

As for black... I hope you like cleaning!
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Jammy1 on 28 February 2015, 12:44
Personally I don't see the point of the camera AND park assist, I'd go for one or the other.  I really like park assist and works a treat.  It's really cheap (I wouldn't have bothered if it was over £300) and has the benfit of adding side sensors too, which can be handy it you've not noticed a low bollard etc.  People will always have the argument 'I can park myself', but that's missig the point.  I can cadence brake, but I'm glad I have ABS.  I can drive at a constant speed, but I'm glad I have cruise...the comparisons continue.

As with regats to the nav, I just don't get it.  Less functionality than my TomTom on my iPhone 6 and the traffic management is inferior.  Maybe if it was half the price and had decent traffic then I might consider it.

The winter pack is nice to have, but pricey for what it is.  I also had keyless as I wanted a start button, childish I know, but in a car with so much nice tech it seems a little archaic that you have a 'traditional' ignition key and barrel.

At the end of the day options add very little value come resale time, so plump for what you want and will find useful.

Just my two pence worth :)
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Exonian on 28 February 2015, 13:27
Trust me Jammy, the rear cam is very useful when you have a 30 foot shared drive that's unlit going into an unlit garage and you work shift work...

Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Jammy1 on 28 February 2015, 13:43
Trust me Jammy, the rear cam is very useful when you have a 30 foot shared drive that's unlit going into an unlit garage and you work shift work...

 :grin: true.  Not thought of that.  I had a cam on an IS300 H I tried.  I found it difficult to judge perspective etc, I guess you adapt to it though.  I was more thinkong of day to day bay and parallel parking.  We have a Cottage at Robin Hood's Bay and it has an incredibly tight unlit tiny car park.  It's in these situations I like the park assist into a bay.  It can see better in the dark in reverse than I can.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Exonian on 28 February 2015, 13:54
I've only ever used park assist to parallel park so far, I've not worked out how to bay park with it yet!
Must remember to try that.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: p3asa on 28 February 2015, 16:20
Just toggle the parking switch  :laugh:
It goes from parallel to bay.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Exonian on 28 February 2015, 16:34
Just toggle the parking switch  :laugh:
It goes from parallel to bay.
You're talking to the person who has two buttons to press every time I get into a 50mph motorway average speed camera section and still manages to balls up the cruise control!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 March 2015, 09:21
Rear camera and park assist are two different systems and both well worth the money. Something to bare in mind though if you are parallel parking the system looks at the placement of the car in front and behind and they are parked on the kerb then you will too. I must say though it's never done this with me. Having the parking aids has nothing to do with being rubbish at or nervous at parking it just assists you. If you are crap at parking now you'll still be crap even with a camera. Winter pack is well worth the money for just the heated seats.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: SRGTD on 01 March 2015, 12:15
Winter pack is well worth the money for just the heated seats.

Agree, if you're sticking with the standard cloth upholstery, in which case you get heated seats and heated washer jets for your £360. If you've gone for leather, all you get in the winter pack on a GTI or GTD is the heated washer jets (as heated seats are part of the leather option), and £250 for heated washer jets alone seems a bit steep!
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 March 2015, 14:04
It's hard to justify even from vw the pricing structure of the winter pack.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Jammy1 on 01 March 2015, 15:30
Rear camera and park assist are two different systems and both well worth the money. Something to bare in mind though if you are parallel parking the system looks at the placement of the car in front and behind and they are parked on the kerb then you will too. I must say though it's never done this with me. Having the parking aids has nothing to do with being rubbish at or nervous at parking it just assists you. If you are crap at parking now you'll still be crap even with a camera. Winter pack is well worth the money for just the heated seats.

My sincere apologies for the misinformation, I didn't mean to offend anyone or belittle the choice of options that people have chosen by saying that both park assist and the camera offer similar functionality I.e. to help you park. 

I shall delete my account to ensure that I don't make the same mistake again as I simply don't deserve to be posting on here.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Exonian on 01 March 2015, 20:25
Rear camera and park assist are two different systems and both well worth the money. Something to bare in mind though if you are parallel parking the system looks at the placement of the car in front and behind and they are parked on the kerb then you will too. I must say though it's never done this with me. Having the parking aids has nothing to do with being rubbish at or nervous at parking it just assists you. If you are crap at parking now you'll still be crap even with a camera. Winter pack is well worth the money for just the heated seats.

My sincere apologies for the misinformation, I didn't mean to offend anyone or belittle the choice of options that people have chosen by saying that both park assist and the camera offer similar functionality I.e. to help you park. 

I shall delete my account to ensure that I don't make the same mistake again as I simply don't deserve to be posting on here.
I sincerely hope that's cunningly hidden sarcasm/irony Jammy!

All opinions are welcome on here, and yours was hardly unique or not valid.
There are lots of options that I think are a waste of money and others disagree.
And vice versa.
Unlike on a mk6 the standard spec is pretty good and anything added is just a bonus depending on how deep someone's pockets are as just like you said, it's all money down the drain.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: KyleB on 02 March 2015, 10:41
Barring the park assist and the rear view camera the spec you mention sounds excellent (although there may be a slight bias).
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: jv on 02 March 2015, 13:49
I sincerely hope that's cunningly hidden sarcasm/irony Jammy!
Doesn't look like it!
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Exonian on 02 March 2015, 16:09
I sincerely hope that's cunningly hidden sarcasm/irony Jammy!
Doesn't look like it!

Come back Jammy1!
In my eyes you made a very valid point, and not just in this thread.
I can't park for sh!t as I have no coordination and so specified every possible bit of help I could get!
Park assist I've used 3 times in 16 months and the rear camera is useful for backing onto my (shared) drive and into a dark garage.
Both were cheap options and gimmicky so therefore less money down the drain than a Pro Nav and about the same money as keyless which my dad has as a standard feature on his hideous Nissan; and one which I think is a bit pointless (you don't have to use a key to get in but you have to find a button? You might as well find the key... it's that thing in your pocket next to your testicle right where you can find it easily {obviously with the fairer sex and their massively overstocked handbags it's a different matter} )
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 March 2015, 19:15
Rear camera and park assist are two different systems and both well worth the money. Something to bare in mind though if you are parallel parking the system looks at the placement of the car in front and behind and they are parked on the kerb then you will too. I must say though it's never done this with me. Having the parking aids has nothing to do with being rubbish at or nervous at parking it just assists you. If you are crap at parking now you'll still be crap even with a camera. Winter pack is well worth the money for just the heated seats.

My sincere apologies for the misinformation, I didn't mean to offend anyone or belittle the choice of options that people have chosen by saying that both park assist and the camera offer similar functionality I.e. to help you park. 

I shall delete my account to ensure that I don't make the same mistake again as I simply don't deserve to be posting on here.
You need to grow a thicker skin. I only said that the rear camera and park assist are two sperate things as some people confuse the functionality of them both.
Title: Re: Help with GTD spec
Post by: Ross Detours on 03 March 2015, 15:02
Sport & Sound pack is brilliant if you want the car to sound good and the red calipers look great on a dark car.